martini 2 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 pals just been on phone he is at driffield waiting for a train .he got caught coursing and had motor confiscated he is sick as f**kbeen ther pal.my brother and cousons had the same done yesterday essex they took all 6 dogs and the car got to go court in 6 weeks and iff ther found guilty they will get a fine and loose the dogs.and one of them is in the forley cup hi l thought they stopped the forley cup ,wott a great 2 day meeting that was ,my nephew last year ,coursing at newmarket, got cout ,[bANNED TEXT] he went to courtgot a 3 months banned from driving ,and a 1400 fine ,was gutted lost is job over his liecence , Quote Link to post
bedwhippet 164 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Got caught poaching in the north east.. Police came and found a few long ears in the boot of the car went to court about it and nothing happened didnt even get a slap on the wrists. also they didnt take the car we where in or the two dogs we had with us.... Hope everything goes well for you mate.. Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 pals just been on phone he is at driffield waiting for a train .he got caught coursing and had motor confiscated he is sick as f**k Did he have permission on the land for "rabbiting"? no he did not A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? Quote Link to post
longnob 66 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Most of Driffield aint worth running a dog on , far too much Flint, glad to hear he kept his dogs. Been to Driffield pre-ban with a private pack of hounds beating fox and deer for the lurchers, seemed decent land to me... there is some good land round the driffield are and plenty of game there to dont think max has ever been Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? Come on inan dont start blaming it all on the poachers again! We are all in this current mess together. Coursing hares daylight with or without permision attracted more attention than poachers when the antis were campaigning for the ban! Poaching may be attracting the attention now but I think that has a lot to do with the ban. As for people losing there permision because of poaching, the landowners who are taking away there permision must be very shallow! Edited November 10, 2008 by joe ox Quote Link to post
Guest Top Chalker Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 pals just been on phone he is at driffield waiting for a train .he got caught coursing and had motor confiscated he is sick as f**k Did he have permission on the land for "rabbiting"? no he did not A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? If they NEVER POACH themselves they have a leg to stand on , but do the lads you no pinch a run of other peoples land if they do what can they say ??????? they may not ,but every one i no who has permission still runs on land they shouldnt !!!!FACT Quote Link to post
martini 2 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? Come on inan dont start blaming it all on the poachers again! We are all in this current mess together. Coursing hares daylight with or without permision attracted more attention than poachers when the antis were campaigning for the ban! Poaching may be attracting the attention now but I think that has a lot to do with the ban. As for people losing there permision because of poaching, the landowners who are taking away there permision must be very shallow! at the end off the day we r all poachers ,we had permission on land for coursing ,since the ban came in the farmer said u can go on my land coursing , BUT if the police come im gunna say u have not got permission to course, and l think that everyone off u that av permission,the land owner is gunna say the same ,as the land owner is not going to risk off getting nicked and taking to court ,over u lot just running a hare. they are on the side off the law all the time boys , so we are all poachers Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? Come on inan dont start blaming it all on the poachers again! We are all in this current mess together. Coursing hares daylight with or without permision attracted more attention than poachers when the antis were campaigning for the ban! Poaching may be attracting the attention now but I think that has a lot to do with the ban. As for people losing there permision because of poaching, the landowners who are taking away there permision must be very shallow! at the end off the day we r all poachers ,we had permission on land for coursing ,since the ban came in the farmer said u can go on my land coursing , BUT if the police come im gunna say u have not got permission to course, and l think that everyone off u that av permission,the land owner is gunna say the same ,as the land owner is not going to risk off getting nicked and taking to court ,over u lot just running a hare. they are on the side off the law all the time boys , so we are all poachers Poaching by definition is tresspassing in pursuit of game, i e without permission from the Land owner.Going on to land where you have permission for "rabbiting " ,is not poaching. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Joe i think what pisses landowners off to the extent that they ban all from useing there land is when idiots with no respect for anyone or anytiing drive over fields ruining crops ect , some landowners then get all the hares shot, imo this is the only fieldsport that should be banned the shooting of hares. Max I agree with that, I spoke to a keeper on a big estate not to far from us a few year ago and he said to me "if the estate gets trouble with poachers we have a shooting drive and everthing what lifts is shot" Quote Link to post
