alaunte 12 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 i know there were topics on it before and an artical in the countrymans weekly about some boys in england trying to get the breed back to something like hinks intended (from what i remember they were cracking looking dogs in the artical) instead of banana headed half witts, jmhothey were my dog's mate,glad you like'd them. good stuff alaunte, can you stick a pic up, there's a thread someone started on here'lyndon ingles',if you do a search my dog's should come up.will put more up once my buddy has time,cheer's 'wetdogsmell'. Quote Link to post
half n' half 8 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 i like the mini bulls myself and once thought of getting one as a house dog but after going seeing a few and doing my homework i realised they are a very 'never away from the vets' breed of dog. Quote Link to post
nguruve 2 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 well well well its zane the dirty african!! hows it???? do you have a photo of your bull terrier from when you was living in zim??? il have a search one of our bullies was bred of the old style and was much taller and slimmer more athletic and smaller head that isnt egg shapped he didnt have and dog aggression but did bring down a cow i will search for some pics there is a few guys ive seen in zim using bulllies to hunt warthog and leopard but i dont have any pics alaunte ive seen [bANNED TEXT] dogs they look brilliant im sure il be giving you a ring some time in the future for a puppy the alaunte dogs aren't bad either Quote Link to post
alaunte 12 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 well well well its zane the dirty african!! hows it???? do you have a photo of your bull terrier from when you was living in zim??? il have a search one of our bullies was bred of the old style and was much taller and slimmer more athletic and smaller head that isnt egg shapped he didnt have and dog aggression but did bring down a cow i will search for some pics there is a few guys ive seen in zim using bulllies to hunt warthog and leopard but i dont have any pics alaunte ive seen [bANNED TEXT] dogs they look brilliant im sure il be giving you a ring some time in the future for a puppy the alaunte dogs aren't bad either 'nguruve',glad you like them,fell free to give us a call bud,i'm sat here right now waiting for my bitch to give birth,should drop anytime soon.cheer's,lyndon. Quote Link to post
nguruve 2 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 well well well its zane the dirty african!! hows it???? do you have a photo of your bull terrier from when you was living in zim??? il have a search one of our bullies was bred of the old style and was much taller and slimmer more athletic and smaller head that isnt egg shapped he didnt have and dog aggression but did bring down a cow i will search for some pics there is a few guys ive seen in zim using bulllies to hunt warthog and leopard but i dont have any pics alaunte ive seen [bANNED TEXT] dogs they look brilliant im sure il be giving you a ring some time in the future for a puppy the alaunte dogs aren't bad either 'nguruve',glad you like them,fell free to give us a call bud,i'm sat here right now waiting for my bitch to give birth,should drop anytime soon.cheer's,lyndon. they really are loverly dogs you have mate ive been intrested in the old type athletic bullies for a long time but so hard to find a breeder Quote Link to post
Mr.Hinks 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 i know there were topics on it before and an artical in the countrymans weekly about some boys in england trying to get the breed back to something like hinks intended (from what i remember they were cracking looking dogs in the artical) instead of banana headed half witts, jmhothey were my dog's mate,glad you like'd them. good stuff alaunte, can you stick a pic up, I've been researching old photos of the original bull terriers bread by James Hinks, they are much slimer looking than there modern day counter parts with much less pronounced egg shaped heads. Even in the ninteen thirtys they seem to look more athletic than these days. I've seen an article in the Countryman news paper too (which led me to this site) entitled fitter not fatter bull terriers. These so called 'old-tyme' bulls look great, just like the originals and have obviousley been bread with whippets at some piont. Has anyone got any more info on these dogs?, are they just 50/50 cross breeds,? are they common in the hunting communitys? Ive been thinking about getting a bull whippet x when I move back to the country hopfully at the end of this year, but these olde tyme bulls have really caught my eye, they really are crackin looking dogs! Quote Link to post
alaunte 12 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 there is no whippet in my bull's 'mr hinks',i've had them for year's mate,all i've done is breed back to how they were. the k.c. can breed for big head's and massive bone and i've breed them to look the way they do,simple,no rocket science. Quote Link to post
adskibullus 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 you still get the old types of bullies in pakistan and india there called gull terr's. they have been bred the same since they were imported there when we owned india. Quote Link to post
elcasoshaun 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Over the last decade of having a modern bull terrier I have often been stopped on the streets by people from the Commonwealth countries.They tell me that there are still working bull terriers like Lyndons all over the globe. They work with other dogs all the time as dog aggression often isnt a problem in the breed. I now have a sleeker, more terrier-like BT which I picked up from a shelter here in Spain. He is so far removed from the show dogs its unbelievable. Lyndon, the missus is getting a phonecard in a day or so. I will give you a ring then, mate.I have emailed you a couple of times about your dogs. They are crackin Shaun Quote Link to post
