rabbit traping

[micky 3,325]

I live in Tea Leaf country micky a nice fenceline full of bodygrips and there gone... Snares are pennies to replace compared to BGs... But they all have there uses including BG's & Fenns its nice to have a change

A tea leaf in the north east ?your kidding,whats his name then

[moley 115]

I would question the legality of that set in the second photo down, the legislation covering spring traps is meant to safeguard non target species and any dog or anything else for that matter happning to have a sniff at that burrow would be in for a sore one, or at least thats the way it looks in the photo, apologies if im wrong.

 

 

that trap is set within the overhang of the burrow , thats what the law states ,i,m not going to put up pictures of illegaly set traps , am i ? give me a bit of credit , this is my livelihood, a fenn can also twat dogs or other non target species same as a snare , but we try our best to catch the target,

 

snares are certainly cheaper , but like mickey said , no squeelling and no catch circle with bodygrips that can lead the one and only dishonest person in the north east to your traps, everything has its uses in the correct situation ,

[John Keswick 119]

Edited January 7, 2009 by John Keswick

[Guest jbswildlife]

the first time i watched a bg trap being used in a burrow, it was the type of hole that goes in and has two ajoining holes within the first like a t junction two bgs were used to cover these holes whilst being covered by the main exit hole roof. cant see how it would be placed within a single hole burrow without cutting a section out on top. fenn all the way with a single holer

Edited December 31, 2008 by john b

[Guest hawkforce1]

Very Good subject; I see some people with a wide banded thoughts on this:- would like to know more on this subject. sounds like a good starting point towards the field craft study.

[moley 115]

The law states that these traps must be set in a tunel not an overhang so im not entirely sure where you are geting your information from, and if a protected or domestic animal was to be injured or killed in a trap set in an overhang a prosecution would very quickly decifer between the two and taking the picture in question the trap is clearly visable in the mouth of the burrow which doesnt appear to have any overhang anyway even if that was the case. the trap has been well concealed with the surrounding vegetation which also drapes over the rest of the outside of the burrow which again shows that the trap is not properly inside the tunnel or the vegetation would not be as clearly visable as is the trap. Im not looking to pick holes in peoples work here but like the guy has said himself its his livelyhood so lets do things right and by the law, or we may lose them.

 

Ed

hi ed

if you are going to quote the law then get it right ,the law states that a trap must be set within the overhang of a natural or artificial tunnel, that trap in the second picture has the spring set straight up , so that the trap is within the overhang and within the law , the foliage is over the trap to encourage the rabbit to push thru ,not to hide a badly set trap, i got the idea from seeing straw blown over the hole mouth and the rabbits were pushing thru, just cos you don,t like bodygrips don,t try and be-little my ways of setting traps ,if you want to know methods then ask , just remember we have seen your attempts at setting traps on video , so can see how experienced you are , i use these devices every day of the week and have done for over 3oyears,

[R_Oldroyd 17]

Hmmm,

 

I will be sticking with me fenns when i can be arse to use them. Its the time issue that concerns me. I can put more snares out quicker than i can set fenns though the number of visits to site is likey to be less.

 

 

regards Roger.

Edited December 31, 2008 by john b

[micky 3,325]

There both good traps, the fenn being preferable for mouths of burrows....We all have our won methods but both traps are excellent.

 

well as you know i run about 100 bg,s at a time in certain situations and find that tho they work in burrow mouths they are not as good as fenns , for other situations like under fences , thru cover etc , they are far better that fenns, i wouldn,t waste my time and effort setting them if i didn,t think they worked better , e.cook , you should give them a try , you might just change your mind

 

Hi Moley, i have tried and tested BGs in place of Fenn traps on numerous occasions, at one point running just under 200 at a time and i didnt get as good results as with the Fenn traps i was using before so i switched back, i passed a load of them on to a friend who does squirell controll for the Forrestry commision and he has had good results with them for that, i just dont find them usefull for what i do.

Ed ,when i started with fenn traps ,istarted with a couple ,saw what they could do ,then bought more,the same with BGs,and snares,the better i got, the the more kit i got,most people who trap and snare have done the same [walk before you can run] so tell me Ed how did you get to running two hundred BGs at a time ,then decide they were not for you,surely you must have known after setting a few.

[moley 115]

There both good traps, the fenn being preferable for mouths of burrows....We all have our won methods but both traps are excellent.

 

well as you know i run about 100 bg,s at a time in certain situations and find that tho they work in burrow mouths they are not as good as fenns , for other situations like under fences , thru cover etc , they are far better that fenns, i wouldn,t waste my time and effort setting them if i didn,t think they worked better , e.cook , you should give them a try , you might just change your mind

 

Hi Moley, i have tried and tested BGs in place of Fenn traps on numerous occasions, at one point running just under 200 at a time and i didnt get as good results as with the Fenn traps i was using before so i switched back, i passed a load of them on to a friend who does squirell controll for the Forrestry commision and he has had good results with them for that, i just dont find them usefull for what i do.

Ed ,when i started with fenn traps ,istarted with a couple ,saw what they could do ,then bought more,the same with BGs,and snares,the better i got, the the more kit i got,most people who trap and snare have done the same [walk before you can run] so tell me Ed how did you get to running two hundred BGs at a time ,then decide they were not for you,surely you must have known after setting a few.

 

I was given them to try by the manufacturer, and put them in place of fenns that were already down on a job, tried them for a few months and switched back.

 

there is plenty out there in cyberspace to read up on trapping laws , and lads on here that can find them, if i have miss-read or miss -quoted the laws then , i appologise , i stay within the law as i see it and wether that picture looks like that trap is set illegally to you is niether here nor there, i know it is set legally and that is what matters

[bandit man 9]

how much are mk 6 fenn traps i wouldn't mind having a go with some

[john b 38]

I've edited this topic as an interesting thread had degenerated into a slanging match.

I don't know what's got into you lot lately - this section used to be free of that sort of behavior and frankly it's not welcome.

 

There is no problem with debate or opinions but personal attacks just aren't acceptable.

 

OK ?

[Guest jbswildlife]

I've edited this topic as an interesting thread had degenerated into a slanging match.

I don't know what's got into you lot lately - this section used to be free of that sort of behavior and frankly it's not welcome.

 

There is no problem with debate or opinions but personal attacks just aren't acceptable.

 

OK ?

 

 

i agree, every person that shows a upstanding respect for our trade gets knocked down in this site

[micky 3,325]

I've edited this topic as an interesting thread had degenerated into a slanging match.

I don't know what's got into you lot lately - this section used to be free of that sort of behavior and frankly it's not welcome.

 

There is no problem with debate or opinions but personal attacks just aren't acceptable.

 

OK ?

can anyone give me any idea as to [via PM]what went on ,as i have a couple things to ask about,or ,have they allready been asked?

[Guest jbswildlife]

yeap the one the only mr cook has had his say

[devonlad 0]

I expect he will learn a lot from the Pro's on here..