Just Had A Visit From The RSPCA

[gnasher16 30,217]

best thing to do if they come is make it as hard as posable for them without getting locked up make them get the police so they can see that you have been told your dogs are fine then if they come again it will be on record with the police not just the rspca. if you dont then the chances are if you have working animals they will come back time & time again just waiting to see some fresh working marks. then a rat bite will be a bager bite in there eyes & they will get the boys in blue to come to your house to take your dogs ect. then your poor dogs will be put to sleep before you can prove that the marks are from rats or whatever else couse they cant house a vishuse working dog in there pens. even though most hunting dogs are keeped with other animals & are fine with people. :realmad: so if you whant to have your dog put to sleep just let them in and make them a cup of tea but but your dogs deserve better as they will be back the minute they find out you work your animals.

 

 

All depends what breed it is mate....having a dog with fresh marks will probably get you done for failure to provide due care and attention if you didnt take it to a vet....but they wont put a dog down just because its a working dog unless its of a banned breed or remotely similar !

They can only go under government guidelines they cant put a dog down because they think its a working animal so viscious.....theres no law saying working dogs are viscious so have to be put down....hence what they can and will do is try and get you on things like lack of care regarding wounds etc to them nobody should treat a dog at home no matter how knowledgable you may be...a vets qualified and all that carry on ( in their eyes )

I think if it wasnt for dogs the rspca probably do a pretty ok job...but you cant make any excuse for killing peoples pets so scum they will be labelled and scum they are.

[mad al 146]

The RSPCA?, I wouldn't feed the feckers to a starving animal, they're feckin pond life . It's funny what folk assume though , take our dogs for instance, always out and about, very much "in ya face" if you call , get a good life, spoiled rotten when they deserve it , that's every day come to think of it the crew of three have been run this morning and will be again tonight. They are quiet about the property and bark for the right reasons

Now, take next door's dog's, kenneled 24/7 and feckin "used" for one reason................feckin spondoolas , they bark continually, nobody ever talks or shows any interest in them , I have never seen them out to this day!!!!!!!!!!!!!, they even bark at their so called owners, can't say I blame them as all they do is take their young from them and feck all else :wankerzo4: .

The reason for sharing this with you? Everybody who hears this continual racket feckin blames our dogs as they are unaware of the existence of any mutts next door

Well I'm just waitin on the day of our visit from the SS oooooops I mean RSPCA they can be meet the gang then

 

 

Why all the pix? To try and cheer up this thread that seems to be heading the same way as a couple others of late and please, having a go at Strong Stuff all the time is a bit of a bore/joke, he's probably forgotten more than most will ever know on here already

[brock1 2]

best thing to do if they come is make it as hard as posable for them without getting locked up make them get the police so they can see that you have been told your dogs are fine then if they come again it will be on record with the police not just the rspca. if you dont then the chances are if you have working animals they will come back time & time again just waiting to see some fresh working marks. then a rat bite will be a bager bite in there eyes & they will get the boys in blue to come to your house to take your dogs ect. then your poor dogs will be put to sleep before you can prove that the marks are from rats or whatever else couse they cant house a vishuse working dog in there pens. even though most hunting dogs are keeped with other animals & are fine with people. :realmad: so if you whant to have your dog put to sleep just let them in and make them a cup of tea but but your dogs deserve better as they will be back the minute they find out you work your animals.

 

 

All depends what breed it is mate....having a dog with fresh marks will probably get you done for failure to provide due care and attention if you didnt take it to a vet....but they wont put a dog down just because its a working dog unless its of a banned breed or remotely similar !

They can only go under government guidelines they cant put a dog down because they think its a working animal so viscious.....theres no law saying working dogs are viscious so have to be put down....hence what they can and will do is try and get you on things like lack of care regarding wounds etc to them nobody should treat a dog at home no matter how knowledgable you may be...a vets qualified and all that carry on ( in their eyes )

I think if it wasnt for dogs the rspca probably do a pretty ok job...but you cant make any excuse for killing peoples pets so scum they will be labelled and scum they are.

 

ye right like they only go to the the property that was complained about mate. that is why they whent door to door in my street asking everyone if they had dogs & if you sead yes they phoned the police if you did not let them in. saying they had a report about your dogs & they did not just come to mine as i was not the only one with dogs they went to every ones house & every one they went to with working dogs in my street got a worning saying they where comeing back becouse of some reson or another.mine was couse i feed my ferrets a rabbit that was cought more than 3 hours ago. then they whent to another street just round the corner & done the same telling every one they had a complaint of niglect in the area & only people with lurchers or terriers got a letter saying they where comeing back. coinsodence i think not.

