stormrider8 59 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have owned Collie cross's bedi cross's, whip/greys and also been out for years with friends with probably most types of lurcher! I was once like alot of the people on here, traditional type lurcher only!! and wouldn't entertain a bull cross. But i was given a pup and have never looked back, She has the nose and brain of the best of any dog, a natural to train and will fill bags with the best of them. What you see is what you get with a bull cross! no hidden traits you get with alot of others.. Quote Link to post
jeppi 49 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 my bull cross will beat any type of lurcher at getting the bigest vet bills you can get. how much was that then? Quote Link to post
thomps125 49 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 i bort my bull x because i think they look smart there a proud dogg and very hard from what i have seen but i havent had any other runnin dogs before so i dont actueal no if there any good Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 But i totally agree that the older more experienced bull cross owners use they for a hunting reason and the younger genoration use them for the "look" and "respect" thinking that they look hard with a dog that is way out of their control. Thats rubbish mate, plenty of young lads own them because they are the only dog that will do the job they need it for. They will do the same as a GreyXDeerhound, this breed will get rabbits,hares,foxes and deers nothing that a bull cross cant get Quote Link to post
roadrunner 0 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) all i can say is every one to there own kind of lurcher x ....depends on quarry & the way they would prefer to hunt i.e walking,driving,drawing ect.ect i do own a 3 yr old 3/4 grey ...1/4 bull bitch and she does me..not the strongest of dogs but she does what i need her to do and thats enough for me , Edited December 16, 2008 by roadrunner Quote Link to post
fireman 10,917 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Well here's my bit on the bull cross.With the way of the modern world some folks nowadays want a quick,no hassle,easy to aim dog and with the bull x this on the whole is what you get,lads can go out get a pup bring it up and when it's old enough go out point it at game and let go of the slip.This is fine but what ever happened to introducing the dog to the countryside first,field craft and both man and dog learning about both together?,this bit of lurcher work i feel(IMO) is lost to a lot of lads with the bull x.Romantic sounding it may be but true dog/man work takes time and understanding not pointing and fireing which if your true to what you think is what a lot of lads with these dogs do,just point them and fire.The bull x will take a lot of physical stick pain wise but with that comes worse injuries than with a dog that may go for a better not so painfull or damaging hold,it's down to what suits you but have seen collie crosses do all i have seen well bred bull x's do with big game and they looked a lot less smashed up afterwards.Not knocking any cross of any sort but rumour has it the acd x gh takes some beating .Each to there own and whatever you have if it aint broke and it works,don't fix it!. Quote Link to post
gazbull 4 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 a lot of people start off running rabbits , myself included , but soon discover other aspects of hunting with dogs , . teeth and handle bars , and that is where the bull x comes in , i still work a whippet cross for bushing and marking , but also work 2 bullx s . i do know some people who own them as c**k extensions but it has to be said they do get the job done with total comitment, which is sometime the difference between an empty bag and a big one , why not ! ! all the best B.W , gaz bulls mate . Quote Link to post
Guest MY LAW Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) just thought id post this topic, it seems to me that most people run bull x's all i want to know is why? i did used to like these dogs but now just seems like everyone has them and ive gone off them, what can you get from a bull x that uyou cant get from other dogs ? in my opinion there is nothing, what do you think karl karl as i keep bull crosses i may be biased but the answer is easy - preydrive- a good bull wont let you down - ive used them for lamping and drawing and if hes a good one he wont shirk the issue the same can be said for a lot of breeds ,especialy a good alsation x Edited December 16, 2008 by MY LAW Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 seems to me that a lot of people think that whatever there previous experience of a certain cross, its the same same for all that cross ?????? to me those people really do show there lack of experience and would benefit from getting out more to gain some experience rather than typing utter bollocks on here...... Quote Link to post
tod 3 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 COZ IT MAKES ME LUCK ARD INNIT lol , even harder with me big chunky ss collar on lol Quote Link to post
tod 3 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Whin has hit the nail on the head, I would never contemplate owning a bull cross Lurcher as they are all Braun, the only reason I can see that anyone would contemplate owning such a beast is perhaps they have failed to enter, a pastoral cross, it must also be observed that when you view these Bull crosses which I have at game-fairs, it would seem by the amount of wounds on their presence that they have in fact failed to undo the ways of their foe, as I’ve never seen a Collie-Cross Lurcher that takes fox on a regular basis to be marked up in this way. graham nicholson thats the biggest load of rubbish i have ever read on here and thats saying something Quote Link to post
lampinglurcher 36 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 is there anything a bullx will do in the uk that a deer/grey couldnt? no. they do it differently, a deer/grey will tend to have more finesse and brains about how it catches but at the same time does it very well. i dont think the chavs like this sort of breeding because they dont look huge and musclebound and dont get scarred up quick. out here both are used, the bullx comes into its own hunting bigger prey ie roos but then we have the roohounds which do it just as well but different. this said i would rather have a bullx holding a big pig on its own than a deer/grey simply because a good one just wont let go. horses for courses i personally would rather a staghound because there are better pig holding dogs as well. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 lets face it the bull croos is an animal to be admired in its own write ,but ive saw alot with bad feet because there heavy muscled not to obeident maybe owners again , some crocodiled jawed , my freinds have them as a hole ender and a bit sport saw some good ones , on foxes but take unessesary punish,ment sometimes , thta a clever dog wouldnt , all in all if i was agrouse keeper with all the digging i need i maybe have part bull in them but qaulity and ones that had been tested , i cant see the bull crosses all been tested and there a fad , my mate had bull crosses 18 years ago and pures 20 odd years ago ,so it aint a new breed , he has one little bitch handy animal but a bit exited ive saw some other good ones and i mean good, head in draw the varmint out as they say ,but to me a limited dog for some ,but one i would have bred to if i needed more head as he was a star ,nature great sheep broken ,soft as shit with anything and a lovly dog heel be nine a good dog ,to put a afst lurcher whos a bit nesh through , but not saw many like that im afraid Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Whin has hit the nail on the head, I would never contemplate owning a bull cross Lurcher as they are all Braun, the only reason I can see that anyone would contemplate owning such a beast is perhaps they have failed to enter, a pastoral cross, it must also be observed that when you view these Bull crosses which I have at game-fairs, it would seem by the amount of wounds on their presence that they have in fact failed to undo the ways of their foe, as I've never seen a Collie-Cross Lurcher that takes fox on a regular basis to be marked up in this way. graham nicholson thats the biggest load of rubbish i have ever read on here and thats saying something I agree. What a total load of utter nonsense. How many have you seen run Graham Nicholson? Some of these dogs run with more brain and finesse than alot of other dogs. Think you need to pop ya bubble mate!! OOpps gotta go think the beast might be killing the puppies out there!! Quote Link to post
gazbull 4 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 get a grip , get a bull cross . there not for everyone , but they do me , THANKS . B.W g,bs mate Quote Link to post
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