Applying For A SGC With Northumbria police.

[snipper 0]

Hi All,

 

I am new to the world of Shotguns, I have only previously owned air guns/rifles.

 

I was going to purchase a good air rifle again. However I have quite taken to the idea of Clay pigeon and also game shooting.

 

I was wondering what Northumbria expect in the way of Gun security/cabinet or cable lock etc for a single semi-auto gun? and also the timescal to obtain a licence with them?

 

As i am aware different forces have different requirements. Also how much am I looking at for a good s/h semi??

 

Im sorry if these questions have been over asked etc, I have read previous posts but couldn't find any of the above answers.

 

Thank you kindly for your help.

 

Edited November 16, 2008 by snipper

[Deker 3,478]

Hi All,

 

I am new to the world of Shotguns, I have only previously owned air guns/rifles.

 

I was going to purchase a good air rifle again. However I have quite taken to the idea of Clay pigeon and also game shooting.

 

I was wondering what Northumbria expect in the way of Gun security/cabinet or cable lock etc for a single semi-auto gun? and also the timescal to obtain a licence with them?

 

As i am aware different forces have different requirements. Also how much am I looking at for a good s/h semi??

 

Im sorry if these questions have been over asked etc, I have read previous posts but couldn't find any of the above answers.

 

Thank you kindly for your help.

 

 

 

Appreciate the point you are trying to make but the law is the law and all regions have the same requirements under it...they just interpret the law the way they want to!!

 

A single shotgun (actually 2) may be legally held with a ground anchor...NO cabinet required! But you will find just about every force will be happier with a cabinet!!

[snipper 0]

Appreciate the point you are trying to make but the law is the law and all regions have the same requirements under it...they just interpret the law the way they want to!!

 

A single shotgun (actually 2) may be legally held with a ground anchor...NO cabinet required! But you will find just about every force will be happier with a cabinet!!

 

Thanks, do you have any pictures of a required Ground anchor and the required cable/lock? or can you use one which is for anchoring a motorbike? and also can you use a brick wall inside your garage to fix a cabinet too? or must it be inside your house?

 

thank you

[Deker 3,478]

Appreciate the point you are trying to make but the law is the law and all regions have the same requirements under it...they just interpret the law the way they want to!!

 

A single shotgun (actually 2) may be legally held with a ground anchor...NO cabinet required! But you will find just about every force will be happier with a cabinet!!

 

Thanks, do you have any pictures of a required Ground anchor and the required cable/lock? or can you use one which is for anchoring a motorbike? and also can you use a brick wall inside your garage to fix a cabinet too? or must it be inside your house?

 

thank you

 

 

 

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....or refer to........ Home Office, Firearms Law, Guidance to the Police 2002 (you can download all 200+ pages of it on the web).

[snipper 0]

Thanks,

I think I am going to apply for both shotgun and firearms together, Would a Garage be acceptable however? as it is a brick wall, however they may consider the garage door un secure???

 

Thanks

Edited November 16, 2008 by snipper

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Depends on the area you live mate, if your in, say, the middle of ashington (not that its a particularly rough spot!! ) they will want locks on all windows, alarm in house, 5 lever locks on all doors, and a cabinet that conforms to british standards which is properly fitted with expanding wall bolts.

If your out in the sticks, just a secure cabinet will do. I know, as ive been in both sorts of situation. They will take anything up to 5 weeks depending on how busy they are!

 

Hope this helps

 

DnN

[snipper 0]

Depends on the area you live mate, if your in, say, the middle of ashington (not that its a particularly rough spot!! ) they will want locks on all windows, alarm in house, 5 lever locks on all doors, and a cabinet that conforms to british standards which is properly fitted with expanding wall bolts.

If your out in the sticks, just a secure cabinet will do. I know, as ive been in both sorts of situation. They will take anything up to 5 weeks depending on how busy they are!

 

Hope this helps

 

DnN

 

Thank you, I DO live in Ashington as it happens!! hehe only joking, I live in Ryton. If I had a gun cabinet fixed to the back of the garage wall against the wall which is the opposite side to the living room would this be suitable do you think? I would build it and fix with expanding bolts etc. I don't really want to do it unless it would be acceptable.I mean if nobody has an answer I can easily ring the firearms department to ask.

 

 

Thanks

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Ryton.... ok, you may need to fully coat your house with 20mm steel plate, and wire the alarm to the station!!!

 

It will depend on how secure your garage doors and windows are, you will probably have to put it out of site of the window. They would probably prefer it in the house, but you could always ring up and ask the firearms office for advice. The cabinet will need to be british standard. And a seperate amunition compartment will also be needed for FAC.

[snipper 0]

Ryton.... ok, you may need to fully coat your house with 20mm steel plate, and wire the alarm to the station!!!

 

It will depend on how secure your garage doors and windows are, you will probably have to put it out of site of the window. They would probably prefer it in the house, but you could always ring up and ask the firearms office for advice. The cabinet will need to be british standard. And a seperate amunition compartment will also be needed for FAC.

 

Thank you, where would you suggest is a suitable place to but a cabinet? I was going to make one but if I do I could possibly make it and it not be as the standard, then it would delay my application!! How much am is it likely going to cost for one? Also do I need a secure "safe like" device for the ammo? could a digital safe be actually used for this purpose??

