how do i set a traditional longnet ?

[ferret boy charlie 0]

hi all i want too make my trad net into a quikset but i want to know how to set a trad ? also how do i make mine into a quikset ? cheers

Edited November 29, 2008 by ferret boy charlie

[stubby 175]

to make yours into a quickset, you need a basket to carry it in, can be picked up from £35 to £50 depending on quaility, then the poles, quickset tend to use fibreglass poles, I got mine from "magnums" link to their site on the main page to longnetting, cost around £3.50 each, you get black or white poles, I used all black, but with a white pole start and finish, as it makes ends easy to identify when using more than one net

 

stretch your net out, having first worked out where your having your poles, be it every 5yds,6yds etc

attatch first pole, pull top and bottom lines tight and net to say 5yds, mark the line with a marker, then holding the net, drag it back to the first pole, this will give you 10yds of net on 5yds of line, put your 2nd pole where the marks on the line are, continue the full length of net

 

do you know how much bagging in length you have, as if its only say 75% then doing as above, youll end up with a shorter net, once you know how much bagging you have, you can adjust accordinly,

 

you could really do with watching a dvd on the process, unless you have someone close to you that can help

[ferret boy charlie 0]

cheers stubby i think it is %bagging could i use electric fencing poles instead ? and do you know how to set it trasditionaly ?

[will.f11 24]

you can also attach grommits (pm molecatcher) onto hazel poles, these are free but obviously not as nice to use as the fibreglass ones. or you can buy some dowell rods from somewhere like B&Q

[Brimmer 220]

Don't know about the quickset, but i'm not too slow with the old longnet.

Depends on the length of it, but work on having a pole every 5 yrds.

Peg in your longnet at one end of where you would like it to start from, (when i pick mine up i put it back on the peg, with one arms span of net, top and bottom lines.) so drop it off evenly to the end and peg in.

Drop off your poles/sticks at 5 yrd intervals, or at any point where the ground rise or falls, you need the bottom line pinned to the deck hard so nothing can get under it.

Then start from one end, give the bottom line one turn around the pole spike, pull it taught to the peg and press into the ground, pick up the top line, twist around the top of the pole one way, then from the other side twist it back over, making sure it is taught. Repeat all the way along.

When this is done, get on the backside of the net, and pull out the kill on the net (baggy netting) so it's on the backside of the net.

Then get the bunny's out!

When picking up.

Pull out the poles, then pick up the net, in arms lengths (top and bottom cord) and slip over the peg whilst walking along.

I'll try and get piccies tommorow, it's easier that way!

[ianrob 2]

hi all i want too make my trad net into a quikset but i want to know how to set a trad ? also how do i make mine into a quikset ? cheers

 

Hi mate, there are quite a few opinions and methods for both quickset and conventional/traditional methods of setting your net. The methods depend on whether you are working alone, how much dexterity and co-ordination you have, and your own opinion as to what suits you. For example, the man who invented the quick set net, "Glenn Waters" , never uses a basket, he prefers to carry the net by hand.

Traditional nets single handed can be ran out then back pegged or pegged as you go.

I suggest you read Harold Wymans' book, "The art of longnetting". Some regard it as a bible, but you can question aspects of it. Ie, the main reason he gives for pegging as you go, is to prevent your net from being on the ground, yet a set long net can be pulled up head high, though it's usually set at just under two feet, so at any time two thirds of the net can be on the ground anyway, as the wind can be turbulent and not a constant speed. The next set, the net might be the other way up. He also severely criticises tied on end pegs, which in the days of cotton running lines, had to be free running as there was no stretch. Now with nylon especially if you run out then back peg, you can put a fair bit of tension into your net, preventing uneveness. If however you peg as you go, which quite a few advocate, then it's easier to have a free running line as it helps equal out tension in the cords, it also saves hassle, and is easier to repair if you get your running line chewed through, which is just a matter of time, especially if you work alone, as while you are out chasing in the rabbits, some might have a while to attack your net. Personally now, most of my old local haunts are knackered due to light pollution, so I don't do as much night netting as I did. I use peg as you go and back pegging, depending on how i feel, and how well my peg as you go is working, it's probably the best, but back pegging in my case is quicker and easier, it also lets you sort out the bagging if it has got out of sorts on a previous set.