baz 464 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 its part of life now, if you go coursing and get caught you can get locked up, loose cars and dogs........they aint that keen on taking dogs, but VERY keen on keeping your motor, its just the way it is now Baz,my mate pointed me to a website as his name was mentioned on it for poaching back in the 90's,one of the anti-hunting sites naming and shaming people and on the page i read there was lads loseing motors,dogs,being banned from driving EVEN when they were just passengers ,£4000 fines weren't uncommon either..infact i'll post the link if it causes offence to anyone either shout up or one of the moderators can remove it,just have a look at some of the shit these lads have received from the judicial services throughout the country .Cheers Andy. READ THIS... good link its unreal the fines and punishment that are dished out for hunting, yet i know of cases that people have had £50 fines for burgalry, or touching kids up they get stuck on a registar, they dont loose motors or get £4000 fines, british justice for you Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 A group of people who have had permission for over 25 years have just lost their running ground due to the activites of poachers ,another lad I know has just lost a fen through the same thing,how do you think these guys feel about poachers? Come on inan dont start blaming it all on the poachers again! We are all in this current mess together. Coursing hares daylight with or without permision attracted more attention than poachers when the antis were campaigning for the ban! Poaching may be attracting the attention now but I think that has a lot to do with the ban. As for people losing there permision because of poaching, the landowners who are taking away there permision must be very shallow! Im just putting the other side of the argument Joe.If you think a farmer being threatened ,his gates and fences being knocked down by 4x4 s and his crops run over by clever little chappies in 4x4s is shallow for saying,"actually dont come any more ",is shallow, thats your opinion.I coursed hares in daylight for over 30 years without a problem.A question for you , do you think the activities of poachers at the present are a positive or negative for the image of coursing and field sports in general? What if it were you who had built up a couple of running grounds over the years kept good relations with the land owner and respected his crops and livestock ,one day you ring up and ask is it ok for me and Fred to come up Sat for a couple of runs on the "rabbits"? only to be told Iv'e had gangs of arseholes all over my land this week I'm shutting up shop and shooting the hares now ,would you be happy? Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Joe i think what pisses landowners off to the extent that they ban all from useing there land is when idiots with no respect for anyone or anytiing drive over fields ruining crops ect , some landowners then get all the hares shot, imo this is the only fieldsport that should be banned the shooting of hares. Max I agree with that, I spoke to a keeper on a big estate not to far from us a few year ago and he said to me "if the estate gets trouble with poachers we have a shooting drive and everthing what lifts is shot" A friend of mine has some good runnning ground for "rabbits",we asked about a spot of lamping ,as they are overurn with bunnies ,we confidently expected a yes please!,We were told by the Keeper he is out at least twice a week due to poachers ,running the deer ,firing crossbows at all and sundry,and ploughing through new laid fields of wheat in 4x4s.Result no lamping!My nearest permission hasn't got a bunny on it ,because it is in walking distance of a caravan site.I just love those fellas that haven't been bothered over the years to get any permission ,,and now when they get nicked ,start bleating about it.Jimmy Ford used to put on the Forley Cup,the aggro he got with poachers you wouldn't beleive. Quote Link to post
daggy 0 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 to be honest at this moment in time the whole system f*****g sucks people who have a way of life are being fined and punnished for doing what comes natural to us as human beings. hunting has been around for a lot longer than the idiots who rule this country and with the help of people like us will go on for a long time after them! as i am still young i live in hope that one day the people who rule the contry will come to there senses and over rule this an it is the stupidest law and causes more inconvenience than anything else it is totally pointless and pisses me right off! Quote Link to post
lanesra 3,994 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 the law where coursing is concerned is very straight forward after readin clive rees in earth dog runnin dog (cant find the edition it was in) . If your hunting on permission and your dog lifts a hare while off the lead huntin up rabbits,courses and kills the hare with no encouragement from yourself you cannot be prosecuted, so bein seen/caught with a dead hare/hares and dog/dogs is not a case of guilty as some people believe,hunters and the law alike. The problems start when your positivly seen slippin a dog to a hare or encouragin a dog on a course . I cant remember all the article but im positive im right in what im sayin, has someone got the piece by clive reese its well worth knowin all the facts. Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 the law where coursing is concerned is very straight forward after readin clive rees in earth dog runnin dog (cant find the edition it was in) . If your hunting on permission and your dog lifts a hare while off the lead huntin up rabbits,courses and kills the hare with no encouragement from yourself you cannot be prosecuted, so bein seen/caught with a dead hare/hares and dog/dogs is not a case of guilty as some people believe,hunters and the law alike. The problems start when your positivly seen slippin a dog to a hare or encouragin a dog on a course . I cant remember all the article but im positive im right in what im sayin, has someone got the piece by clive reese its well worth knowin all the facts. Actuallly having permission on the ground would be an advantage ,don't you think? : Quote Link to post
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