WIRE DACHSHUND

[john hubery 9]

Compo may be able to back me up on this one, my bitch has been a natural retriever from day one if she finds something she brings it to you which surprised me them being of hound breeding, they are deseptivley fast for a little dog with short legs, at the moment in the little pack we only untill now had teckel crosses, but in the near future are looking to add more teckels to the pack Iam hoping to have a look over the water myself this next year and bring something back with me, would like to think it will be a bitch with a full belly

[COMPO 54]

Russell

 

as John says, they are very suited to rough shooting, i started with an interest and then bought a teckel x border terrier (she is 3 now) i now also have a pure teckel and along with our old spaniel am hoping to hunt them as a small pack at rabbits as a lot do.........shooting over them is the obvious natural progression!

 

My Pup was born in august so is now 4 months old and is showing a natural instinct to carry stuff that my kids throw for him! My teckel x doesn't carry though unless its stilll alive and she will then kill it!

 

We should invite Ruger8 and Capreolus (spelling) to this topic as they own the mother and the father to mine!

 

Ruger8 is in the process of importing a dog hound from Poland, John where were you thinking of going to for a pup? Ruger8 had trouble with trying from France, He would explain better!

 

Oh and Russell the grandmother to mine is owned by Brockbart and is used for providing sport for his running dogs

 

Compo

[russell tuck 127]

have you any close up pics to see how big thay are and weight what do you work yours on john/compo

thanks again lads

[COMPO 54]

My teckel x and my teckel pup are in my signature!

 

heres the pup this last week with a rabbit i shot

 

all 3 of my dogs asleep in the kitchen, the spaniel is a coker so that may give you some scale

 

 

Come one everyone else get pics of yours up too

[COMPO 54]

Russell

 

My pups father is on this thread, as are the rest of the litter and perhaps the mother

 

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...teckel&st=0

[mackay 3,330]

Before any on has anything silly to say this is different country with a different culture

 

 

Right ,I've just watched that clip and I don't care what country it's in or what culture they have, baiting is baiting.

[forest of dean redneck 11,550]

me mum used to clean for a toff that had 2 wirehaireds they would go into a rabbit burrow at the back paddock kill one,then bring the rabbit back to the house and eat it.

they slept on the back of the sofa in the farmhouse kitchen which was level with the window and always barked when anyone turned up,i got some airrifle shooting there one summer and turned up when it was hot and the window was open,went to stroke the dogs through the window and one damned near took my fingers off.

[Pops 19]

Before any on has anything silly to say this is different country with a different culture

 

 

Right ,I've just watched that clip and I don't care what country it's in or what culture they have, baiting is baiting.

 

baiting is securing the animal in such a way as to prevent it's escape and then setting the dogs on it, usually until it's killed. for instance in Pakistan when they tether a bear & set the bully kuttas on it. what this is is a carefully controlled introduction of PUPS to the game they will one day hunt in such a way that NEITHER the fox nor the pups are injured. this is a legitimate training activity. i'll go you one better, even baiting (when properly done) is a legitimate training tool for young dogs to improve their survival on wild game (or your survival). for example the prueba del campo of the argentine dogos by leoneros guarantees they won't be killed by a lion that an inadequate dogo has let go. same for bulldogs catching boar in a pen first before going to the woods. both of these and similar activities are legitimate training tools that serve a useful purpose until they become the sole activity and are done for the sole purpose of entertainment.

Edited November 30, 2008 by Pops

[kiwi 4]

russell, some owner have a price structure of £650 down over, but there are lads out there who work there teckels and are not looking to make big buck and would like to see these cracking little hound made more popular, instead of being keep by a few that are trying to keep a closed shop, which can only be detremental to the breed, the folk working these dog and bringing new blood into the country, and I mean working blood it can only be better for the breed, not wanting to slag any one off, but I would hate for them to go the same way as the plummer terrier, which would not take long, these hounds should be worked and enjoyed not jelously gaurded by a few gaurdians of the breed, and let go at prices that limit ownership, and I dont want to hear "how if the price is kept up then only people that realy want to own on will by them and they wont be getting passed from owner to owner ect" if you look in the for sale ads of your local paper just how many KC reg young dog do you see being offered to new homes at a fraction of there real price that the owner only 3 or 4 months before have payed up to a grand for, I bought my teckel bitch for only £300 and she came from working stock imported from germany and belguim

 

 

We have spoke of this before!

 

Without a central register and point of contact how will lads who want one know where to get one from? You can import all the teckels you want but without someone (the teckel society) keeping their pedigree and registering the litters, it descends into hit and miss and opens it up to charlatans and puppy peddlars (passing off hybrids or KC dachshunds, or rescues or something else)

 

I advocate the Teckel society, yes the going rate for Cat A (pure imported working stock) Teckels is between £500-£650, but the society is about a stud register first and foremost and allows people to know they are getting working strain dogs and not just a look a like dog!

