DEERMAN 1,020 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Well the shit has hit the fan in england and its certainly not english people being put first ! How do you define 'english'? If a french family moved to Britain a few generations ago, and their grandchildren looked 'english' spoke 'english' and did so on, would they still be foreign? Don't forget that Hitler blamed everyone who wasn't 'germanic' for their problems in the 1930's. Look what happened then. When the nazi party first came about in Germany, people there talked about them the same way as many do about the BNP now... what do muslims want? have you read the koran (thier bible) if you dont see it thier way then you get killed , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 If a french family moved to Britain a few generations ago, and their grandchildren looked 'english' spoke 'english' and did so on, would they still be foreign? Don't forget that Hitler blamed everyone who wasn't 'germanic' for their problems in the 1930's. Look what happened then. When the nazi party first came about in Germany, people there talked about them the same way as many do about the BNP now...[/color][/size][/font] Why is hitler brought into any conversation about pride in your country i dont get it....the bnp dont blame foreigners for the shit in this country at the moment,they blame the people who allow it to happen ( white english people mostly )....you cannot blame these people for coming here when we welcome them with open arms its human nature,but human nature works both ways and some of us dont welcome them but we are forced to have a hand over our mouth so as not to offend them in our own country ! There is no reason to define " english " thats another ridiculous question always thrown in by people trying to win a historical argument and the future concerns me more than the past.....to be honest i dont have any real problems with foreigners as long as they are foreigners of our choice....why shouldnt we be allowed to choose who we share our lives with,i have no problem with the dutch,french,danish,swedes or many other europeans even the poles to a degree.....BUT the ones we share no common ground with and have no traditional links and in most cases cant even have a conversation with....then why should we be forced to live among them when we represent everything they hate....and we,re in england !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan 11 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 FOR A LONG TIME IVE TRYED TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN NOT BE TIDE WITH THE SAME BRUSH IM A TRAVLER IM PROUD OF IT AND I AM BRITISH I AM FROM A MINORITY AND IVE SEEN RACISM FIRST HAND ONE MANY OCCASSIONS ON BOTH SIDES IT GETS YOU NO WHERE AS FOR PEOPLE INVADEING WORKERS THATS IS WELL DIDNT WE DO THAT TO GERMANY IN ARE LAST RESSETION IF I COULD GET BETTER MONEY IN ANOTHER COUNTRY TO HELP MY FAMILY I WOULD SO GOOD LUCK TO THEM FOR TRYING AS A COUNTRY I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE IT HARDER TO HELP THE PEOPLE HERE BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE TO LAZY TO WORK NOW AS FOR THE HATE SHOUTERS SAYING WE SHOULD LIVE THERE WAY AND HOW WE SHOULD DIE WELL SIMPLE f**k THEM OF NOW YOU WOULDNT LET A MAN WITH A KNIFE IN YOUR HOUSE SO WHY WE LETTING THESE PEOPLE IN ARE COUNTRY BECOUSE THEY ARE TELLING US WE WONT YOU DEAD AND WE REPLY CAN YOU GET YOUR BENNEFITS ON TUESDAY PLEASE WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT GET RID WHEN IN ROME DO WHAT THE ROMANS DO NOT CONVERT THEM BOLLUCKS BUT IF WE WANT A BETTER LIFE FOR ARE CHILDREN WE MUST START TO CHANGE LEARN OF EACHOTHERS STRONG POINTS AND NOT JUDGE AS A GROUP HATE SPREEDS HATE HASNT ARE PAST TOLD US THAT IM NOT IN BNP OR ANYOTHER GROUP AND NEVER WOULD BECOUSE I SEEN WHAT IT CAN DO FIRST HAND WE MUST UP FOR OUR SELFS BUT ALSO CHANGE WE AINT IN THE DARK AGES ONE THING I HEAR A LOT IS MY DOGS WERE STOLEN IT WAS KACKERS WELL EVEN IF IT WAS IT WAS NOT ALL OF US ONE OF MY COUSINS ONCE HAD HIS CARAVAN RAMBED BUY A TRANSIT VAN FULL OF SKIN HEAD NAZI HE HAD LITTLE CHILDREN THEY ALL LIVED THATS WHAT LITTLE MINDS DO BULLIES BUT WE DIDNT TAKE IT OUT ON EVERY GORGI NON TRAVLER IN SIGHT WE CANT JUGDE ALL ONLY ONE PERSON AT A TIME FOR THE ACTS THEY DO NOT THERE PEOPLE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why is hitler brought into any conversation about pride in your country i dont get it....the bnp dont blame foreigners for the shit in this country at the moment,they blame the people who allow it to happen ( white english people mostly )....you cannot blame these people for coming here when we welcome them with open arms its human nature,but human nature works both ways and some of us dont welcome them but we are forced to have a hand over our mouth so as not to offend them in our own country !There is no reason to define " english " thats another ridiculous question always thrown in by people trying to win a historical argument and the future concerns me more than the past.....to be honest i dont have any real problems with foreigners as long as they are foreigners of our choice....why shouldnt we be allowed to choose who we share our lives with,i have no problem with the dutch,french,danish,swedes or many other europeans even the poles to a degree.....BUT the ones we share no common ground with and have no traditional links and in most cases cant even have a conversation with....then why should we be forced to live among them when we represent everything they hate....and we,re in england !! If you are going to put 'english' people first, you will need to define them. History is important. That's how we stop people making the same mistakes that cost millions of lives. The link to Nazi's and Hitler is also valid. They had theories about putting their own people first, and blaming sections of society for their problems. Is it a coincidence that the foreign peoples you have no 'problem with' are predominantly white? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 on a lighter note, the way this nation is heading, how long will it be before we see this afternoon's rugby displayed as "England V The All Non-Whites"? I replied to a music thread on another site and was quoting lyrics from a song by John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band, that had the title "Woman Is Nigger Of The World" and the title was removed, so we're well on the way there already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) im not sure if has been put up but here is a proximity search for bnp in your area . it does work as a couple of people i know are on there http://www.fishmech.net/bnp/ oh and here is the original list i cant help feeling sorry for the peoples families now http://wikileaks.org.uk/leak/bnp-membership-list.txt Edited November 22, 2008 by chimp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zig zag wanderer 0 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) The main problem is a cultural one. The colour of the skin is irrelevant. This is why a second or third generation French family would fit in better than the a third generation muslim for example. Like cultures will integrate. Contrasting ones won't. When our society realises that multi-culturalism doesn't work and will never work then we can start to solve the race/culture problems in society. Unfortunately the PC brigade want multi-culturalism to work and impose anti-discrimination laws and positive discrimination upon us all. The same people (Haringey council being the worst) who censored and banned certain words in our nursery rhymes and story books and banned whole books that generations had enjoyed. Now if you want to bring Hitler into the equasion Matt, the censoring of school books by government is a bloody close parallel. The BNP's central policy principle is to uphold the British culture and reject mult-culturalism which dilutes our own culture. Sadly the PC brigade have brain-washed society into thinking that those of us who reject multi-culturalism in favour of our own culture are vile racists. So much so apparently that a serving policeman or teacher holding these very mild views has no right to a job in our society anymore. Remember when we were battling to save hunting one of our justifications was that it was part of our culture. Is it me or is there something very wrong at the heart of the principles of our society where we can let these PC weirdos bring down our society like this, branding honest patriots as racists at the same time? Edited November 22, 2008 by zig zag wanderer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 The main problem is a cultural one. The colour of the skin is irrelevant. This is why a second or third generation French family would fit in better than the a third generation muslim for example. Like cultures will integrate. Contrasting ones won't. When our society realises that multi-culturalism doesn't work and will never work then we can start to solve the race/culture problems in society. Unfortunately the PC brigade want multi-culturalism to work and impose anti-discrimination laws and positive discrimination upon us all. The same people (Haringey council being the worst) who censored and banned certain words in our nursery rhymes and story books and banned whole books that generations had enjoyed. Now if you want to bring Hitler into the equasion Matt, the censoring of school books by government is a bloody close parallel. The BNP's central policy principle is to uphold the British culture and reject mult-culturalism which dilutes our own culture. Sadly the PC brigade have brain-washed society into thinking that those of us who reject multi-culturalism in favour of our own culture are vile racists. So much so apparently that a serving policeman or teacher holding these very mild views has no right to a job in our society anymore. Is it me or is there something very wrong at the heart of the principles of our society where we can let these PC weirdos bring down our society like this, branding honest patriots as racists at the same time? the same brigade operate throughout the whole criminal justice system, including the old H.M.P establishments. Say a son/daughter of a well known useful to society arse licking family was caught with their hand in the till in some Islamic country, now no matter who they were, they'd be minus a limb. Reverse the tables, ti would be dragged about some feckin "gentlemens clubs" for a few years until some sort of back door (quite a good name for the said clubs in more ways than one) feckin deal is struck, the family member cops a plea bargain, their wrists are slapped rather than cut feckin off and if they're really unlucky spend some time at her majesty's pleasure in the feckin hospital wing..................................and that is FACT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Like many of you, I am against multiculturism. America have it, and as a result, have no culture. What people fail to understand is that we live in a multiracial society, and always have. You can't talk about putting one section of a society in front of another unless you define it, and by doing that, you are doing exactly what the nazis did. Now lets just put things into perspecive. Some of you are probobly reading this and thinking that I am some sort of left wing liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth. But what I will never condone, is the bully boy tactics of the BNP and some of its predeasors. To suggest that one section of society is somehow more important than another is fundementally wrong. Do I think that we are overpopulated? Yes. Do I think that demonising a section of society is right? No. The best thing that could be done to stop our overpopulation is to stop paying benefits to people who have more children. I've seen families who've never worked, and never will, who use their ability to reproduce to increase their income. Why are these members of the BNP so worried about their names being released? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 If you are going to put 'english' people first, you will need to define them. History is important. That's how we stop people making the same mistakes that cost millions of lives. The link to Nazi's and Hitler is also valid. They had theories about putting their own people first, and blaming sections of society for their problems. Is it a coincidence that the foreign peoples you have no 'problem with' are predominantly white? You can call it coincidence if you like i couldnt care less....personally id call it common sense...europe is a predominantly white continent so it stands to reason really......i say again,what has nazis or hitler got to do with any and every argument concerning pride in your country.......its like having a conversation about boxing and only talking about muhammed ali because he was the best known boxer ever its ridiculous and a desperate subject the dogooders throw in to try and make a normal proud englishman sound like a hateful sadistic nutcase !! You talk about not wanting a multicultural society being the same as what the nazis did ???...dont be so ridiculous...you say your interested in the history,well go and read some of it then.....proud english people dont want to gas any segment of the countries population theres a big difference between not welcoming foreigners and killing them would you agree ! Why is it fundamentally wrong to see one section of society more important than another...its absolutely natural....if i walk into your front room and start using your household items and kipping down on your sofa will you make me welcome or kick me out ? i mean i might need your help after all ?....now couple this with the fact that i cannot communicate with you,respect nothing you respect,have totally different understandings of life and in fact truly despise eveything you stand for.....i really think human nature might kick in and you would want me gone and to not return.....well its happening in our communities every day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 BNP? All racists. FACT!!! End of............ This thread could go on for days, to the army boy who fought in the army, well DISGRACE TO YOU! How on earth could you go out there killing, cutting hair, fixing exhausts, polishing your boots, whatever your role was knowing you are in the BNP........LOLOLOLOL What a fking joke!!!! And still this thread is on going! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 The main problem is a cultural one. The colour of the skin is irrelevant. This is why a second or third generation French family would fit in better than the a third generation muslim for example. Like cultures will integrate. Contrasting ones won't. When our society realises that multi-culturalism doesn't work and will never work then we can start to solve the race/culture problems in society. Unfortunately the PC brigade want multi-culturalism to work and impose anti-discrimination laws and positive discrimination upon us all. The same people (Haringey council being the worst) who censored and banned certain words in our nursery rhymes and story books and banned whole books that generations had enjoyed. Now if you want to bring Hitler into the equasion Matt, the censoring of school books by government is a bloody close parallel. The BNP's central policy principle is to uphold the British culture and reject mult-culturalism which dilutes our own culture. Sadly the PC brigade have brain-washed society into thinking that those of us who reject multi-culturalism in favour of our own culture are vile racists. So much so apparently that a serving policeman or teacher holding these very mild views has no right to a job in our society anymore. Remember when we were battling to save hunting one of our justifications was that it was part of our culture. Is it me or is there something very wrong at the heart of the principles of our society where we can let these PC weirdos bring down our society like this, branding honest patriots as racists at the same time? Now if i had a few more braincells thats how i would have put it ......perfect post mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 BNP? All racists. FACT!!! End of............ This thread could go on for days, to the army boy who fought in the army, well DISGRACE TO YOU! How on earth could you go out there killing, cutting hair, fixing exhausts, polishing your boots, whatever your role was knowing you are in the BNP........LOLOLOLOL What a fking joke!!!! And still this thread is on going! wrong, we are not all racists , and why shouldnt this thread keep going ???? just because you dont like it and maybe not to your taste, this is for general talk is it not ?? no one is argueing or causing trouble, so i cant see any harm . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) BNP? All racists. FACT!!! End of............ That's the thing though see? That's YOUR opinion, it's not 'FACT!' and 'end of' like you claim it is. It's the constant failure to debate matters such as this in an open manner, and the constant way in which those who don't share the same opinions as those who shout loudest are decried as racists, haters, etc, that give rise to entities such as the BNP. It's like the way that we're told something 'might' upset a certain group of people, so we mustn't do it. In my opinion, the people who cause most mischief, are not people like the BNP, immigrants, ethnic minorities, etc, it's the mostly white, left wing dictators that try to tell us what it is that these minorities are offended by. They cause division where there would be none. If I was in a minority, I could take it one of two ways; 1) I could be offended by the patronising way that I'm being told what to be offended by, or 2) I could use it to my advantage to gain employment, compensation, etc. Edited November 22, 2008 by maltenby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 BNP? All racists. FACT!!! End of............ This thread could go on for days, to the army boy who fought in the army, well DISGRACE TO YOU! How on earth could you go out there killing, cutting hair, fixing exhausts, polishing your boots, whatever your role was knowing you are in the BNP........LOLOLOLOL What a fking joke!!!! And still this thread is on going! wrong, we are not all racists , and why shouldnt this thread keep going ???? just because you dont like it and maybe not to your taste, this is for general talk is it not ?? no one is argueing or causing trouble, so i cant see any harm . totally agree, this is a discussion and nowt else but what is wrong is when some members get personal and that is all you do "arctic" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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