[Kay 3,709]

I have had 1 visit from them this year may time i think it was , i had taken the greyhound bitch on & someone had reported a big thin black & white dog, i was out with the dog at the time & spotted a van outside my house on returning from the walk , the bloke got out the van & spoke to me as i went up the drive

 

he left happy but i wouldnt have let him in the house if i had been indoors , now whoever it was that rang them must have known we had only had the dog a matter of weeks because previously to that we had only walked the old terrier & she had been an only dog here for years .

 

I would have prefered the person who rang them to have asked me why she looked thin to them, i can only assume they must have thought that if you dont have a yappy mop on a lead or an obese dog that your not looking after them properly

[TOPPER 1,809]

there out and out scum scounging money sucking scum and you should never let the bast--ds in your property i ve been having a bit of a do with them of late as according to them my aluants a pitbull they came around and were told to fck off then they came back with a copper but the copper knows iam a JP so was abit coy i invited the copper in and told the rspca wankeerr he could wait in his van [ he was not amused] i then got on google to prove to the copper it was a pukka breed as he d been told by guess who there is no such breed after about half an hour with the copper talking to him about aluants he goes out to our fiend outside and tells him it is a pukka breed and not to waste his time on things he doesnt know about and if he bothers me again iam to report it to the plod stating the incident number etc and it will be sorted ha ha

 

 

dog 1 rspsca 0 just keep watching for the next thrilling episode

 

and iam still not sure about artic iam sure hes an anti , he loves the rspca and fully supports the police cant be a hunting man

[Guest blackntan]

there out and out scum scounging money sucking scum and you should never let the bast--ds in your property i ve been having a bit of a do with them of late as according to them my aluants a pitbull they came around and were told to fck off then they came back with a copper but the copper knows iam a JP so was abit coy i invited the copper in and told the rspca wankeerr he could wait in his van [ he was not amused] i then got on google to prove to the copper it was a pukka breed as he d been told by guess who there is no such breed after about half an hour with the copper talking to him about aluants he goes out to our fiend outside and tells him it is a pukka breed and not to waste his time on things he doesnt know about and if he bothers me again iam to report it to the plod stating the incident number etc and it will be sorted ha ha

 

 

dog 1 rspsca 0 just keep watching for the next thrilling episode

 

and iam still not sure about artic iam sure hes an anti , he loves the rspca and fully supports the police cant be a hunting man

THERE SEEMS TO BE DUBIOUS CHARCTERS ON HERE I TRY TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE Edited December 5, 2008 by blackntan

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

there out and out scum scounging money sucking scum and you should never let the bast--ds in your property i ve been having a bit of a do with them of late as according to them my aluants a pitbull they came around and were told to fck off then they came back with a copper but the copper knows iam a JP so was abit coy i invited the copper in and told the rspca wankeerr he could wait in his van [ he was not amused] i then got on google to prove to the copper it was a pukka breed as he d been told by guess who there is no such breed after about half an hour with the copper talking to him about aluants he goes out to our fiend outside and tells him it is a pukka breed and not to waste his time on things he doesnt know about and if he bothers me again iam to report it to the plod stating the incident number etc and it will be sorted ha ha

 

 

dog 1 rspsca 0 just keep watching for the next thrilling episode

 

and iam still not sure about artic iam sure hes an anti , he loves the rspca and fully supports the police cant be a hunting man

 

 

It doesn't matter a jot what YOU say it is, it doesn't matter if it is a recognised breed of another type other than an APBT, if it is TYPE and they want to, they can seize it, the onus is on you to prove in a court that it it is NOT "Pitbull Type", and if you look at the description then you can see where problems may arise.

 

 

From the DEFRA website:

Description of the main characteristics of the Pit Bull Terrier type

 

General Description

 

Muscular smooth-haired dog.

Has a square profile (ie as tall from the

ground to the top of the shoulder and

as long from point of shoulder to point

of hip).

Height (average for both male and

female) (shoulder): 45–55 cm.

 

Head

Should be wedge-shaped when viewed

from the top or side and round when

viewed from the front.

Broad jawbones.

Broad skull.

Strongly developed nostrils.

Strongly developed cheek and

jaw muscles.

 

Muzzle

Not pointed.

 

Ears

Located high on skull.

Tips of ears fold forward or sideways

or have been cropped.

