getting lurcher fit

[Tiff 36]

LOL gotta love basically being called a liar? you can check my or Kye's posts for more pics if you'd like, you seem to doubt everything I've said, we run a pretty varied and large amount of quarry here over some drastic terrain and need fit dogs. 2 are staghound, 1 is a stag/grey X, 1 is a grey/saluki/stag X

 

ps forgot until Kye reminded me about when Ratkilla off this forum came over from UK for a months hunting holiday last season and they roaded the dogs 23 miles one night, then had a coon about a mile from the house

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2008 by His Wife

[Guest mickyrich]

nice looking dogs you have there but still don't see why they need too be hammered like you are doing 90% of all dogs i've known or owned are at peak fitnesss with 6 mile roadwork a day and a few days/nights work 20 mile a night just gonna wear there pads thin and leave them drained but no knocking you if it works for you

[Guest mickyrich]

they don't do that every night for 5/6 months, they work up to that, they do that number of miles for a couple of weeks at the top end the season. Yes it takes time, it's lucky we enjoy our time together. They normally have some quarry along the way, I had a coon last night with them at mile 9 with a mile left to come back to the house. Right now they are at 10 miles a night, tongues hang for a few minutes once we are back, then they are good to go again (if we were so inclined).

 

if they run something hard before the end they obviously don't road the rest of the way, and if we decide to go lamping, they don't road that night.

And as for terrain try the durham dales the land all your pics are on are flat like the fens the dales are 100 times worse and every man in the north east of ENGLAND will agree

[mikecat1 0]

Nice looking dogs mate !! well as i always say "each to there own" i live 1800 ft up the mountains in mid wales. i have a grayhoundxwhippet grayhoundxsaluki, i dred to think what shes like fit as shes way to fast for this area as it is.

she goes down hill so fast its a bit worrying sometimes, hits the rabbits at a right speed. we do have bigger ones but not alot.

i bought her from the midland and was told she runs the big ears v well but ill have to wait to see one before i find that out for myself.

good hunting boys

[prohunter 0]

I have got to agree with you there micky, in that area there is alot of ups and downs lol not much of this flat stuff

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

20 miles a night, i think this is great if you want to knock a few inches tts of there poor little legs

[Tiff 36]

to each their own, our dogs happiness, training, fitness, lack of regular injury and sheer number and variety of quarry taken speak for themselves.

[Tiff 36]

just gonna wear there pads thin

 

that's why they are worked UP to 20 miles over about 3 months, their pads need to be quite hard to run the gravel roads, the first couple of weeks at a few miles slow pace they are sore, after the first month we never have dogs laid up for torn/cut pads etc.

[Guest proudy]

I have a bitch that I thought I'd sickened on rabbits as she started 2 pull up on a few when they hit hegdes, etc. She's a bull x but thinking like a bloody collie x. Different dog when a hare gets up as she knows the game is on & will hit cover after it. I prefer a dog that'll die trying but thats the way she turned out, jack of all trades, master of none but she puts all game in the bag & is an honest bitch.

[Guest mickyrich]

In my opinion mate I would get a good first season in on the rabbits an nothing else just to get her some confidence and a ground knowledge of what to do with running the game in her advantage. That is my advice but other people might say different.

 

IF YOU WANT A DOG FOR HARES THEN ONLY RUN THEM ON HARES , RUNNING A HARE DOG ON RABBITS WILL RUIN HIM !!!!

I disagree totally with you p***y i think any dog will only gain expierience off catching rabbits as a rabbit where i am from barely run 25 yards and a dog that takes plenty of these it will no doubt improve its strike , my opinion

 

WELL MICKRICH YOU GAVE YOUR OPINION AND ITS NOT THE CORRECT REPLY YOU GIVE A PERSON THAT WANTS TO RUN HARES...........YOU TAKE A DOG OUT HUNTING RABBITS AND THE DOG WILL TRY HIS BEST TO CATCH THEM, AFTER A WHILE A GOOD DOG GET TO LEARN NOT TO RUN RABBITS AT FULL SPEED AS THEY HEAD FOR A DITCH, SOME WILL SLOW UP HEADING A FEW YARDS FROM THE BURROW, NOW TELL ME WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF DOG GAVE A GREAT COURSE AND THE HARE WENT FLYING ..............TOWARDS THE DITCH..............WILL THE DOG SLOW UP...............DOGS COURSING RABBITS WILL.........DOGS KEPT ON HARES............WONT THEY WILL CRASH THE DITCH LIKE A BULLET........YOU GET MY POINT .

I get the theory part of your comment but i have 2 saluki/ghounds and they do very well never jacked at a hedge yet and guess what they were brought up on rabbits

[Kye 77]

Hi MR,..

 

The male brindle staghound in the pictures is mine,...in his first season in the desert, he was about 19 months he done 73 hares single handed, MANY more doubled up, and many, many more on the lamp...he has done 2/3, daytime, run solo...one run being 5.30min long, the other being about 5mins...both retreaved.