alaunte 12 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Over the last decade of having a modern bull terrier I have often been stopped on the streets by people from the Commonwealth countries.They tell me that there are still working bull terriers like Lyndons all over the globe. They work with other dogs all the time as dog aggression often isnt a problem in the breed. I now have a sleeker, more terrier-like BT which I picked up from a shelter here in Spain. He is so far removed from the show dogs its unbelievable. Lyndon, the missus is getting a phonecard in a day or so. I will give you a ring then, mate.I have emailed you a couple of times about your dogs. They are crackin Shaun hi shaun,thank's for the interest,as you say the old type are still about.looking forward to the call. Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) At the end of all the breeding will the owners be able to have confidence to say their bull terriers,no matter which breed,ie staffs,e/bulls etc have a certain ammount of courage and determination to do a job and to do it well.Its great to get back to the type of dog you invisage as being the REAL McCOY,but is it worth all the expense,effort and investment if its just as useless as the present show bred type.This is not meant as an insult or insinuation but a side also to think about.If you produce a great looking beast that is not capable of carrying out its original task,like pest control of various forms,then here are 2 types of bull terriers,both as useless as the other.Can or has the new breed of dog brought not only the shape but the steel balls that are lacking in the catastrophy that is the modern day bull terrier.And Alaunte you know this is not a stab at you as I made it clear the type you breed are a definite improvement on the Kennel Club SHITE. Edited January 12, 2009 by jigsaw Quote Link to post
alaunte 12 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) At the end of all the breeding will the owners be able to have confidence to say their bull terriers,no matter which breed,ie staffs,e/bulls etc have a certain ammount of courage and determination to do a job and to do it well.Its great to get back to the type of dog you invisage as being the REAL McCOY,but is it worth all the expense,effort and investment if its just as useless as the present show bred type.This is not meant as an insult or insinuation but a side also to think about.If you produce a great looking beast that is not capable of carrying out its original task,like pest control of various forms,then here are 2 types of bull terriers,both as useless as the other.Can or has the new breed of dog brought not only the shape but the steel balls that are lacking in the catastrophy that is the modern day bull terrier.And Alaunte you know this is not a stab at you as I made it clear the type you breed are a definite improvement on the Kennel Club SHITE. point taken buddy,first thing first,i have NEVER big'd my dog's up if you've ever read anything about my dog's someone else has started the thread and i've just responded (funny how people i've never meet or been in my yard seem to know more about my dog's than i do).secondly f*^k the expence it's what i do (i thought every body thought i was in it for the money,at least there is someone out there who can see that it's costing me money).if we all had the attitude 'why bother' like some where would breeding in this country be (used to be known around the globe as being the best dog's in the world this island of our's).people can't be assed to put work in easyer to go to another option,f*^k them up and move on again to another easy option.when it come's to ball's of steel yes my dog's can and do do it (have proven this over the year's),at the same time i am not going to tell you they all make the grade,god and bad in ALL breed's i am willing to admit,unlike some.why did they use bull terrier if they are useless in the dogo,bull arab,tosa,why do they use them on the continent,irish stafford are bull terrier x's yet every body rave's about them,there's bull terrier in pitt line's (yep i've said it,here we go).people should not be so blinker'd,i got them because they suit me,simple as.cheer's Alaunte.P.S. there are 11 thousand member's on here, because no one on here use's them it doesn't mean they're not being worked around the place. Edited January 12, 2009 by alaunte Quote Link to post
nguruve 2 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 At the end of all the breeding will the owners be able to have confidence to say their bull terriers,no matter which breed,ie staffs,e/bulls etc have a certain ammount of courage and determination to do a job and to do it well.Its great to get back to the type of dog you invisage as being the REAL McCOY,but is it worth all the expense,effort and investment if its just as useless as the present show bred type.This is not meant as an insult or insinuation but a side also to think about.If you produce a great looking beast that is not capable of carrying out its original task,like pest control of various forms,then here are 2 types of bull terriers,both as useless as the other.Can or has the new breed of dog brought not only the shape but the steel balls that are lacking in the catastrophy that is the modern day bull terrier.And Alaunte you know this is not a stab at you as I made it clear the type you breed are a definite improvement on the Kennel Club SHITE. point taken buddy,first thing first,i have NEVER big'd my dog's up if you've ever read anything about my dog's someone else has started the thread and i've just responded (funny how people i've never meet or been in my yard seem to know more about my dog's than i do).secondly f*^k the expence it's what i do (i thought every body thought i was in it for the money,at least there is someone out there who can see that it's costing me money).if we all had the attitude 'why bother' like some where would breeding in this country be (used to be known around the globe as being the best dog's in the world this island of our's).people can't be assed to put work in easyer to go to another option,f*^k them up and move on again to another easy option.when it come's to ball's of steel yes my dog's can and do do it (have proven this over the year's),at the same time i am not going to tell you they all make the grade,god and bad in ALL breed's i am willing to admit,unlike some.why did they use bull terrier if they are useless in the dogo,bull arab,tosa,why do they use them on the continent,irish stafford are bull terrier x's yet every body rave's about them,there's bull terrier in pitt line's (yep i've said it,here we go).people should not be so blinker'd,i got them because they suit me,simple as.cheer's Alaunte.P.S. there are 11 thousand member's on here, because no one on here use's them it doesn't mean they're not being worked around the place. good post and very honest i will try get a pick up of my dog i had in zimbabwe and he isnt that dissimilar to other bullies ive seen out there and they are worked on rats,jackals and anything really i know a farmer that hunts leopard with four of them and as you say they are very diffrent looking my one i found to be quiet tall for a bully but smaller head that wasn't egg shaped but he was game as hell we never worked him but he did kill a few things on the farm of his own accord but il dig around in the photo albums and show your some of the dogs that look like ures that we have around out there Quote Link to post