No wrinkles.

 

Eyes

Elliptical when viewed from front.

Triangular when viewed from side.

Small and deep set.

 

Neck

Muscular all the way up to base of skull.

 

Chest

Broad.

Deep ribcage.

Ribs strongly curved tapering towards

bottom.

 

Back

Muscular.

Broad sloping hips.

Broad loin.

 

Legs

Front legs are straight and give a massive,

solid impression.

Hips are long and broad and continue on

to become relatively long hind legs with

a well-muscled thigh.

 

Coat

Single coat.

Short smooth haired but bristled to touch.

Can be any colour.

 

Tail

Located low down in hindquarters.

Thick at base tapering to point at end.

Narrows to a slender tip or has

been docked.

Should hang like a pump handle

when relaxed.

 

And before anyone mentions DNA tests .............. If any relationship can be shown through DNA evidence to any dog already deemed "type" in a court, then it's game over.

 

So hypothetically, if a dog was used somewhere in the make up of another seperate breed, and that dog had been proved to be APBT type, then any related offspring could easily also be proved to be type using a stated case.

 

DNA tests can't determine the breed of dog as such, ie. to say whether a dog is a collie or a labrador but they can be used to prove a genetic relationship between specific dogs.

 

Or so I'm told ..........

[Guest blackntan]

there out and out scum scounging money sucking scum and you should never let the bast--ds in your property i ve been having a bit of a do with them of late as according to them my aluants a pitbull they came around and were told to fck off then they came back with a copper but the copper knows iam a JP so was abit coy i invited the copper in and told the rspca wankeerr he could wait in his van [ he was not amused] i then got on google to prove to the copper it was a pukka breed as he d been told by guess who there is no such breed after about half an hour with the copper talking to him about aluants he goes out to our fiend outside and tells him it is a pukka breed and not to waste his time on things he doesnt know about and if he bothers me again iam to report it to the plod stating the incident number etc and it will be sorted ha ha

 

 

dog 1 rspsca 0 just keep watching for the next thrilling episode

 

and iam still not sure about artic iam sure hes an anti , he loves the rspca and fully supports the police cant be a hunting man

 

 

It doesn't matter a jot what YOU say it is, it doesn't matter if it is a recognised breed of another type other than an APBT, if it is TYPE and they want to, they can seize it, the onus is on you to prove in a court that it it is NOT "Pitbull Type", and if you look at the description then you can see where problems may arise.

 

 

From the DEFRA website:

Description of the main characteristics of the Pit Bull Terrier type

 

General Description

 

Muscular smooth-haired dog.

Has a square profile (ie as tall from the

ground to the top of the shoulder and

as long from point of shoulder to point

of hip).

Height (average for both male and

female) (shoulder): 45–55 cm.

 

Head

Should be wedge-shaped when viewed

from the top or side and round when

viewed from the front.

Broad jawbones.

Broad skull.

Strongly developed nostrils.

Strongly developed cheek and

jaw muscles.

 

Muzzle

Not pointed.

 

Ears

Located high on skull.

Tips of ears fold forward or sideways

or have been cropped.

No wrinkles.

 

Eyes

Elliptical when viewed from front.

Triangular when viewed from side.

Small and deep set.

 

Neck

Muscular all the way up to base of skull.

 

Chest

Broad.

Deep ribcage.

Ribs strongly curved tapering towards

bottom.

 

Back

Muscular.

Broad sloping hips.

Broad loin.

 

Legs

Front legs are straight and give a massive,

solid impression.

Hips are long and broad and continue on

to become relatively long hind legs with

a well-muscled thigh.

 

Coat

Single coat.

Short smooth haired but bristled to touch.

Can be any colour.

 

Tail

Located low down in hindquarters.

Thick at base tapering to point at end.

Narrows to a slender tip or has

been docked.

Should hang like a pump handle

when relaxed.

 

And before anyone mentions DNA tests .............. If any relationship can be shown through DNA evidence to any dog already deemed "type" in a court, then it's game over.

 

So hypothetically, if a dog was used somewhere in the make up of another seperate breed, and that dog had been proved to be APBT type, then any related offspring could easily also be proved to be type using a stated case.

 

DNA tests can't determine the breed of dog as such, ie. to say whether a dog is a collie or a labrador but they can be used to prove a genetic relationship between specific dogs.

 

Or so I'm told ..........