 

However its always teh same with economic issues, supply and demand , whilst there are only a few the price is high....the more they are the cheaper they become!

just read the breed standards thread before this one, what makes the teckel society so different from a kennel club as a source of registering dogs compo ?

[Oldand 5]

Burrow, wild boar folding and other hunting manners in which the dachshund excellent.

 

 

 

brillant my father bred smooth minatures, black and tan 40yrs since, and as kids we used to take them out they worked all sorts, and have, got some bottle, there are a couple local to me but 'they are big'

[COMPO 54]

russell, some owner have a price structure of £650 down over, but there are lads out there who work there teckels and are not looking to make big buck and would like to see these cracking little hound made more popular, instead of being keep by a few that are trying to keep a closed shop, which can only be detremental to the breed, the folk working these dog and bringing new blood into the country, and I mean working blood it can only be better for the breed, not wanting to slag any one off, but I would hate for them to go the same way as the plummer terrier, which would not take long, these hounds should be worked and enjoyed not jelously gaurded by a few gaurdians of the breed, and let go at prices that limit ownership, and I dont want to hear "how if the price is kept up then only people that realy want to own on will by them and they wont be getting passed from owner to owner ect" if you look in the for sale ads of your local paper just how many KC reg young dog do you see being offered to new homes at a fraction of there real price that the owner only 3 or 4 months before have payed up to a grand for, I bought my teckel bitch for only £300 and she came from working stock imported from germany and belguim

 

 

We have spoke of this before!

 

Without a central register and point of contact how will lads who want one know where to get one from? You can import all the teckels you want but without someone (the teckel society) keeping their pedigree and registering the litters, it descends into hit and miss and opens it up to charlatans and puppy peddlars (passing off hybrids or KC dachshunds, or rescues or something else)

 

I advocate the Teckel society, yes the going rate for Cat A (pure imported working stock) Teckels is between £500-£650, but the society is about a stud register first and foremost and allows people to know they are getting working strain dogs and not just a look a like dog!

 

However its always teh same with economic issues, supply and demand , whilst there are only a few the price is high....the more they are the cheaper they become!

just read the breed standards thread before this one, what makes the teckel society so different from a kennel club as a source of registering dogs compo ?

 

 

Have a look at the teckel society's website, it may explain itself better than i could

 

However it allows you to import a dog from a european working strain and register it with them, all teh dogs on the register are traceable and its a list of working dogs first and foremost....its not about breed standards/type etc....its a list of working dogs so that you can find a healthy working dog if you need a stud......i think the societies proper name is the "UK teckel stud book register" or such, cross bred teckels can be registered and bred from and the more teckel in them the higher up teh catergories they go, thus allowing the gene pool to be widened whilst focusing on working

 

It makes finding and tracing the working strains easier, and when there are so few in the country and they are so far flung all over the place, without a single point of contact.......finding the decent working stud near you would be impossible without someone who has a list of them all!

 

Thats what it means to me and why i support the idea, its run by a deer stalker and his wife and also the huntsman who owns the Ryeford chase and has a mixed pack of PBGV's and Teckels....not show people, not people who write standards or set out policies.....just people who hunt and work them and want to provide a service for others to find and breed the same as they have/use, for similar reasons!

 

Kiwi, edited my post to add these links

 

this is written by the secretary of the society, the deer stalkers wife i mentioned above and explains in better words than i could what the society is about and how it was started:-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sunsong/sda/teckel.htm

 

The society website:-

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sunsong/ukteckel.htm

 

Perhaps we should leave the issue of the benefits of a register here, and not hijack the lads thread about his hounds

Edited November 30, 2008 by COMPO

[Capreolus 0]

With the video of the guy hunting in Sweden, is the dog intentionally driving the deer back to him, or do you just make sure that you have a good vantage point to deal with anything that comes out?

If the dogs instinct is to drive the deer towards you then that is awsome!

How would you go about training a dog to do that?

Have just got back from Croatia wher they used what looked like Bavarian Mountain Hounds, some sort of Jagdterrier and Teckels to drive the boar.

Two dogs got pretty badly carved up by the boar on day one and there were various other minor injuries over the next two days.

There is no doubt that these dogs have a huge drive to hunt and are perfectly happy to get up close and personal with something 20 times their size.

By the way one of the most interesting and entertaining threads so far.

One of the things I find most interesting is the range of quarry and versatility of these dogs, and I dont think in this country we have fully understood the different ways that we can hunt with these dogs

[harddigging 42]

what are these teckles like to keep and work. are they quite in kennel, will they actually come back once on a line or is it a case off follow them till there done, can they be kenneld together

[Guest remmy]

heres my four year old bitch only use her for blood trailing shot deer, she's deer crazy and will work all day every day plenty of stamina.

fantastic little hounds , there a big dog in a small dogs body.

Edited November 30, 2008 by remmy

[russell tuck 127]

thanks lads thay look brill the reason i ashed about the size is were i work is a lot of rabbit warrons and i dont fancy diggin it out just for a rabbit . Do any of you lads work yours to ground and are they hard mouthed like most terreir are thank russells