whatdog72 287 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) At the end of all the breeding will the owners be able to have confidence to say their bull terriers,no matter which breed,ie staffs,e/bulls etc have a certain ammount of courage and determination to do a job and to do it well.Its great to get back to the type of dog you invisage as being the REAL McCOY,but is it worth all the expense,effort and investment if its just as useless as the present show bred type.This is not meant as an insult or insinuation but a side also to think about.If you produce a great looking beast that is not capable of carrying out its original task,like pest control of various forms,then here are 2 types of bull terriers,both as useless as the other.Can or has the new breed of dog brought not only the shape but the steel balls that are lacking in the catastrophy that is the modern day bull terrier.And Alaunte you know this is not a stab at you as I made it clear the type you breed are a definite improvement on the Kennel Club SHITE. point taken buddy,first thing first,i have NEVER big'd my dog's up if you've ever read anything about my dog's someone else has started the thread and i've just responded (funny how people i've never meet or been in my yard seem to know more about my dog's than i do).secondly f*^k the expence it's what i do (i thought every body thought i was in it for the money,at least there is someone out there who can see that it's costing me money).if we all had the attitude 'why bother' like some where would breeding in this country be (used to be known around the globe as being the best dog's in the world this island of our's).people can't be assed to put work in easyer to go to another option,f*^k them up and move on again to another easy option.when it come's to ball's of steel yes my dog's can and do do it (have proven this over the year's),at the same time i am not going to tell you they all make the grade,god and bad in ALL breed's i am willing to admit,unlike some.why did they use bull terrier if they are useless in the dogo,bull arab,tosa,why do they use them on the continent,irish stafford are bull terrier x's yet every body rave's about them,there's bull terrier in pitt line's (yep i've said it,here we go).people should not be so blinker'd,i got them because they suit me,simple as.cheer's Alaunte.P.S. there are 11 thousand member's on here, because no one on here use's them it doesn't mean they're not being worked around the place. good post and very honest i will try get a pick up of my dog i had in zimbabwe and he isnt that dissimilar to other bullies ive seen out there and they are worked on rats,jackals and anything really i know a farmer that hunts leopard with four of them and as you say they are very diffrent looking my one i found to be quiet tall for a bully but smaller head that wasn't egg shaped but he was game as hell we never worked him but he did kill a few things on the farm of his own accord but il dig around in the photo albums and show your some of the dogs that look like ures that we have around out there Edited January 25, 2009 by whatdog72 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Why did you take it that i was insinuating you were biging up your dogs.i re read my post just to make sure it didnt look like that.Now I knew what I meant,evidently you didnt see my line of thinking.I was speaking to my mate during the week and was complimenting the bulls you have developed.I KNOW NOTHING OF YOUR DOGS EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY LOOK THE BIZ.When I was digging flat out years ago there was ONLY 1 option in my area,move to a dog that Could still do the job.I have no doubt there were some bulls somewhere working but I was not in a position to go trapsing all over the country to get a working english bull,my first commitment were my terriers.I always worked a bull of some form.I was not insinuating like I earlier said your dogs dont have balls of steel.Up to the time I pm'd you I never knew there was a working strain of E/B's about.Great to know someone is working hard and I can appreciate the expense you must suffer for your passion,the terriers cost enough to keep going.The only useless bulls I go on about are the MODERN type,yours do NOT fit into this category.The english bulls they used in the dogo etc are not even remotely related to the modern disaster that is the ,,english bull KC standard''I never implied anything of your dogs,in fact im very excited at the fact that someones trying to sort out the mess the breed is in.GREAT CREDIT FOR YOUR EFFORTS.Why you seemed to have taken a slight on my remarks I cant understand as if you read the last line of my last post it explains it wasnt aimed at you.AGAIN WELL DONE FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND KEEP IT TO A DISCUSSION AND NOT AN ARGUMENT,we have enough of them going on here without joining in.When I had the english bull I did enquire as to where I might get a stud dog for her,the older dog men didnt know anyone that had them,so rather than spend valuable time searching for a dog I went the way of ths staff.I kept 4 english bulls after that and not 1 ever made the grade,all unrelated and equally useless.I came to the conclusion I was flogging a dead horse at the time,rightly or wrongly.I have to say that the best working terriers I had at the time were half bred english bulls I bred from my bitch. Anyway best wishes to you and all those that strive to improve the breed.JIGSAW Edited January 13, 2009 by jigsaw Quote Link to post
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