Hunting on

[Daveo 61]

I have bought a new dog to replace my bedlington that i lost a the other week.

12 month old first X wheaton grey.

I gave him a week to get use to me and to asses his training, no problems with stock and his recall seems spot on.

So I tried him on the lamp last night,

First rabbit about yard slip didnt think he would see it but he pulled at it, Fantastic course then bunny made it to a wall and jumped it so did the dog then nothing he just disappeared and hunted on and on and on,

Deaf to all commands. finally I saw him belting down the field putting all other rabbits to ground then he came back.

Thought id give him the benefit of doubt might just have been excitment but the next slip he did exactly the samething but this time for much longer so I finally got him back packed up and went home.

His recall is spot on unless he is chasing somthing perhaps its the terrier in him??

Any ideas how i can stop this?

[Daveo 61]

back to basics for retrieving with the dummy i would say mate

 

Right And how does that stop him hunting on?

He not not caught owt yet so retrieving is the least of my worries.

Thanks anyway mate.

[undisputed 1,664]

Try and give him easy slips mate till he's used to catching and bringing back to you. Long slips at this stage will not help,...just persevere eventually the penny will drop.

Edited December 9, 2008 by undisputed

[leegreen 2,221]

The moon has a lot to do with it. If it can't see well it wouldn't hunt on as much, also how much day time hunting has it done?

Mine used to hunt on a bit so I stopped taking it out in the day time untill it was coming back as soon as the lamp went off.

Remember the dog is twelve months old so it may have learnt a few bad habits they will take time to correct and don't chastise the dog untill it knows it is doing wrong and it will only know this if it has learnt what is right, so plenty of praise when it get it right.

[wild rover 548]

I have bought a new dog to replace my bedlington that i lost a the other week.

12 month old first X wheaton grey.

I gave him a week to get use to me and to asses his training, no problems with stock and his recall seems spot on.

So I tried him on the lamp last night,

First rabbit about yard slip didnt think he would see it but he pulled at it, Fantastic course then bunny made it to a wall and jumped it so did the dog then nothing he just disappeared and hunted on and on and on,

Deaf to all commands. finally I saw him belting down the field putting all other rabbits to ground then he came back.

Thought id give him the benefit of doubt might just have been excitment but the next slip he did exactly the samething but this time for much longer so I finally got him back packed up and went home.

His recall is spot on unless he is chasing somthing perhaps its the terrier in him??

Any ideas how i can stop this?

 

Go to search, type in training a lamping pup, try some of the training in there.

[whin 463]

give it the shock collar lol hate a dog hunting up ,but its the risk you take if you hunt them up during the day or not trained them up my colli line are b*****ds for hunting up when young unless you dont let them hunt up full stop , i used to hunt roe in daylite not giving to hoots and anything else thtas was game but if you took them to heavy infested land it took them a few runs to settle down , but as they get to there third season they realise its no big deal a couple of rabbits, take him to a place were you only get the odd run and slip him close then heel him up ,

[Lennard 10]

You need the easiest catchable rabbits. Do what you have to to make a sure catch. When the dog does it you can be happy and cheery and after some praise you can leash it while keeping the fun kind of. Make it nicer than hunting up. Do not unleash the dog where it can hunt up, free playing and such should be in places where there is no game. And do a lot of joyfull recalls with you running away and hiding and such. Make it have look for you. It comes back easier when more mature then. Give the dog some exercise before you are hunting training so the edge is off.

 

oh yeah: "patience...Luke...patience" 12 months and 1 week are not very long.

 

L

Edited December 9, 2008 by Lennard

[robbie4444 5]

shock collar

[Lennard 10]

Yeah a shock collar. It probably works but you have to like it too. If you need a more machinal dog that does things out of fear for punishment immediately. I can see it being handy if the dog HAS to listen. But dogs I have seen that were trained with such a device (ok not many) are too nervous and submissive for my taste. But maybe they needed it?

 

L

[Chid 6,625]

shock collar

 

 

in my eyes to many people are using these...... soon as the training of a dog goes a bit wrong its lets shock the b*****d, whats happened to ironing a dogs faults out the proper way with more training??????

Edited December 10, 2008 by chid21

[victor 10]

going to have to say try and get as close to the rabbits aspossibal. so he gets the idea he has to come back. before you know it he will ocme back second to none good luck.

[bird 10,013]

shock collar

 

 

in my eyes to many people are using these...... soon as the training of a dog goes a bit wrong its lets shock the b*****d, whats happened to ironing a dogs faults out the proper way with more training??????

 

 

True, this is the prob when you some times get a older pup [12 months] is still a pup. that you buy ??

just keep on with the recall [ day+night]. Ive had a few like that,over the last 25 years+ .

when you go lamping again, do your recall right then, start with just a few yards then build up.

Do it with say 6-7 recall 's to the lamp [spot ] then try another field for rabbit, if still hunts up and

he prob will stop. And just keep going back to recall training, when the are like this , really you

want to for get about rabbits for while. It will come right in the end, just give it time.

[skycat 6,174]

Shock collar Back to basics, train in the field as well as at home. Unless you are a highly experienced trainer then you can do far more damage with a shock collar than any benefits you could get. This dog is still a pup and is still probably going through the teenage 'deaf you out' stage.

 

Get out mooching by day and continue practicing recall before trying on the lamp. Also, follow D.Sleights method of lamping a dummy in the back garden or field with no rabbits: a lot of dogs need 'programming' to obey the same commands when out as they do at home.

Edited December 10, 2008 by skycat

[Daveo 61]

Shock collar Back to basics, train in the field as well as at home. Unless you are a highly experienced trainer then you can do far more damage with a shock collar than any benefits you could get. This dog is still a pup and is still probably going through the teenage 'deaf you out' stage.

 

Get out mooching by day and continue practicing recall before trying on the lamp. Also, follow D.Sleights method of lamping a dummy in the back garden or field with no rabbits: a lot of dogs need 'programming' to obey the same commands when out as they do at home.

 

The dog has had training his recall is spot on unless there is game about. There was no other way than to try him and see what i was up against.

I have never seen this problem before So i thought id ask.

As for the shock collar, not for me that method.

As it is i have taken the advice and had him out today in an area that holds rabbit purly to work on his recall.

I took a ball with me and when he started hunting and ignoring I coaxed him back and we played with the ball.

I feel me and the dog have made positive progress today and i will try again tomorrow.

Cheers for the replies lads.

[Guest gaz100604]

what happens if he keeps doing and doing it though? i dont believe in all this dummy buisness , its like with modern day kids that misbehave the back of your hand should be used more often, my black pup has got two rabbits on lamp so far did a little bit of run about with bunny in mouth first time then came back to hand same with seconds bunny, and ifve never used dummys or any of that , just good call back if he wanders off too much od telling off if he doesnt come back at all and back of my hand if hes been a real prick.if its a shock collar or a smack across back head and telling off , id go with option 2.