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[woolyback rider 0]

by the way wooly.the vet must have his own lab ,to be able to do blood tests over night ,usualy takes a few days [hope the vet was telling the truith ]...

 

I'm not trying to question what you know about dogs and blood test do tend to take a few days at least to come through, but you can get test blood sugar levels in seconds.

 

My brother is a diabetic and all it takes is a little drop of blood on a little strip that you wang into a device that reads whether or not your blood sugar levels are high or low, it literally takes seconds to find out.

 

I shouldn't imagine that it'd change that dramatically to test a dogs blood sugar levels.

this is all so true mate.he can also do basic test on site if it is a large vets

[Guest MY LAW]

by the way wooly.the vet must have his own lab ,to be able to do blood tests over night ,usualy takes a few days [hope the vet was telling the truith ]...

 

I'm not trying to question what you know about dogs and blood test do tend to take a few days at least to come through, but you can get test blood sugar levels in seconds.

 

My brother is a diabetic and all it takes is a little drop of blood on a little strip that you wang into a device that reads whether or not your blood sugar levels are high or low, it literally takes seconds to find out.

 

I shouldn't imagine that it'd change that dramatically to test a dogs blood sugar levels.

and i would imagen the sugar levels would be all over the shop due to any poisioning ,just my thoughts , end of the mater for me .it could go on and on . Edited November 26, 2008 by MY LAW

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

by the way wooly.the vet must have his own lab ,to be able to do blood tests over night ,usualy takes a few days [hope the vet was telling the truith ]...

 

I'm not trying to question what you know about dogs and blood test do tend to take a few days at least to come through, but you can get test blood sugar levels in seconds.

 

My brother is a diabetic and all it takes is a little drop of blood on a little strip that you wang into a device that reads whether or not your blood sugar levels are high or low, it literally takes seconds to find out.

 

I shouldn't imagine that it'd change that dramatically to test a dogs blood sugar levels.

and i would imagen the sugar levels would be all over the shop due to any poisioning ,just my thoughts ,

 

Yeah mate, I fully understand what you're saying and that could well be the case, but I was just saying that it doesn't take long to test sugar levels in the blood if you were just testing the sugar levels.

 

I will also say that I appreciate the advice you've given on this thread, cheers .

[woolyback rider 0]

MY LAW i was just checking though some medical books i have and there is not one form of poisoning(that i can find) which will cause the sugar level to drop to a dangerously low level.i am not going to stretch this out anymore but this is my findings.

 

if anyone on this site knows of any poisons or of a vet to change my findings please correct me and we'll all be able to sleep peacefully.

 

yours the woolyback.

[Guest MY LAW]

MY LAW i was just checking though some medical books i have and there is not one form of poisoning(that i can find) which will cause the sugar level to drop to a dangerously low level.i am not going to stretch this out anymore but this is my findings.

 

if anyone on this site knows of any poisons or of a vet to change my findings please correct me and we'll all be able to sleep peacefully.

 

yours the woolyback.

wooly ,now you bring it to a different level and it looks like we are both going to get a bit more educated on this matter ,i was hoping to put it to bed but if you insist then i will have to oblige with finding out all i can to help ,lets start by you giving me the names of the books you looked through and the authors ,so i can make sure you have not over looked any thing ,because one thing i dont do is get much sleep ,it is some thing to do with the amount of years being out all night when posible ,you most certainly have made me take a different out look on the type of person i thought you were after reading your reply on how to get a dog to jump ,when you wrote [keep puling it over it will soon learn ]i wait with my pop corn in hand for your reply.

[Guest chook]

Xyatol poisoning can cause sugar levels to drop, but from doing some reading thats the only thing that can,

but if it was poisoning, there would have been other symptoms first, seizures would probably be one of the last symptoms to happen.

 

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetme...e=&pageID=3

 

but there is another condition that ive read about which sounds simler as described,

Hunting dog hypoglycemia,

its the first time ive heard of if - so i dont think its that well reported on.

 

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dhypogly.html

[woolyback rider 0]

Xyatol poisoning can cause sugar levels to drop, but from doing some reading thats the only thing that can,

but if it was poisoning, there would have been other symptoms first, seizures would probably be one of the last symptoms to happen.

 

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetme...e=&pageID=3

 

but there is another condition that ive read about which sounds simler as described,

Hunting dog hypoglycemia,

its the first time ive heard of if - so i dont think its that well reported on.

 

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dhypogly.html

thanks CHOOK ,glad to see someone with a bit of sence reading this thread.if possible could you find out if Xyatol is contained in the chemicals used to spray spuds(as i cant find what spray is used) THANKS again CHOOK

[Guest MY LAW]

Xyatol poisoning can cause sugar levels to drop, but from doing some reading thats the only thing that can,

but if it was poisoning, there would have been other symptoms first, seizures would probably be one of the last symptoms to happen.

 

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetme...e=&pageID=3

 

but there is another condition that ive read about which sounds simler as described,

Hunting dog hypoglycemia,

its the first time ive heard of if - so i dont think its that well reported on.

 

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dhypogly.html

thanks CHOOK ,glad to see someone with a bit of sence reading this thread.if possible could you find out if Xyatol is contained in the chemicals used to spray spuds(as i cant find what spray is used) THANKS again CHOOK

what was the books you were looking at wooly .and the info you got from them .