 

Ive been on the dales, and its hilly...its tough terrain for the UK...but it is NOTHING compared to the deserts of south western america...rock, scree, cactuss, joshua trees etc make for VERY hard ground...the ground is baked clay, and the weather that baked it is often over 100F...so when i say baked, i mean hard ground!..lol.

 

Thank god i dont have to deal with that shit anymore!...the ground we run now is deep ditches, medium sized fields (BIG buy UK standards!) and when the dogs run it, its often frozen rock solid...f*****g barb wire everywhere, hate that stuff!..

 

The running dogs HAVE to be fit here...there are guys here who dont get there dogs fit, and they often get out run etc, which of course can happen to anyone!...but i think that good feeding, and condistioning is essential!

 

My dogs can be dumped on a coyote, at a distance of 1/4 mile, run it for a 1 1/2mile and kill it...they can do hares in REAL bad terrain, they can lamp cottontail rabbits all night...they can catch and kill coon...work with terriers all day...we may have a dog out all day with terreirs catching and drawing game, then have it out on the lamp all night...one days rest and a belly full of grub, and there out again (barring being swollen and sore,...we dont work dogs sore from quarry)

 

Im not bigging the dogs up, they 'aint great, they are just used on everything, and are jack of all trades...but they get used alot!...the fact that they are still 'sound' and injury free, is down to good management imo...and of course VERY good breeding buy the guy whom we got the dogs from (free of charge as it happens,...a better dog man would be hard to meet!)...

 

Just as an after thought, we give our terriers six miles, and that as well as being worked...just had a youngish terrier dog do work up in Iowa for 2 1/2 days on some jumbo coon (averaging 25-35lbs) and another dog of mine...the younger dog worked two days and done ok for his first outing, and the older dog done ten coon, then re-dislocated his leg, from an old injury...we are looking into surgery for the dog.

 

I have competed in combat sports, and the LAST thing i want to worry about is going into the fight, wondering 'IF' im in shape,...i HAVE fought un-prepaired, and it is HORRIBLE!...i just wouldnt do that to my dogs...they have to have there mind on the job, running down there quarry, and getting it dealt with!...

 

Each to there own, but what we do works for us, and we get the results!..

 

All the best..

 

Kye,..

[munsterlurcher 0]

Hi MR,..

 

The male brindle staghound in the pictures is mine,...in his first season in the desert, he was about 19 months he done 73 hares single handed, MANY more doubled up, and many, many more on the lamp...he has done 2/3, daytime, run solo...one run being 5.30min long, the other being about 5mins...both retreaved.

 

Ive been on the dales, and its hilly...its tough terrain for the UK...but it is NOTHING compared to the deserts of south western america...rock, scree, cactuss, joshua trees etc make for VERY hard ground...the ground is baked clay, and the weather that baked it is often over 100F...so when i say baked, i mean hard ground!..lol.

 

Thank god i dont have to deal with that shit anymore!...the ground we run now is deep ditches, medium sized fields (BIG buy UK standards!) and when the dogs run it, its often frozen rock solid...f*****g barb wire everywhere, hate that stuff!..

 

The running dogs HAVE to be fit here...there are guys here who dont get there dogs fit, and they often get out run etc, which of course can happen to anyone!...but i think that good feeding, and condistioning is essential!

 

My dogs can be dumped on a coyote, at a distance of 1/4 mile, run it for a 1 1/2mile and kill it...they can do hares in REAL bad terrain, they can lamp cottontail rabbits all night...they can catch and kill coon...work with terriers all day...we may have a dog out all day with terreirs catching and drawing game, then have it out on the lamp all night...one days rest and a belly full of grub, and there out again (barring being swollen and sore,...we dont work dogs sore from quarry)

 

Im not bigging the dogs up, they 'aint great, they are just used on everything, and are jack of all trades...but they get used alot!...the fact that they are still 'sound' and injury free, is down to good management imo...and of course VERY good breeding buy the guy whom we got the dogs from (free of charge as it happens,...a better dog man would be hard to meet!)...

 

Just as an after thought, we give our terriers six miles, and that as well as being worked...just had a youngish terrier dog do work up in Iowa for 2 1/2 days on some jumbo coon (averaging 25-35lbs) and another dog of mine...the younger dog worked two days and done ok for his first outing, and the older dog done ten coon, then re-dislocated his leg, from an old injury...we are looking into surgery for the dog.

 

I have competed in combat sports, and the LAST thing i want to worry about is going into the fight, wondering 'IF' im in shape,...i HAVE fought un-prepaired, and it is HORRIBLE!...i just wouldnt do that to my dogs...they have to have there mind on the job, running down there quarry, and getting it dealt with!...

 

Each to there own, but what we do works for us, and we get the results!..

 

All the best..

 

Kye,..

ok thanks guys