csme55ex 2 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 is it true if you dont breed your jills thay will get ill and maybe die ? Quote Link to post
Cornio 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) You're right. A jill will stay in season until it has been mated with. I think the term is 'induced ovulator' which means that they won't produce an egg until they've been mated with. The vulva will become swollen/sore and high levels of oestrogen will bring on anemia. I think the best thing is to get her neutered as some of the other solutions ultimately won't do her any good. I don't know what sort of time period is ok for leaving a jill (safely) in season. Edited November 19, 2008 by Cornio Quote Link to post
diggermad 154 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 if you have a hob mate get him vasectomised cost around £45 but well worth it mate cheers DM Quote Link to post
csme55ex 2 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 if you have a hob mate get him vasectomised cost around £45 but well worth it mate cheers DM there only young and have been in season once thats when i herd about it off some one and that was fine after thay stoped being in season ... but im gonna get a hob soon and get his vasectomised for when thay come in season next time thanks for the infomation Quote Link to post
diggermad 154 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 no worries DM Quote Link to post
badgeroy 3 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can also get them jill jabs, takes them out of season. Quote Link to post
csme55ex 2 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can also get them jill jabs, takes them out of season. what would you have to give them jabs every time before thay go in season or is it just one jab ? and do you have any idea of much them jabs cost ? Quote Link to post
lorelei0922 2 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's the deal... when a ferret comes into season she'll stay in season through out the summer unless brought out by SOME means... as a result she is prone to picking up nasty infections ( which can be .. but not always ARE .. avoided by keeping her hutch/court scrupulously clean) or she May... develope something called aplastic anema which is a disease that attacks the ferret's bone marrow and can kill her. This is more likely in ferrets who go through several long seasons without being bred... so how do you avoid this... there are several options here.. 1.. like i said keep her super clean and seperated during her seasons and take the chances... lots do it year in and year out with no problems... but then i know personally several who have lost a jill in their first season this way... which with either A.. cost you nothin cause she dies.. or LOTS because you spend half the time at the vets lining THEIR pockets. 2.. Use a vasectomised hob... this is a hob who's had the snip snip.. same as Men of the human species have to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. and just like in Men, the hob will do the job... and bring her out of season.. but no kits will come of it. The costs vary from vet to vet and depend on the part of the country you live in.. Here in Devon my vet is charging me £37.50 for a Vasectomy. Draw backs of this method... sometimes the op doesn't work and you end up with kits you didn't plan and waste the money for the op... or it works fine but the jills goes into a phantom pregnancy and promptly comes back into season in 6 weeks time... and lastly.. there is the possiblity of passing on sexually transmitted diseases especially if you "borrow" a vasectomised hob from a friend... 3.. Get a jill jab... this is a hormone your vet can give her... this will bring her safely out of season.. the cost again varies.. i've seen anything from £3 per ferret per jab to £20 so you wanna shop around. Drawbacks... just like with a vasectomised hob, she may simply have a false pregancy and come right back into season needing more jabs. Also many vets prefer to only give 1 jill jab per ferret in her lifetime due to the chemicals involved. Again you'll need to shop around and talk to your vet. 4. Mate her with a suitable hob. This is sticky territory.. if you dont know what you are doing regarding genetics and care and raising a litter and also make plans to responsibly either keep up to 13 from a single jill or rehome them.. you have no business breeding a ferret! Costs will be MUCH more than you expect. By the time she is 4 weeks along the jill will be eating up to double her food intake and that will continue through day 42ish when she delivers her kits and through their weaning at about 5 weeks by which time she'll again still need more food because of the energy nursing all these kits is taking out of her. The cost of feeding up weaning kits is a lot as well and they can quite literally eat you out of house and home before they are even old enough to head off to new homes. 5... Spay her... This is the easiest long term option in my opinion. Again costs vary, my vet charges £30 for jills but i've seen silly ammounts of upwards £90 for a simple spay. Pro's of this option are no worries about season related illnesses or making arrangements or dealing with false pregnancies or kits. Its a one time charge so no repeated bills. the right choice for SOME isn't the right choice for everyone so weigh your options.. talk to knowledgable people and consult a vet... Make the choice that is right for YOU... good luck with your jill! Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's the deal... when a ferret comes into season she'll stay in season through out the summer unless brought out by SOME means... as a result she is prone to picking up nasty infections ( which can be .. but not always ARE .. avoided by keeping her hutch/court scrupulously clean) or she May... develope something called aplastic anema which is a disease that attacks the ferret's bone marrow and can kill her. This is more likely in ferrets who go through several long seasons without being bred... so how do you avoid this... there are several options here.. 1.. like i said keep her super clean and seperated during her seasons and take the chances... lots do it year in and year out with no problems... but then i know personally several who have lost a jill in their first season this way... which with either A.. cost you nothin cause she dies.. or LOTS because you spend half the time at the vets lining THEIR pockets. 2.. Use a vasectomised hob... this is a hob who's had the snip snip.. same as Men of the human species have to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. and just like in Men, the hob will do the job... and bring her out of season.. but no kits will come of it. The costs vary from vet to vet and depend on the part of the country you live in.. Here in Devon my vet is charging me £37.50 for a Vasectomy. Draw backs of this method... sometimes the op doesn't work and you end up with kits you didn't plan and waste the money for the op... or it works fine but the jills goes into a phantom pregnancy and promptly comes back into season in 6 weeks time... and lastly.. there is the possiblity of passing on sexually transmitted diseases especially if you "borrow" a vasectomised hob from a friend... 3.. Get a jill jab... this is a hormone your vet can give her... this will bring her safely out of season.. the cost again varies.. i've seen anything from £3 per ferret per jab to £20 so you wanna shop around. Drawbacks... just like with a vasectomised hob, she may simply have a false pregancy and come right back into season needing more jabs. Also many vets prefer to only give 1 jill jab per ferret in her lifetime due to the chemicals involved. Again you'll need to shop around and talk to your vet. 4. Mate her with a suitable hob. This is sticky territory.. if you dont know what you are doing regarding genetics and care and raising a litter and also make plans to responsibly either keep up to 13 from a single jill or rehome them.. you have no business breeding a ferret! Costs will be MUCH more than you expect. By the time she is 4 weeks along the jill will be eating up to double her food intake and that will continue through day 42ish when she delivers her kits and through their weaning at about 5 weeks by which time she'll again still need more food because of the energy nursing all these kits is taking out of her. The cost of feeding up weaning kits is a lot as well and they can quite literally eat you out of house and home before they are even old enough to head off to new homes. 5... Spay her... This is the easiest long term option in my opinion. Again costs vary, my vet charges £30 for jills but i've seen silly ammounts of upwards £90 for a simple spay. Pro's of this option are no worries about season related illnesses or making arrangements or dealing with false pregnancies or kits. Its a one time charge so no repeated bills. the right choice for SOME isn't the right choice for everyone so weigh your options.. talk to knowledgable people and consult a vet... Make the choice that is right for YOU... good luck with your jill! Nail on head sound advise, atb richard Quote Link to post
Brimmer 220 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Class answer, and thanks for the fact and figures. I've kept them in clean cages, through the season, without mating, and never had one get ill in a lot of years. Have heard they do, but never seen it myself. How much is a ferret worth to you? Taken my best in the past to the vets, when they start mentioning big bucks for things, (I.e open stomach to remove a bone at £200) then you have to draw a line. (A dose of liquid parrafin shifted it!) We all want the best for our critters, but sometimes we have to be realistic about the cost of things! Quote Link to post
csme55ex 2 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's the deal... when a ferret comes into season she'll stay in season through out the summer unless brought out by SOME means... as a result she is prone to picking up nasty infections ( which can be .. but not always ARE .. avoided by keeping her hutch/court scrupulously clean) or she May... develope something called aplastic anema which is a disease that attacks the ferret's bone marrow and can kill her. This is more likely in ferrets who go through several long seasons without being bred... so how do you avoid this... there are several options here.. 1.. like i said keep her super clean and seperated during her seasons and take the chances... lots do it year in and year out with no problems... but then i know personally several who have lost a jill in their first season this way... which with either A.. cost you nothin cause she dies.. or LOTS because you spend half the time at the vets lining THEIR pockets. 2.. Use a vasectomised hob... this is a hob who's had the snip snip.. same as Men of the human species have to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. and just like in Men, the hob will do the job... and bring her out of season.. but no kits will come of it. The costs vary from vet to vet and depend on the part of the country you live in.. Here in Devon my vet is charging me £37.50 for a Vasectomy. Draw backs of this method... sometimes the op doesn't work and you end up with kits you didn't plan and waste the money for the op... or it works fine but the jills goes into a phantom pregnancy and promptly comes back into season in 6 weeks time... and lastly.. there is the possiblity of passing on sexually transmitted diseases especially if you "borrow" a vasectomised hob from a friend... 