Borzoi lurchers

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I've met the family, there are 3 adults there, all dog owners.

So when you break it down like that, there arent really that many dogs.

There certainly well looked after dogs, with plenty of space, care ext

ill say this , at lest she keeped what was left of the last litter even if i think she , he shouldnt be breeding.

 

I'm confused now, I thought it was sighthoundlovers dad posting in this thread

last time she made a great deal about being a woman maybe she's a he this time, only she or he knows

 

 

Still, back to borzois, I've noticed that most of the russian coursing sites

that have borzois, normally have what appear to be either greyhound or

saluki crosses taking home most of the coursing prizes, so they seem to

be better outcrossed.

Don't think their x's bred just not bred like show dogs just worker to worker and you have to remember that most coursing dogs over there came from the same stock to start with, and spread to the different countries.

[Guest Tonedog]

Im sure there are loads of people on here who have one lurcher kenneled alone.

Hey, my dog sleeps outside alone.

The point is this dog is outside alone while 11 dogs are inside having a ball with the owner. That's the cruel and unusual part, not the fact the dogs outside, more the fact the others are inside while he isn't.

Dogs get jelous and notice others getting preferential treatment.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was noticing preferential treatment which got him narked up in the first place.

To a dog the best way to climb the social ladder is kicking arse.

It's not like the dog is putting 2 and 2 together and knowing it's because he's aggressive that he has to stay outside, he'd stop immediately if he did.

You could train him to stop being aggressive. Bring him inside on a lead and as soon as he growls drag him straight back out and leave him there for 5 minutes, then try again and again. Not ever yelling or doing anything.

Then, after a while, he would start to realise that it's the aggression that gets him put outside.

You'd have to be very precise and consistent with when he gets tossed out though, so he learns getting angry with the other dogs gets him no where.

 

I'd be really trying everything to fix the problem if I was you. Sure it's practical for you to just keep him outside but you have to understand he'd feel like a lone pariah and it's just going to make him more aggressive like a wild animal.

[socks 32,253]

Still, back to borzois, I've noticed that most of the russian coursing sites

that have borzois, normally have what appear to be either greyhound or

saluki crosses taking home most of the coursing prizes, so they seem to

be better outcrossed.

 

 

must be an echo in here i am sure somebody has allready said that

[collie/grey 238]

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Im sure there are loads of people on here who have one lurcher kenneled alone.

Hey, my dog sleeps outside alone.

The point is this dog is outside alone while 11 dogs are inside having a ball with the owner. That's the cruel and unusual part, not the fact the dogs outside, more the fact the others are inside while he isn't.

Dogs get jelous and notice others getting preferential treatment.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was noticing preferential treatment which got him narked up in the first place.

To a dog the best way to climb the social ladder is kicking arse.

It's not like the dog is putting 2 and 2 together and knowing it's because he's aggressive that he has to stay outside, he'd stop immediately if he did.

You could train him to stop being aggressive. Bring him inside on a lead and as soon as he growls drag him straight back out and leave him there for 5 minutes, then try again and again. Not ever yelling or doing anything.

Then, after a while, he would start to realise that it's the aggression that gets him put outside.

You'd have to be very precise and consistent with when he gets tossed out though, so he learns getting angry with the other dogs gets him no where.

 

I'd be really trying everything to fix the problem if I was you. Sure it's practical for you to just keep him outside but you have to understand he'd feel like a lone pariah and it's just going to make him more aggressive like a wild animal.

good post. also being separated from the rest of the pack he will feel on the out side of the pack, and will try harder to show his dominance and climb the ladder.

[collie/grey 238]

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its very good that you care what happens to your pups after you sell them but why are you breeding so many litters a year ? didn't you have one or two pups returned out of your last litter? If you bred lese you could be more picky about the future owners of your pups.

 

so how many salukis have you had? As you seem to no so much about them.

 

Did i say i know much about them socks? No. I know that salukis are one of the most untrainable sighthounds, but one of the most beautiful.

So how do you know this? from books ? You want to get out and see some real working ones, not the show ones that are never left of their leads.