 

Thanks for the help

[cyclonebri1 8]

Ryton.... ok, you may need to fully coat your house with 20mm steel plate, and wire the alarm to the station!!!

 

It will depend on how secure your garage doors and windows are, you will probably have to put it out of site of the window. They would probably prefer it in the house, but you could always ring up and ask the firearms office for advice. The cabinet will need to be british standard. And a seperate amunition compartment will also be needed for FAC.

 

Thank you, where would you suggest is a suitable place to but a cabinet? I was going to make one but if I do I could possibly make it and it not be as the standard, then it would delay my application!! How much am is it likely going to cost for one? Also do I need a secure "safe like" device for the ammo? could a digital safe be actually used for this purpose??

 

Thanks for the help

 

 

When I recently took out my FAC I had fitted a strong but cheap safe of ebay, £15, However the FEO said he would be happy with an Ex MOD ammo box from the army surplus place, £5, provided it was drilled and bolted down and padlocked.

 

This was DerbyshirePolice.

Edited November 17, 2008 by cyclonebri1

[Deker 3,478]

I think you best go away and think again...within the space of a few hours you change your mind form SGC and a ground anchor to FAC/SGC and making your own cabinet........

 

Lets have a look so far.............................

 

 

1. Hi All,

I am new to the world of Shotguns, I have only previously owned air guns/rifles.

I was going to purchase a good air rifle again. However I have quite taken to the idea of Clay pigeon and also game shooting.

I was wondering what Northumbria expect in the way of Gun security/cabinet or cable lock etc for a single semi-auto gun? and also the timescal to obtain a licence with them?

As i am aware different forces have different requirements. Also how much am I looking at for a good s/h semi??

Im sorry if these questions have been over asked etc, I have read previous posts but couldn't find any of the above answers.

Thank you kindly for your help.

 

2. Thanks, do you have any pictures of a required Ground anchor and the required cable/lock? or can you use one which is for anchoring a motorbike? and also can you use a brick wall inside your garage to fix a cabinet too? or must it be inside your house?

 

3. Thanks,

I think I am going to apply for both shotgun and firearms together, Would a Garage be acceptable however? as it is a brick wall, however they may consider the garage door un secure???

 

4. Thank you, I DO live in Ashington as it happens!! hehe only joking, I live in Ryton. If I had a gun cabinet fixed to the back of the garage wall against the wall which is the opposite side to the living room would this be suitable do you think? I would build it and fix with expanding bolts etc. I don't really want to do it unless it would be acceptable.I mean if nobody has an answer I can easily ring the firearms department to ask.

 

 

5. Thank you, where would you suggest is a suitable place to but a cabinet? I was going to make one but if I do I could possibly make it and it not be as the standard, then it would delay my application!! How much am is it likely going to cost for one? Also do I need a secure "safe like" device for the ammo? could a digital safe be actually used for this purpose??

 

 

Take your own advice and talk to the firearms department!!

[snipper 0]

I think you best go away and think again...within the space of a few hours you change your mind form SGC and a ground anchor to FAC/SGC and making your own cabinet........

 

Lets have a look so far.............................

 

 

1. Hi All,

I am new to the world of Shotguns, I have only previously owned air guns/rifles.

I was going to purchase a good air rifle again. However I have quite taken to the idea of Clay pigeon and also game shooting.

I was wondering what Northumbria expect in the way of Gun security/cabinet or cable lock etc for a single semi-auto gun? and also the timescal to obtain a licence with them?

As i am aware different forces have different requirements. Also how much am I looking at for a good s/h semi??

Im sorry if these questions have been over asked etc, I have read previous posts but couldn't find any of the above answers.

Thank you kindly for your help.

 

2. Thanks, do you have any pictures of a required Ground anchor and the required cable/lock? or can you use one which is for anchoring a motorbike? and also can you use a brick wall inside your garage to fix a cabinet too? or must it be inside your house?

 

3. Thanks,

I think I am going to apply for both shotgun and firearms together, Would a Garage be acceptable however? as it is a brick wall, however they may consider the garage door un secure???

 

4. Thank you, I DO live in Ashington as it happens!! hehe only joking, I live in Ryton. If I had a gun cabinet fixed to the back of the garage wall against the wall which is the opposite side to the living room would this be suitable do you think? I would build it and fix with expanding bolts etc. I don't really want to do it unless it would be acceptable.I mean if nobody has an answer I can easily ring the firearms department to ask.

 

 

5. Thank you, where would you suggest is a suitable place to but a cabinet? I was going to make one but if I do I could possibly make it and it not be as the standard, then it would delay my application!! How much am is it likely going to cost for one? Also do I need a secure "safe like" device for the ammo? could a digital safe be actually used for this purpose??

 

 

Take your own advice and talk to the firearms department!!

 

I HAVE NOW SPOKEN WITH THEM - However I had the impression this was a friendly site and I thought I would ask people ACTUAL senarios that HAVE happened in the past.

SECONDLY I thought it would be a WORTHWHILE exercise to apply for both licences together so I had the opportunity to go target shooting if required and not have to re-apply. Sorry if you think I am wasting peoples time however I thought people would be helpful towards new starters.

 

I thank you all who have helped me out.

Edited November 17, 2008 by snipper