asking for a friend!!!

[Guest MY LAW]

he has a colliexhound both parents working and his nearly 7 months and he had him out with another a dog a few times to watch but now he just would even run after them he would case the rabbits

 

he just dooesnt get it why not and what to do he has given him a few by day and will catch them but when it comes to the lamp he wont run>>>>>>>>>????

 

WHAT TO DO WITH HIM

then why does he have a go in the day ,its here in black and white.

[robbie4444 5]

i think he should give the dog to someone who knows what he is doing this is going to be one of these dogs that never got a proper chance through no fault of the dog the amount of dogs destroyed for these reasons in sickening

[Guest MY LAW]

i think he should give the dog to someone who knows what he is doing this is going to be one of these dogs that never got a proper chance through no fault of the dog the amount of dogs destroyed for these reasons in sickening

have to agree with what you are saying ,

[jackard 36]

he has a colliexhound both parents working and his nearly 7 months and he had him out with another a dog a few times to watch but now he just would even run after them he would case the rabbits

 

he just dooesnt get it why not and what to do he has given him a few by day and will catch them but when it comes to the lamp he wont run>>>>>>>>>????

 

WHAT TO DO WITH HIM

then why does he have a go in the day ,its here in black and white.

 

 

cos its a confidence thing for the pup , he can see better in the day , in the night its totaly different.

 

try walking up the beam when your mate holds the lamp on and see what you can actualy see at you feet and around you , (many of you lampers must know what im on about when out lamping and looking for the dead rabbit ) you cant see diddly , your blinded and its decieving when your the 1 holding the lamp as you can see every thing (or you think you can ).

your dog is a pup [bANNED TEXT] , hold him back it will come in time

[nbk 0]

leave him till he is 12-14 months old

[wild rover 548]

he has a colliexhound both parents working and his nearly 7 months and he had him out with another a dog a few times to watch but now he just would even run after them he would case the rabbits

 

he just dooesnt get it why not and what to do he has given him a few by day and will catch them but when it comes to the lamp he wont run>>>>>>>>>????

 

WHAT TO DO WITH HIM

 

Only a baby, look back a few pages and see thread on training a lamping pup, do this then at 12 month try again.

[Guest MY LAW]

or wait untill he is 10 years old and use him as a STUD DOG :whistling:after all you would have wasted 1 year whats a nother 9

Edited November 16, 2008 by MY LAW

[Tallyho 181]

What is it with people wanting to start them off that young ? we dont start ours till they are at least 12 months, like i have said before, many a good dog is ruined with haste.

[Guest MY LAW]

What is it with people wanting to start them off that young ? we dont start ours till they are at least 12 months, like i have said before, many a good dog is ruined with haste.

ever tried it.

[Guest miller1989]

dont know bout any else but personally what i do,and i know i few other do bringing a yound dog on in the lamp is to go ferreting or ask around for one get a bag of 10 in a box or container take the dog out and get someone to let the rabbits go for the dog works excellent ive had no problems bringing on a pup that way good luck.p.s plz giv it a try will work wonders rabbit cant run when they have been locked up all day! maybe need few months more aswel.

Edited November 16, 2008 by miller1989

[steve noon 0]

I wonder what age your mate is spiderfly????Has he much experience with dogs

[runforyourlife 361]

Whos spiderfly????

 

 

I cant get over "my laws" lack of knowledge after all those years of experience.... I dont know what your job is, but try to do it in the dark! It will seem alot harder, so differewnt, and take you longer! imagine it, a sparky in the day grafting away. Then it goes dark, puts a torch on, and wow, how different does evrything look.....dont tell me your answer, as i already know it "you can do your blindfolded!

 

What is the point of asking a question on here, then arguing with everyone who doesnt say what you want to hear. Do you bot think it strange how everybody has given the same answer....

[spookster1 24]

I don't work my dog but i am going to give my opinion

I took on a mainly saluki a few years ago. He was about 18mths and totally messed up.

he was terrifeid of the dark and even more terrified of a big spot light coming at him.

It took me a long time to get this dog to walk in the dark and not panic if there was a spot light in the dark.

I don't know what happened to this poor dog but someone really messed him up lamping

I would also like to say that i agree with everyone else he is too young let him be a pup!

I have had quite a few lurcher in my time some older rescues and some from pup. What I have found, without encouraging them to chase, it that they soon realise what rabbits and the like are for. It takes some longer then others but all my dogs would chase so give the pup time and don't write him off at such an young age.

Edited November 17, 2008 by spookster1

[bolio 51]

There's nothing wrong with getting a dog out and about at a young age. Allowing a pup to watch a bit of ferretting will help get it used to the ferrets and it won't get run ragged all over the next county if it chases a bolter.

But you can only progress through the stages as and when the youngster develops.

At the moment your mates pup is curious enough to chase when he's in his comfort zone, i.e. in daylight when he can see around him. He's still immature enough that his survival instinct (fear of the unknown) overrides his prey drive in the dark so it's holding in check his desire to chase into the unknown.

This just means the dog isn't ready for the next stage yet.

I would stop the attempts to get early success and concentrate on play and bonding. Too much chasing and missing at this age may teach the dog that he can't catch rabbits and by the time he's mature enough to be giving that full on headlong committment that a dog needs to make a consistent catcher, he may already be reading each rabbits likelyhood of escape on the run up and not really try. We've all seen the dog that peels off the chase when a rabbit looks like making cover, when it should be doing the opposite and moving up a gear.

The dog will mature in his own good time, what your mate can do is ensure that when that time comes the youngster knows how to negotiate all the hurdles and pitfalls he's going to meet in the field, sheepwire, barbed wire, fallen trees etc..

Good luck

[J Darcy 5,871]

IMHO this sounds like the combination of a under age puppy and a impatient fool of an owner.

 

Sadly, an all-too-common occurance.