FOOOOK ME SS YOU HAVE JUST DESCRIBED YOUR SELF

[Guest blackntan]

AND JUST AS A ADD ON TO THIS THREAD THE NORTH WEST HUNT SABS HAVE STRONG LINKS TO ANIMAL RESCUE CENTERS ACROSS THE NORTH WEST OF ENGLAND , THEY ARE A CUNNING CREW, SEVERAL OF THERE MEMBERS WORK AT THESE SO CALLED RESCUE CENTERS AND HAVE CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS YET HAVE NEVER BEEN CHECKED OUT AND THE LAW STATES ANY ONE WORKING WITH OR AROUND KIDS SHOULD BE CHECKED OUT , TWO HAVE SEVED 5 AND 6 YEAR SENTECES FOR ARSON WHILE ANOTHER HAS CRIMINAL DAMAGE , WHY CAN THEY PUT PHOTOS UP ON THERE SITES OF HUNT STAFF TERRIER AND LURCHER MEN YET WE SIT BY AND DO NOWT , FREE OTIS FERRY

Edited December 5, 2008 by blackntan

[artic 595]

there out and out scum scounging money sucking scum and you should never let the bast--ds in your property i ve been having a bit of a do with them of late as according to them my aluants a pitbull they came around and were told to fck off then they came back with a copper but the copper knows iam a JP so was abit coy i invited the copper in and told the rspca wankeerr he could wait in his van [ he was not amused] i then got on google to prove to the copper it was a pukka breed as he d been told by guess who there is no such breed after about half an hour with the copper talking to him about aluants he goes out to our fiend outside and tells him it is a pukka breed and not to waste his time on things he doesnt know about and if he bothers me again iam to report it to the plod stating the incident number etc and it will be sorted ha ha

 

 

dog 1 rspsca 0 just keep watching for the next thrilling episode

 

and iam still not sure about artic iam sure hes an anti , he loves the rspca and fully supports the police cant be a hunting man

 

Sorry but i couldn't resist!

 

"Topper" i do not support the RSPCA, read my posts on this thread again. I will support the police, have friends in the police who hunt, who are on this site, who care about our future of this sport. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Topper, your happy to take my money though.......

 

Think before you jump on the Band Wagon, one track mind.............

 

Anti? I think not........

[fellman 116]

Strong Stuff,

 

Everything you say is utter crap! You will be the one who will have major problems with them and the police if you give them the chance too. What i stated was like you said "Ive nothing to hide" then let them see. They will never pester you again.

 

It's about having a easy life. If you dont like them, and you have nothing to hide, and dont want them turning up at your house, then whats the problem? Have a good think about that simple question?

 

I dont like them, but a smile and wave keeps them away from my house.

 

Your attitude pal will attract all the unwanted people in your life, im one of them......... yes the PSCO! id have another guess! :kiss:

 

As for working dogs, lololol.......... You dont know the meaning of Working Dogs, or do you? I've not got to justify what i do with my dogs to you Mr strut your stuff...............

 

Ooop's Spooks is on.

 

and you my friend have no idea what your talking about !

rspca are the ENEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they will take your dogs off you and have you up on any number of false allagations! there are stacks of those look around on this site you will find many instances on links here and there

 

 

yis fellman

dont let them anywhere near !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

c**ts to a man

[chimp 299]

ok anti you say your not , copper you say your not but you are getting a few people talking and not just this site , every other post is defending the people who are against hunting .

 

just be careful people regarding the RSPCA and the buddies

[artic 595]

ok anti you say your not , copper you say your not but you are getting a few people talking and not just this site , every other post is defending the people who are against hunting .

 

just be careful people regarding the RSPCA and the buddies

 

"Chimp" thats whats great about forums.

 

People do talk chimp, have suspicions etc..........

 

Like the RSPCA talk when they leave your house after you have verbally abused them!

 

I'm NOT defending the RSPCA, i have nowt to do with them, and like i said i got my revenge on them.

 

Im not going to hate them, start trouble with them, this will only attract bad attention. So all that say i will f**k them off, dont lie to yourselves! And if you do, then good luck, because i dont want them on me door nor the police.

A cup of tea, a fake smile, goes a long way...........

Edited December 5, 2008 by artic

[Little Butch 16]

I'll second what StrongStuff just posted.

It's on you to prove that your Dog Is NOT a banned 'Type' not the other way round.....

 

Butch

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

Topper, your happy to take my money though.......

 

Anti? I think not........

 

Topper .............. ................ Surely you didn't?!

 

You best hope he's NOT an anti!!!!!!