WIRE DACHSHUND

[farlap 19]

Well said Labs and lurchers, this breed is going to take off over here in the next few years belive me, and working blood for abroard and not the KC stock is the only way to go, a

but you seem to be missing a vital point here john....this guy won the CAC, Best of breed and GROUP 3 AT THE WORLD SHOW THIS YEAR!!!

[labsnlurchers 39]

Well said Labs and lurchers, this breed is going to take off over here in the next few years belive me, and working blood for abroard and not the KC stock is the only way to go, a

but you seem to be missing a vital point here john....this guy won the CAC, Best of breed and GROUP 3 AT THE WORLD SHOW THIS YEAR!!!

 

I think the problem is that in this country we are all too quick to breed on pedigree rather than taking stock of the dogs traits, working and conformation go hand in hand for me be it KC registered or not. i think there are stricter rules when registering puppies so there parents have to be proven in their work. That way you are more likely to get working registered dogs that will show and work. In this country there are fewer strains of KC dogs that work and show because for some reason showing your working dog is deemed 'molly coddling' by some and working your expensive show dog is considered by some to be just too risky.

Well i do both work and show with mine (labs and lurchers) and they do both very succesfully and im proud to have such good dogs.

[manipulus 4]

The fox is a beast of prey on Hungary. In a whole year without a limitation can be shot, can be hunted. The badger has a hunting prohibition. In a whole year can be hunted the raccoon, marten dog, jackal.

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Well said Labs and lurchers, this breed is going to take off over here in the next few years belive me, and working blood for abroard and not the KC stock is the only way to go, a

but you seem to be missing a vital point here john....this guy won the CAC, Best of breed and GROUP 3 AT THE WORLD SHOW THIS YEAR!!!

 

Good point Last time I was at the all winners show in the netherlands, it was amazing how many dogs had working photos on there pens as well as rosettes, many people do both. It's just not the same here sadly

[manipulus 4]

Let me boast a little bit.

The world winner dog's a young world winner was my dog in 2006. The work on a side:

-Fox trial 15 monthly throat catch 100 dots CACT,

-Wildboar trial 100 dots CACT

-Blood trail 100 dots CACT

His son hunts with me. 18 are monthly now. There are 2 badgers and a fox already on his account.

[labsnlurchers 39]

Let me boast a little bit.

The world winner dog's a young world winner was my dog in 2006. The work on a side:

-Fox trial 15 monthly throat catch 100 dots CACT,

-Wildboar trial 100 dots CACT

-Blood trail 100 dots CACT

His son hunts with me. 18 are monthly now. There are 2 badgers and a fox already on his account.

 

Good going

Do you have many killed by their quarry?

I've had a look at the pictures on your website and i love manipulus echo.

[dog fox 16]

UK may be a burrow hunting? If yes you use underground locating one then? We Deben Long Range we use it.

 

you meen what locator system do we use ,we use deban mk 1 or the bellman and flint https://www.bellmanandflint.co.uk/ ,a lot of lads and lasses dont like the deban long range and go for the bellman ,,,,,,,think thats what you ment lol ,,,,,,,,

[john hubery 9]

In ansaw to Farlap, no I dont think I have missed the point here, there show stock and the show dachshunds in the UK are a world apart, I think I made my feelings clear on this subject in another post on the UK Teckel society, which at one point got rather heated, I still stand by what I said, no way would I want any UK KC blood in a working teckel/dachshund in my kennels, this is only my opinion but why would any one want to dilute good working blood with UK KC stock, now I dont want to take any thing away from this exellent thread, if we are going to talk of UK KC dogs lets open another thread, and keep this one going like Dog Fox this is of great intrest to me and I hope others

[dog fox 16]

i would agree with john on that one , most european countrys ,make there dogs win there certificate for showing ,if the dog doesnt make the grade by drawing something from a man made earth then its a failer and wont be bred from or shown at shows , one thing ive noticed is how far back its front legs are and how its chest sits down protecting them when its working .alot has gone into these dogs in the past ,and the europeans have bred them exackly the way they want them and a good job they have done to . so why start messing with the blood like john says and i agree with ,it would be better to go and get the same stuff and carry on what others have done for you . jmho ,,,,,,,you looked on the website you,ll see that his dogs are worked on all game aswell as shown at shows

[manipulus 4]

A little wild boar folding:

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2008 by manipulus

[manipulus 4]

UK may be a burrow hunting? If yes you use underground locating one then? We Deben Long Range we use it.

 

you meen what locator system do we use ,we use deban mk 1 or the bellman and flint https://www.bellmanandflint.co.uk/ ,a lot of lads and lasses dont like the deban long range and go for the bellman ,,,,,,,think thats what you ment lol ,,,,,,,,

 

Thanks. But Bellman not too big? Deben transmitter is much smaller. He proved competent as us very much till now. I want to order own one now because all of the team used one till now.

[manipulus 4]

 

 

[john hubery 9]

Manipulus, how much do the deben mark 3 locators cost you over there

[john hubery 9]

Dog Fox in the future I am looking to build a small pack of these hounds, to work on, well what I can, I have no intrest in paper work just hard working dogs to hard working dogs, watch this space

[manipulus 4]

Manipulus, how much do the deben mark 3 locators cost you over there

 

It is not possible to receive it unfortunately here. Deben we order.