3.. Get a jill jab... this is a hormone your vet can give her... this will bring her safely out of season.. the cost again varies.. i've seen anything from £3 per ferret per jab to £20 so you wanna shop around. Drawbacks... just like with a vasectomised hob, she may simply have a false pregancy and come right back into season needing more jabs. Also many vets prefer to only give 1 jill jab per ferret in her lifetime due to the chemicals involved. Again you'll need to shop around and talk to your vet. 4. Mate her with a suitable hob. This is sticky territory.. if you dont know what you are doing regarding genetics and care and raising a litter and also make plans to responsibly either keep up to 13 from a single jill or rehome them.. you have no business breeding a ferret! Costs will be MUCH more than you expect. By the time she is 4 weeks along the jill will be eating up to double her food intake and that will continue through day 42ish when she delivers her kits and through their weaning at about 5 weeks by which time she'll again still need more food because of the energy nursing all these kits is taking out of her. The cost of feeding up weaning kits is a lot as well and they can quite literally eat you out of house and home before they are even old enough to head off to new homes. 5... Spay her... This is the easiest long term option in my opinion. Again costs vary, my vet charges £30 for jills but i've seen silly ammounts of upwards £90 for a simple spay. Pro's of this option are no worries about season related illnesses or making arrangements or dealing with false pregnancies or kits. Its a one time charge so no repeated bills. the right choice for SOME isn't the right choice for everyone so weigh your options.. talk to knowledgable people and consult a vet... Make the choice that is right for YOU... good luck with your jill! yer that was brilliaint advice mate ... i think im gonna do one out of two get my two jills spaded or get a hob and get him vasectomised fingers crossed the op will work .. thanks again mate Quote Link to post
The one 8,456 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's the deal... when a ferret comes into season she'll stay in season through out the summer unless brought out by SOME means... as a result she is prone to picking up nasty infections ( which can be .. but not always ARE .. avoided by keeping her hutch/court scrupulously clean) or she May... develope something called aplastic anema which is a disease that attacks the ferret's bone marrow and can kill her. This is more likely in ferrets who go through several long seasons without being bred... so how do you avoid this... there are several options here.. 1.. like i said keep her super clean and seperated during her seasons and take the chances... lots do it year in and year out with no problems... but then i know personally several who have lost a jill in their first season this way... which with either A.. cost you nothin cause she dies.. or LOTS because you spend half the time at the vets lining THEIR pockets. 2.. Use a vasectomised hob... this is a hob who's had the snip snip.. same as Men of the human species have to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. and just like in Men, the hob will do the job... and bring her out of season.. but no kits will come of it. The costs vary from vet to vet and depend on the part of the country you live in.. Here in Devon my vet is charging me £37.50 for a Vasectomy. Draw backs of this method... sometimes the op doesn't work and you end up with kits you didn't plan and waste the money for the op... or it works fine but the jills goes into a phantom pregnancy and promptly comes back into season in 6 weeks time... and lastly.. there is the possiblity of passing on sexually transmitted diseases especially if you "borrow" a vasectomised hob from a friend... 3.. Get a jill jab... this is a hormone your vet can give her... this will bring her safely out of season.. the cost again varies.. i've seen anything from £3 per ferret per jab to £20 so you wanna shop around. Drawbacks... just like with a vasectomised hob, she may simply have a false pregancy and come right back into season needing more jabs. Also many vets prefer to only give 1 jill jab per ferret in her lifetime due to the chemicals involved. Again you'll need to shop around and talk to your vet. 4. Mate her with a suitable hob. This is sticky territory.. if you dont know what you are doing regarding genetics and care and raising a litter and also make plans to responsibly either keep up to 13 from a single jill or rehome them.. you have no business breeding a ferret! Costs will be MUCH more than you expect. By the time she is 4 weeks along the jill will be eating up to double her food intake and that will continue through day 42ish when she delivers her kits and through their weaning at about 5 weeks by which time she'll again still need more food because of the energy nursing all these kits is taking out of her. The cost of feeding up weaning kits is a lot as well and they can quite literally eat you out of house and home before they are even old enough to head off to new homes. 5... Spay her... This is the easiest long term option in my opinion. Again costs vary, my vet charges £30 for jills but i've seen silly ammounts of upwards £90 for a simple spay. Pro's of this option are no worries about season related illnesses or making arrangements or dealing with false pregnancies or kits. Its a one time charge so no repeated bills. the right choice for SOME isn't the right choice for everyone so weigh your options.. talk to knowledgable people and consult a vet... Make the choice that is right for YOU... good luck with your jill! Great advise :clapper: Quote Link to post
The one 8,456 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Why no pop down your local library and get a loan of a few ferreting books ?? Quote Link to post
No1ShottySid 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ive known old ferreters who havent bred their jills once and their fine ? Quote Link to post
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