Missie 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 The lack of respect for keepers, farmers and the like on here astounds me! I know the keeper on one of my walk routes and used to beat for him but during the season I keep my dogs on leads and don't walk them in areas on the estate where there is livestock. Without these people a lot of you would have no places to hunt with your dogs and at the end of the day they are only trying to make a living so cut them some slack... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greenman 221 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 your dog must be under direct control in a public place. if you can control your dog without it being on a lead, you don't have to use one. footpath laws were made before dog walkers, they give you the right to walk from a to b and nothing else, they are also a public place so as above you are responsible for the actions of your dog when walking them. the trouble is most people don't know how the law stands and many keepers/landowners take advantage of this. out of courtesy i put my dogs on a lead when walking through livestock or near game covers. if a keeper told me to change my route and not walk the footpath i would respectfuly suggest said keeper go f**k themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 if theres a public footpath this man as got the right to walk his dogs 24 7 the keeper and the farmer should have considered this before putting rearing pens or game cover crops with in the vicinity of a public foot path and considered the law regarding shooting near a public boundary another thing they should consider is the public walking these foot paths are also the tax payers who are paying to the massive subsidies these land owners are creaming out of the public coffers year in year out . what all the fuss is about i dont know if these semi domesticated birds are moved on they will soon be back for theyre dinner in plenty of times for jeeves and his man to blast em at point blank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Little Butch 16 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 And that just proved you know F*ck all about Shooting.... Butch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 put it this way dope ive forgotten more than an arrogant little twat like you will ever know and have come across plenty like you when ive been out and about now go and get your camo suit on and go and play little keeper boy out in the woods with your whistle and dont forget to take a pocket of corn with you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Little Butch 16 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 I haven't got a Cammo suit, will a Green Jacket and Combat Trousers do? Butch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just been to one of my walks wich as been there for donkeys years. It is a public footpath that go's through land that is keepered. Anyway today when i get there ther's been a notice put up saying "protected conservation area keep to footpath dogs to be kept on leads". I was just wondering how the notice stands by law ? i think its just a tattic been used by the keeper to protect is birds. Can you tell me what you think, cheers. if the notice has been put up by the keeper he is probably trying to make sure people keep their dogs on the lead,does he have the authority on a public right of way to even put the notice up?Maybe he wants to keep his life simple,the guy only wants to know how he stands with this notice as regards to the law,is it unlawful to let dogs roam,or does the keeper have authority to put such notices up and are they to be observed as legal notice,i think that's what he want's to know the answer to, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GarryN 5 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just an observation but Little Butch has a nice banner that can be miss read by authority?? Everybody can put on a bolshie side if needed we are all guilty when someone or thing Pee's you off. We need to think about each other a bit more and the need for give and take has never been so needed. Lurchermen, Keepers the Hunt and everybody else all want a piece of the Pie but do not want to give anything back as they see it as a sign of weakness. Happy Hunting for all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfinch 51 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I don't think he was trying to start a discussion on disrespectful dog walkers. . . . . i think he literally just wanted to know if the sign is legally binding. Probably through nothing more than interest! Chill peeps. Where the feck did this post ask WHY the sign was there? it seems Hanna is the only person that read the post. I understand that it may have been put there, to protect the guys livelihood, But the question was "how does the notice stand by law" The guy never said he was going to annoy the birds (untill he was provoked) He just asked a SIMPLE question. But, hey, lets just shoot ourselves in the foot, cause that is exactly what certain people out there want. Rant over. Carry on arguing lads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Little Butch 16 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well he just proved what sort of an Idiot he was by saying he's going to put all the Keepers Birds up. Hardly shows he's a good bloke does It.... Butch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
just jack 998 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 i think you annoyed him butch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 And still we try to help each other through the quaqmire called 'law',his question however remains unanswered,do we now try to help a fellow asking a lawful question or do we ostrasize him,regardless of his intent,which has not been proven,the point is he asked a simple question which may even benefit us all in the end, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mole catcher 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Just been to one of my walks wich as been there for donkeys years. It is a public footpath that go's through land that is keepered. im not sure why most are asking him to change his walk as i think the answer to the question is in the first line of his question. Its a public footpath and as such he has the freedom granted by the crown to wonder this pathway freely, AS LONG AS HE STAYS UPON SAID FOOTPATH. NO LANDOWNER has the right to restrict passage along any prescribed footpath as long as it is designated PUBLIC FOOTPATH be it a sight of important intrest or not, AS LONG AS YOU STAY ON THE FOOTPATH, AND THAT INCLUDEDS YOUR DOGS just visit the local libary(spelling) and check out the right to roam ruleings Edited November 20, 2008 by mole catcher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 slowly but surely,the powers that be,can tell us what we mortals cannot do from now on,the question is who grants these mere mortals in power,the authorirty to TELL US WE CANNOT DO simple things like walking a dog or catching something the dog caught,surely these are natural incidences,and i for one will not recognize authority unless it comes from a reputable source,and a reputable source is not government,council or any Authority that so recognises it self as such so called 'powers that may be',so WHO CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION,,my money is on the government who control everything,hence the new anti hunting laws.....much more can be said about these laws...i just don't have enough time right now to follow it up....makes you think dosen't it, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 791 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Sorry dont know the answer to the original question but as far as I understand ownership of the birds ceases when they leave the release pen becoming free/wildbirds Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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