lucher food

[beddlington/greyhound 50]

any advise from yourself?????????

From about 6 months I would be switching to a raw diet if possible (and none of that veggie stuff - they can get that from rabbit guts if they need it).

 

Check the labels, you need to be looking for decent amount of meat content, low (or no) grains. . gluten free. You don't need stupidly high protein levels or a large breed food. . steady, natural growth is preferable to accelerated.

 

Hills is, imo, overpriced. Bakers, again imo, has too many additives (just look at the pretty colours ). I've had (and heard of) reasonable results with Chum complete puppy, IAM's puppy, BETA, Purina, Kirkland CostCo own brand). . . .

thanks i am am gettin the picture now sort of i have seen the beta around alot of shops.

 

dont they do one just for the greyhound ? or are they all the same?

[ABDog 0]

I'm not THAT up on what's (still) about or not. . someone said that Nutro had gone bust (or had been bought by Pedigree and they were trashing it). .

 

Remember a few folk from my pet trade days (one of whom had a greyhound kennels) who got results with tripe and a working greyhound (dry) food.

 

Raw tripe is good for building lean muscle mass and, as has been mentioned, keepers mix from dorwest herbs (well, get it from elsewhere it'll be cheaper ) is a good additive - the only one I use.

 

I see a lot of value in raising young puppies on a high grade complete diet. . while I do believe they are fundamentally flawed, they do have all the basic requirements there and I've yet to see or hear of a puppy doing poorly on one - although I'm sure there have been cases.

[diggermad 154]

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[beddlington/greyhound 50]

I'm not THAT up on what's (still) about or not. . someone said that Nutro had gone bust (or had been bought by Pedigree and they were trashing it). .

 

Remember a few folk from my pet trade days (one of whom had a greyhound kennels) who got results with tripe and a working greyhound (dry) food.

 

Raw tripe is good for building lean muscle mass and, as has been mentioned, keepers mix from dorwest herbs (well, get it from elsewhere it'll be cheaper ) is a good additive - the only one I use.

 

I see a lot of value in raising young puppies on a high grade complete diet. . while I do believe they are fundamentally flawed, they do have all the basic requirements there and I've yet to see or hear of a puppy doing poorly on one - although I'm sure there have been cases.

well i have had 2 suggestion on beta and 2 on keepers mix, what one do i try? i am new to all this

[ABDog 0]

Keepers Mix is a powdered supplement which I've only ever heard of being used in a raw diet - I use it on defrosted tripe days . . check out http://secure.dorwest.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KM for details on it.

 

Give Beta a go, see how your dog does on it.

 

One other thing to consider is availability. Make sure that your food of choice is readily available locally.

[skycat 6,173]

Why do you want to keep your dog on dry food? Is is just for convenience? If you switch to a raw diet you'll see a big improvement in your dog's overall health, and long term you will have a healthier dog which is better able to shrug off illness and injury. Google BARF and read up on it.

[sandymere 8,263]

At 7 month the pup is still growing so a puppy or sapling type feed might be an idea. It may also be an be an idea to give more than one type of feed to get it used to a variety of brands in case a supply drys up in the future. If your feeding an adult feed try giving meat raw or cooked, if including bones raw is probably safer, a couple of times a week ie butchers waste.

Veg is ok and will give variety of nutrients both raw and cooked though raw may slightly reduce protein absorption.

As the pups activity increases and you start training/work the carbs in a complete food will give an easily available energy source for speedier stuff.

If you give a good variety of food ie complete meal, raw/cooked meat and vegtables table scraps etc you should not need to give a suppliment and in truth although most suppliments contain what the lable says they are often in a form that is not easialy availabe to digestion or counter productive to each other.

[beddlington/greyhound 50]

At 7 month the pup is still growing so a puppy or sapling type feed might be an idea. It may also be an be an idea to give more than one type of feed to get it used to a variety of brands in case a supply drys up in the future. If your feeding an adult feed try giving meat raw or cooked, if including bones raw is probably safer, a couple of times a week ie butchers waste.