[collie/grey 238]

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I know that salukis are one of the most untrainable because a couple of my friends have them and once off of the lead, they are very difficult to get back. Im not saying all salukis are like it though. They are good at their job. But i was talking about salukis not crosses. Jmo.

So was i , I've seen collie x's that are hard to get back but i wouldn't say there all like that just because the owners don't know how to train them or maybe have none working lines.

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I know that salukis are one of the most untrainable because a couple of my friends have them and once off of the lead, they are very difficult to get back. Im not saying all salukis are like it though. They are good at their job. But i was talking about salukis not crosses. Jmo.

So was i , I've seen collie x's that are hard to get back but i wouldn't say there all like that just because the owners don't know how to train them or maybe have none working lines.

 

 

WELL SAID M..TWO LITTERS A YEAR OUT OF UNTESTED UNTRIED UNPROVEN PARENTS IS FAR TOO MANY IMHO ...IM SORRY BUT WORK IS WORK ..I USE MY 2 DOGS ON ALL SPECTRUMS OF QUARRY AND MY FIVE YEAR OLD HAS HAD SOME RUNNING IN HIM ESPESH THE LAST 2 SEASONS..SO I FIND IT HARD TO BELEIVE THAT THE PUPS ARE OUT OF DOGS REALLY TESTED...

[sandymere 8,263]

the russian coursing hounds are very different from english show dogs i would suggest that using the latter for lurcher breeding would be like using a show greyhound for racing, wouldn't be my choice but each to their own.

 

there was some research done that showed that kennelled dogs have less health problems than those kept in the house.

[Guest Cal]

Over seventeen hundred registered users on this site and I doubt more than fifty post regurarly, you ask yourself why? Just read through the top threads and you'll see why. I.E. this one, an enquiry about borzoi lurchers and next thing the persons kenneling arrangements, type of dogs, amount of dogs, amount of work, amount of litters, amount of pups, what gender they are, etc, etc. Its like the Spanish inquisition.

[sandymere 8,263]

Totally agree with you there Cal,but its always the same ones doing the nit picking. :realmad:

 

well said both so now......

 

the russian coursing hounds are very different from english show dogs i would suggest that using the latter for lurcher breeding would be like using a show greyhound for racing, wouldn't be my choice but each to their own.

me.

 

any thoughts about running dogs?

[collie/grey 238]

I know that salukis are one of the most untrainable because a couple of my friends have them and once off of the lead, they are very difficult to get back. Im not saying all salukis are like it though. They are good at their job. But i was talking about salukis not crosses. Jmo.

So was i , I've seen collie x's that are hard to get back but i wouldn't say there all like that just because the owners don't know how to train them or maybe have none working lines.

 

 

WELL SAID M..TWO LITTERS A YEAR OUT OF UNTESTED UNTRIED UNPROVEN PARENTS IS FAR TOO MANY IMHO ...IM SORRY BUT WORK IS WORK ..I USE MY 2 DOGS ON ALL SPECTRUMS OF QUARRY AND MY FIVE YEAR OLD HAS HAD SOME RUNNING IN HIM ESPESH THE LAST 2 SEASONS..SO I FIND IT HARD TO BELEIVE THAT THE PUPS ARE OUT OF DOGS REALLY TESTED...

 

Is that so? So why have most of my pups gone to working homes and owners are pleased with them? Forget about even posting if you are going to have a dig at me. I post about borzoi lurchers and all i get is a pile of s##t thrown at me. My dogs, my choice what i do with them. If you lot don't like it tough luck. It seems that most people just come on here to have ago at innocent people. I suppose everyone else's dogs are perfect and everyone else only has a maximum of 2 working dogs.

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PW , As for my post on some one IMO breeding to much, which is just IMO, And after seeing what happens to pups that end up with the wrong owners( they looked like the living dead) , i would rather say what i have, than here about anymore like the ones that were of my dog which i let a friend put to their bitch, by the way i took the six month old pups of the person who had them, I think collie/grey has been lucky so far that shes has got the pups back that have end up with the wrong owners.

they had two pups of my mate