Guest anonymous Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Seems to me if you want to see a long chase where the stakes are more in the dogs favour......... go to the fens. If you want to see real hunting where the stakes are more favoured towards the hare, go everywhere else. Quote Link to post
brookie 1,193 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 ash run in two forley finals he was pure saluki heres his coursing record Quote Link to post
polecat 1 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 correct me if i,m wrong but thought this was about hardest hares ?????????????????? i,ve had lads off here on my permision and they,ve had hare dogs and i,ve yet to see any kill 3/3 2/3 had one lad that his dog killed 1/3 thats what i call hard hares ohh and bye the bye am in ayrshire scotland hard hares here Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 asd how many saluks pure have u saw running mate ive saw over a hundred in the usa coursing , not all good ones to and alot were owned by pet owners , but i have saw a handful who needed no greyhound or lurcher in him to catch strong winter jack rabbits or desert foxes or silver foxes , and one against decent lurcher dogs but what i must say they were the best i saw the rest would need crossed as they were not pacy not fit not had enough game and not brougth up on game properly mate, [bANNED TEXT] old minshaws or my strain of dogs wouldnt have done it on the dry arid land , no piont of slagging dogs of i would saty there more saluk than lurcher mix im most fen dogs my mate one the cambridge cup 2 years on the trot with strong looking saluk crosses , strong dogs who will mix it with foxes and there pups are decent t all rounders with stamin he bred them to bed cross and my ole colli cross, i think the lurcher has benefited alot from some of the saluks ive saw feet stamina atheletic and some run very cunning on a hare , there saluk bred but as they all look like saluk in them run like saluks just a bit faster , some of the best saluks are real good but youle not see them much in the uk but the yanks go all over to get them saw some real ggod one mate , would a dog witthout a good dash of saluk win the forley mate i wonder Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 correct me if i,m wrong but thought this was about hardest hares ?????????????????? i,ve had lads off here on my permision and they,ve had hare dogs and i,ve yet to see any kill 3/3 2/3 had one lad that his dog killed 1/3 thats what i call hard hares ohh and bye the bye am in ayrshire scotland hard hares here the hardest Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 polecat is the ground maybe not suitable to get big numbers hence the reason youre not catching them maybe bettetr lamping land or hunting up land with to or three smaller type of dogs whoare quick of the mark , not all land suits dogs , a guy siad to me once i keep knocking my dogs up real flinty land i says maybe the lands not for running dogs get a good 22 he says welll maybe you are [bANNED TEXT] ,my freind goes to ayrshire had twos and maybe threes some days i no he has caught two there and has been a good few times but short chases and over all sorts of terrain mate Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 being very seruois about minshaws etc if they were very good or are very good not many genuine types about or not saw many and all of a sudden there all about , ive hunted every county in the uk and yet to see a genuine one for donkeys , i can find old copies of shooting news with them in years ago , Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 polecat is the ground maybe not suitable to get big numbers hence the reason youre not catching them maybe bettetr lamping land or hunting up land with to or three smaller type of dogs whoare quick of the mark , not all land suits dogs , a guy siad to me once i keep knocking my dogs up real flinty land i says maybe the lands not for running dogs get a good 22 he says welll maybe you are [bANNED TEXT] ,my freind goes to ayrshire had twos and maybe threes some days i no he has caught two there and has been a good few times but short chases and over all sorts of terrain mate that woudent be wullie whin you need a quick sharp dog or you will catch sweet fa through here Quote Link to post
polecat 1 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 polecat is the ground maybe not suitable to get big numbers hence the reason youre not catching them maybe bettetr lamping land or hunting up land with to or three smaller type of dogs whoare quick of the mark , not all land suits dogs , a guy siad to me once i keep knocking my dogs up real flinty land i says maybe the lands not for running dogs get a good 22 he says welll maybe you are [bANNED TEXT] ,my freind goes to ayrshire had twos and maybe threes some days i no he has caught two there and has been a good few times but short chases and over all sorts of terrain mate whin there are more hares on my ground than i,ve seen anywhere else in scotland for years ground is good running ground had boys on with all sorts of lurchers sals collie bulls beddy you name it they cant take them Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 I havent been involved in a lot of hare coursing/lamping in the time i have been into dogs. But i've done a little bit of it. The only input i can really give is these "northern" or "lamped" and even "northern lamped" hare's are not as 'easy' as you may think they are. I have seen a couple of "gruellers" but also seen a couple of "quick uns" Like any other subject that arrises on these "internet communitys" if you want to see how "easy" it is, just come up & give it a go..... Like the Markbrick/Fen's challenge he went up and proved himself Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 is it not suited for decent dogs to kill them to much fences cover or just short running and the dogs not getting on them quick enough ye willis been there was in ayrshire years ago mate 6 or more caught one but cant mind the area near beatock , pl;aces if there pressured to much with people chaseing them all the time wiseings them up , no good for starting young dogs etc Quote Link to post
polecat 1 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 is it not suited for decent dogs to kill them to much fences cover or just short running and the dogs not getting on them quick enough ye willis been there was in ayrshire years ago mate 6 or more caught one but cant mind the area near beatock , pl;aces if there pressured to much with people chaseing them all the time wiseings them up , no good for starting young dogs etc beatock not in ayrshire whin thats dumfries area mate Quote Link to post
Guest Rabbiteer Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 :clapper:bunnies are better Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 is it not suited for decent dogs to kill them to much fences cover or just short running and the dogs not getting on them quick enough ye willis been there was in ayrshire years ago mate 6 or more caught one but cant mind the area near beatock , pl;aces if there pressured to much with people chaseing them all the time wiseings them up , no good for starting young dogs etc decent dogs here they have to be if you look in the hunting clips chester put our pups on it you need them sharp like that to much saluki and the hares will just straight line them horses for courses mate Quote Link to post
Flynn 314 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Max,your bitch Nancy is coursing bred and you probably call her a Saluki lurcher? What % of her is Saluki? I'd hazard a guess and say she'll not be much more if any than other mixes in her possibly even Greyhound? I stand to be corrected though . The common denominator Andy is that her line is Bred best to best PROVEN DAYTIME HARE KILLING Lurchers with Saluki blood in the mix which gives them the wind, the toughness, heart, strike, ect maybe comes from the beddy, deerhound, even maybe a touch of bull or collie but what is certain every ancestor could take good numbers of daytime hares regular throughout the winter on field or fen. Her sire is Captain who is on vid taking 6-6 his owner wasnt scared of massive slips, Captain was by Gazza who once took 11-11, there is a pure saluki in her mix called Prince on her sire line as well as a hare killing machine of unknown breeding ie Laddie the Accident, her dam is Snowy who's mother was Seagull who was by Mcullochs Fred x Eve, fred was by a three quatre saluki - greyhound out of a sister to Fly. Eve was by the Prince dog (pure saluki) So imo saluki x lurchers who could kill DAYTIME HARES WITH STYLE read it and weep http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0 I havent been involved in a lot of hare coursing/lamping in the time i have been into dogs. But i've done a little bit of it. The only input i can really give is these "northern" or "lamped" and even "northern lamped" hare's are not as 'easy' as you may think they are. I have seen a couple of "gruellers" but also seen a couple of "quick uns" Like any other subject that arrises on these "internet communitys" if you want to see how "easy" it is, just come up & give it a go..... Like the Markbrick/Fen's challenge he went up and proved himself against a sapling ye ye ye. one swallow dont make a summer Quote Link to post
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