Advice for ferreting a HUGE warren

[Coatesy900 0]

Why does he not allow digging??If the land is as hole ridden as you say surely digging a single hole to get a fert back providing it's not to deep should,nt be a problem as you'll back fill it anyway

 

Exactly my thoughts. If it is as dug up as you make it out to be, then it would be pretty much useless to the landowner and so Im sure he would be willing to allow anything to get rid of them if he cares so much about the land that you arnt even allowed to shoot, dig or let dogs on it.

 

Think somebody might be BSing a bit.

[moley 115]

Personally i'd say a dedicated trapping (mk4's and BMI's) and snaring campaign together with rimfire work.

not nit picking , but mk 4,s are not the trap to use for rabbits

[Fat-Ferret 857]

Why does he not allow digging??If the land is as hole ridden as you say surely digging a single hole to get a fert back providing it's not to deep should,nt be a problem as you'll back fill it anyway

 

Exactly my thoughts. If it is as dug up as you make it out to be, then it would be pretty much useless to the landowner and so Im sure he would be willing to allow anything to get rid of them if he cares so much about the land that you arnt even allowed to shoot, dig or let dogs on it.

 

Think somebody might be BSing a bit.

 

Why would I be BS'ing....The man asked me not to dig, so I dont, theres no reason to BS about anythng

Edited November 17, 2008 by Fat-Ferret

[Brimmer 220]

We've all been there, landowner is the boss in the end.

From your situation, longnetting in the dark would be the best option, alongside snares.

These critters must be moving out at night to feed, so probs before midnight is the time, pick a breezy dull night (no moon) and see if you can longnet the best sides of the warren under as little light as possible. LITTLE LIGHT! bag of carrots job!

Then push them back into the net.

[Yokel Matt 918]

Quite right, i meant mk6's, I beleive it's illegal to use mk4's on rabbits.

 

Sounds like you have a fair job on your hands

[sikastag_1 689]

I think that it gets to a point where a burry gets too big for ferreting. No matter how much experiance you have even to have a chance of working an established burry that size that you're going to need A LOT of people that know what they are doing. Lots of people and guns don't mix so i'd scratch bolt shooting straight away. Personally i can't imagine the logistic's of tackling it with ferrets

 

It may be possible to try and get rabbits to move to some of the individual fringe burry's by rolling fur-cones soaked in diesal down areas of the large warren and then hitting them hard in the smaller ones but even then its a massive exercise. I think you were very lucky to get your ferrets back and were wise to try and avoid the main warren.

 

With the number if entrance / exit holes about on something that size longnetting probably isn't practical either and a running dog would have great risk of injury.

 

Personally i'd say a dedicated trapping (mk4's and BMI's) and snaring campaign together with rimfire work.

 

 

we went down the borders to a place that was polluted, stood half way up the hillside were the burrows ended 5 of us dropped a few ferrets each and stood back, and here i am to tell the story, people and guns dont mix if people aint been taught gun safety, if people use good gun safety and use the 3 second rule which is rabbit bolts count 1...2...3 then mount the gun and take your shot then youve got 3 seconds to make sure the pathways clear, where the rabbits going and the rabbit has cleared the hole its bolted from incase the ferrets at the arse of the rabbit or hanging on the arse of the rabbit if anyone cant asses a clear shot down a hillside to make sure its safe within 3 seconds with a shotgun then i would revoke their certificate,

 

 

it aint ideal for ferreting obviously, and i wouldnt run a dog on a hillside like that either, a rimfire would do the job but the lad might want a bit of ferreting he might not even shoot.

 

ps that top comment wasnt a dig at you but people and guns only dont mix if theres someone there who aint safe.

[Leeview 791]

grant_c FF has already said no guns, dogs or digging so his options are to say the least "restricted"

IMO I've done hillsides riddled with holes(but not 20-30acres as was mentioned) and to stack it in your favour why not block as many holes as you can by throwing a spade full of earth down them, from whats been excavated this way your reducing the size of the warren for the rabbits boling and also cutting the rabbits options of hole hopping, when you go back and ferret it

Y.I.S Leeview

[Yokel Matt 918]

I think that it gets to a point where a burry gets too big for ferreting. No matter how much experiance you have even to have a chance of working an established burry that size that you're going to need A LOT of people that know what they are doing. Lots of people and guns don't mix so i'd scratch bolt shooting straight away. Personally i can't imagine the logistic's of tackling it with ferrets

 

It may be possible to try and get rabbits to move to some of the individual fringe burry's by rolling fur-cones soaked in diesal down areas of the large warren and then hitting them hard in the smaller ones but even then its a massive exercise. I think you were very lucky to get your ferrets back and were wise to try and avoid the main warren.

 

With the number if entrance / exit holes about on something that size longnetting probably isn't practical either and a running dog would have great risk of injury.

 

Personally i'd say a dedicated trapping (mk4's and BMI's) and snaring campaign together with rimfire work.

 

 

we went down the borders to a place that was polluted, stood half way up the hillside were the burrows ended 5 of us dropped a few ferrets each and stood back, and here i am to tell the story, people and guns dont mix if people aint been taught gun safety, if people use good gun safety and use the 3 second rule which is rabbit bolts count 1...2...3 then mount the gun and take your shot then youve got 3 seconds to make sure the pathways clear, where the rabbits going and the rabbit has cleared the hole its bolted from incase the ferrets at the arse of the rabbit or hanging on the arse of the rabbit if anyone cant asses a clear shot down a hillside to make sure its safe within 3 seconds with a shotgun then i would revoke their certificate,

 

 

it aint ideal for ferreting obviously, and i wouldnt run a dog on a hillside like that either, a rimfire would do the job but the lad might want a bit of ferreting he might not even shoot.

 

ps that top comment wasnt a dig at you but people and guns only dont mix if theres someone there who aint safe.

 

I've been in the position where someone swung through the line bolt shooting and it was though my life flashed before my eyes. Its not nice and a terrible way to ruin a friendship.. and thats the best case scenario.

 

If the place is a swizz cheese for bolt holes you'll be on the way to the vets in five minutes running a dog and no-one wants that... not to mention having your stinkers drop off the depth gauge with a £30 collar on. Stick to the owners rules and build a relationship of trust with him, offer him rabbits when you get some and he may change his mind. Don't cut you nose off by giving him shit like someone suggested.

[sikastag_1 689]

grant_c FF has already said no guns, dogs or digging so his options are to say the least "restricted"

IMO I've done hillsides riddled with holes(but not 20-30acres as was mentioned) and to stack it in your favour why not block as many holes as you can by throwing a spade full of earth down them, from whats been excavated this way your reducing the size of the warren for the rabbits boling and also cutting the rabbits options of hole hopping, when you go back and ferret it

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

"FF" didnt read through to the end i replied to local first as it was on the first page,

 

safety comes first local at the end of the day if someone swung through a line then he should get his balls kicked and his guns took off him theres no excuse for gun safety, on friday my misses got shot in a beating line luckily she put her hand over her face shes got 1 pellet in her hand (which was covering her eye) 1 in her cheek and 1 in her head the 1 in her head isnt into her skull and shes fine this was a french idiot i was at work or he wouldnt have been heading back to france on saturday morning, but i would happily stand with my mates bolting rabbits as i know the score and so do they and we all know no quarry is worth risking you, your mate, your dog a ferret or anyone else thats the point im making anyway back on subject lol.

[ferreterni 29]

How you getting om with this patch now? Any luck catching? Hows hob doing?