You will probably get a few answers now which will indicate how much opinions can differ, so read it all and make up your own mind. Good luck.

Edited November 29, 2008 by ianrob

[Brimmer 220]

How hard is it Ian to try to put into words how to set a longnet? Bladdy hard that's what! I bet someone showing how to do it once could beat a 100 posts telling how to do it! (by the way, might look into the peg and go thing!)

[will.f11 24]

i may be able to get a few piccys up tomorrow aswell of the traditional.

[ianrob 2]

How hard is it Ian to try to put into words how to set a longnet? Bladdy hard that's what! I bet someone showing how to do it once could beat a 100 posts telling how to do it! (by the way, might look into the peg and go thing!)

 

You did not a bad job mate, not bad at all.

[Joonsy 38]

but you can question aspects of it. Ie, the main reason he gives for pegging as you go, is to prevent your net from being on the ground

There are two very good reasons pegging as you go is superior to back pegging, firstly with pegging as you go the bagging in net is always kept within two pegs, with back pegging when the wind is end on the the bagging in net will slide all the way to one end meaning lots of work re-distributing bagging when back pegging, secondly with back pegging the amount of time walking up and down the net is doubled hence far more disturbance to the quarry, i often set five 50 yard nets in old traditional way by pegging as you go, just imagine how much extra time and work, hence disturbance to quarry, this would involve by repeatedly going up and down each 50 yard net, keep disturbance to a minimum and keep bagging evenly distributed between each two setting pegs, you can set as many sets a night as you like with pegging as you go as bagging will always be correctly distributed. Also end pins must always be free-running and not tied.

[ianrob 2]

there you have it then, throw the nets in the bin, there's only one way.

[ianrob 2]

there you have it then, throw the nets in the bin, there's only one way.

Sorry about the curt reply joonsey, just, I replied twice and an error came up and I lost it. First point, I can do both peg as you go and back pegging. Secondly, you overstate the difficulty of bag distribution . Third point as I said, you need a running cord if using peg as you go, but for back pegging it matters not one jot. Third, you can get away with a peg every eight yards if back pegging as you can get the cords tighter. We had all these things about a month ago. We agreed that not everyone found it possible to peg as you go singlehandedly. Some prefered preset, I'm not sure it matters any way. Light pollution has Fuc4ed it round here anyway. Ps if you can run 5 x fiftys on your own your a machine, way to go.

[Brimmer 220]

I'm no experienced man on the old longnet, but can relate to what Joonsy said about the kill bieng pushed up to one end with the wind, then the cursing going on as i tried pulling it back over itself!

Could tying it up every few yards help?

Spoke to my old man about this, he thinks maybee?

[ianrob 2]

I'm no experienced man on the old longnet, but can relate to what Joonsy said about the kill bieng pushed up to one end with the wind, then the cursing going on as i tried pulling it back over itself!

Could tying it up every few yards help?

Spoke to my old man about this, he thinks maybee?

 

Hi Mate, Joonsey no doubt can do the job well, however I feel he's being a little dogmatic. I can manage fine doing it either way. Peg as you go, done very carefully will keep the bag in each section. It is possible still however to get in a mess. It is easier if there is two of you.

Tied in bag can cause problems. The net can blow along over the knotted part giving a large heap of unmanageable difficult to sort net.

Peg as you go and always lift the net into the wind, if you can. If you back peg, always be aware of keeping your net sorted ie if your bag is a bit tight at one end, then lift from that end so that when you run it next drop, you can pull bag to you as you peg. Either way, in an end wind, tail out the last fifteen or so yards, of the end the wind is blowing towards, and make sure you have plenty bag there, as the net will tend to blow along to the pegs and a lot of rabbits can bounce off, and run along the front of the net. These will hopefully be caught in the tail, ie shaped like a letter L..

[will.f11 24]

i find it alot easier to get in a mess, whilst pegging as i go. I have put alot of time practising both methods but find back pegging easiest :s doesnt take long if you can walk fast