[Guest MY LAW]

just one or two things used on the spuds ,FUNGISIDES,HURBOSIDS,ie NURON..these are just treatments to kill of other infections on the spuds .then to kill the tops off you got SULFURIC ACID,HYDROCHLORIC ACID ,then the most toxic of them all DIQUAT .[im not sure of the spelling of them ]plus some other stuff to combat other diseses that atack the spuds ,so i wonder what they all add up to in one big coctail like they do when all used on the same field ???lucky they dont use PARAQUAT any more or the vet would not have got to see the dog .unless it was for a ortopsy.

Edited November 26, 2008 by MY LAW

[Guest chook]

Xyatol poisoning can cause sugar levels to drop, but from doing some reading thats the only thing that can,

but if it was poisoning, there would have been other symptoms first, seizures would probably be one of the last symptoms to happen.

 

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetme...e=&pageID=3

 

but there is another condition that ive read about which sounds simler as described,

Hunting dog hypoglycemia,

its the first time ive heard of if - so i dont think its that well reported on.

 

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dhypogly.html

thanks CHOOK ,glad to see someone with a bit of sence reading this thread.if possible could you find out if Xyatol is contained in the chemicals used to spray spuds(as i cant find what spray is used) THANKS again CHOOK

 

Xyatol is a sugar replacement, so i doubt it would be used in any chemical used for spuds or any other fruit or veg for that matter,

its normally in gum and anything that says sugar free, its supposed to be good for teeth though lol,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol

 

one thing it has been noted to be in - is some products for cleaning dogs teeth,

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/index.php?main_page...roducts_id=1349

 

 

Theres not much info i can find on crop sprays, as theres a hell of a lot of different types - that could be used,

 

the only one i could find is this, there is no info on it to state it causes hypoglycemia

http://www.prentiss.com/msds/pdf/655_489.pdf

 

i don't have time - but some sites that you could find useful

http://www.hse.gov.uk/coshh/

http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/

http://www.soilassociation.org/

[woolyback rider 0]

just one or two things used on the spuds ,FUNGISIDES,HURBOSIDS,ie NURON..these are just treatments to kill of other infections on the spuds .then to kill the tops off you got SULFURIC ACID,HYDROCHLORIC ACID ,then the most toxic of them all DIQUAT .[im not sure of the spelling of them ]plus some other stuff to combat other diseses that atack the spuds ,so i wonder what they all add up to in one big coctail like they do when all used on the same field ???lucky they dont use PARAQUAT any more or the vet would not have got to see the dog .unless it was for a ortopsy.

right then the fungisideds etc. are used when the spuds are growing and the acid base chemicals use to kill the tops off(as i said they used) if freshly sprayed would have caused vomiting,swelling and redness(as said before) also dont you think a cocktail of all the chemicals used(if still in the ground) would make the spuds unconsumable to humans aswell as to livestock.

[Guest MY LAW]

just one or two things used on the spuds ,FUNGISIDES,HURBOSIDS,ie NURON..these are just treatments to kill of other infections on the spuds .then to kill the tops off you got SULFURIC ACID,HYDROCHLORIC ACID ,then the most toxic of them all DIQUAT .[im not sure of the spelling of them ]plus some other stuff to combat other diseses that atack the spuds ,so i wonder what they all add up to in one big coctail like they do when all used on the same field ???lucky they dont use PARAQUAT any more or the vet would not have got to see the dog .unless it was for a ortopsy.

right then the fungisideds etc. are used when the spuds are growing and the acid base chemicals use to kill the tops off(as i said they used) if freshly sprayed would have caused vomiting,swelling and redness(as said before) also dont you think a cocktail of all the chemicals used(if still in the ground) would make the spuds unconsumable to humans aswell as to livestock.

the stuff used does not go into the food chain ,it does not travel down the frongs ,but it does stay in the soil for a long time that is why the fields have to be rotated each year to grow diferent crops because some are more suseptable than others and it also gives the soil chance to recover.that is why you will see some fields aloud to go wild .

[Guest MY LAW]

wooly the field was sprayed weeks before the dogs where in there ,the owner of the one dog told me he saw the dog that was ill drink from a tractor rut and there was a film on the water that he thought was diesel ,all i said was what i have writen about on here it POSIBLY was down to poision like the first vet had mentiond ,we will never know who is right and who is wrong with out the blood that was taken from the dog being submited to a toxin test ,but has the dog drank from a contamainated pool of water then it is a good chance that it had some thing to do with it ,i have witnesed a similar thing 3 times before once with a dog belonging to me and 2 times with fox hounds out hunting and each time the dogs in question had drank from water in a spud field containing spuds that had been sprayed .

[woolyback rider 0]

your getting into crop rotation now(something i haven't done since collage)don't make me get the agriculture books out i haven't got the time at the moment check out the links CHOOK has put up give you something to do perhaps you might learn something

[Guest MY LAW]

your getting into crop rotation now(something i haven't done since collage)don't make me get the agriculture books out i haven't got the time at the moment check out the links CHOOK has put up give you something to do perhaps you might learn something

i know enough to keep me doing what i do that is all i need to know ,ATB les.