Veg is ok and will give variety of nutrients both raw and cooked though raw may slightly reduce protein absorption.

As the pups activity increases and you start training/work the carbs in a complete food will give an easily available energy source for speedier stuff.

If you give a good variety of food ie complete meal, raw/cooked meat and vegtables table scraps etc you should not need to give a suppliment and in truth although most suppliments contain what the lable says they are often in a form that is not easialy availabe to digestion or counter productive to each other.

i am feeding her on a dry puppy food. i see everyone is saying raw or cooked meat how much of it do you feed?

 

sorry to keep this topice going but i just want whats best for her

[ABDog 0]

I have 2 adult dogs, 1 almost a year old and a young pup. . . the 3 older dogs eat solely raw meat and bones. The pup eats about 50/50 IAMs puppy and raw meat (although she's reluctantly eating the dry food now, much preferring the carnivores diet )

How much to feed is more an art than science. . you need to watch your dog. If it gets chubby feed less, if it looks thin then feed more.

Every dogs requirements are different, totally dependant on how much energy the individual uses.

 

Google is your friend, read as much as you can. . . all the pro's and cons, the various ways of feeding (just for raw there is BARF, RMB and prey model. . . possibly more).

[borderman45 0]

I have a border a lurcher a dobe and 2 bullmastiffs and I have tried everything from cheap to very expensive dried foods

and have had mixed results from all of them. A big problem being piles of s**t everywhere as their stomachs try to get rid of all the stuff that is not very natural for them to be eating, they also seem to get bored with dry food, Bakers has been banned in the States I think for its bonemeal and high salt content, it sells becauase it looks good. All mine eat and seem to love raw minced tripe that you can buy in 2kg bags from any pet shop or online with a low protein mixer, I give them pilchards once a week and a small amount of SA37 a couple of times a week. They all love feeding time and the piles of poo are only half the size and solid !

[beddlington/greyhound 50]

I have 2 adult dogs, 1 almost a year old and a young pup. . . the 3 older dogs eat solely raw meat and bones. The pup eats about 50/50 IAMs puppy and raw meat (although she's reluctantly eating the dry food now, much preferring the carnivores diet )

How much to feed is more an art than science. . you need to watch your dog. If it gets chubby feed less, if it looks thin then feed more.

Every dogs requirements are different, totally dependant on how much energy the individual uses.

 

Google is your friend, read as much as you can. . . all the pro's and cons, the various ways of feeding (just for raw there is BARF, RMB and prey model. . . possibly more).

so raw meat and a dry food it is then

[kvnmcwebn 0]

skycat is it bad to mix the two diets, i mean barf and dry?

 

I do about two weeks of the month on the barf(breast of lamb) and the rest on pedigree with the odd bit of calcium supplement for my 8month old pup. what do you think?

 

-best

kvn

[Guest MY LAW]

i have put this on a nother thread give it SMA powderd baby milk to drink a couple of times a week it will get all the vits and minerals it needs from that ,personaly i would stay away from dried food it is the worst thing to feed in my expereance i used to feed it years ago and a couple of my dogs got tumors ,just look what happend to the cows that was fed dried cow nuts ,get proper meat and veg like others have advised .pet food is not monitord to find out what is in it ,so who knows what you are feeding your dog.

[ABDog 0]

skycat is it bad to mix the two diets, i mean barf and dry?

I know this wasn't aimed at me but I do have the answer for you

 

It is fine to feed raw and 'complete' kibbled foods but it is not advised to do so in the same meal since they are processed at different speeds and are alleged to cause problems (I have no first hand knowledge of this since I never feed them both at the same time).

 

MY LAW - this is the first time I've read that the vitamin and mineral requirements of a puppy are the same as that of a baby. . not disputing your post but would be interested to know more about feeding powdered human milk to puppies.

[Guest AngelicAcid]

RAW.