Pike/Barbel

[pluckers son 0]

dont think pike feed in the dark(but i could be wrong).....but night time has always been best for my barbel fishing on the trent,cant beat it mate 24 cans and lots of hot grub+the bivvy,bed and gas fire better than sat at home watching eastenders.

 

hope to see some pics of the BIG FISH....

Edited November 8, 2008 by pluckers son

[pluckers son 0]

just seen this on barbel world http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/16107

[mackem 26,471]

Thats a stunning looking fish

[comanche 3,001]

im going to be fishing a stretch upstream from dorking, aparently no-ones fished there for a long while, so hopefully there could be some deep dark secrets in there somewhere, just a case of where! theres another stretch i would like to fish too but i think that would be a case of mackem style nocturnal fishing any tips on night pikeing, any point?

 

cheers for all the help barbus and crew!

 

Molie

Mickleham stretch? The Box hill bit could be fun .Plenty of small chub and catchable roach/dace/perch etc to keep the interest up and always the chance of the odd better fish as a bonus but I'm going back some years. For this sort of fishing and piking I'd probably go for a minimal tackle ,mobile approach,move-on when a swim goes dead but of barbel I have no real experience so barbus has to be" the man", although I did hook and lose one in my local millstream once ! How it got there one can only guess.

Pike do detect deadbaits by scent .I've watched pike home-in on a dead fish and very delicately pick it up--nothing like the slashing take used on a live fish. I've had the odd jack while night fishing but on the southern rivers I fish the magic time for pike seems to be the last hour or so of a winter afternoon -just as the light fades and the temperature drops.

Pic enclosed of what I reckon is a great lure set-up for these small/ medium rivers. note the weight pushed into the breast of the lure ,aids casting and acts as a keel to keep the bait stable in the water ,the trebles high on the flanks so you can fish slow even in shallow water without snagging the bottom. All you need now is a pike with a rubber fetish ..Good luck!

Edited November 8, 2008 by comanche

[Barbus 0]

Thats a stunning looking fish

 

It came out last year too at twenty pounds and was one of only 2 twenty pounders officaly recorded, the other was a fish called the Traveller which died last year from Adams Mill on the great Ouse.

[kingfisher 0]

just seen this on barbel world http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/16107

now thats a barbel

[mackem 26,471]

Thats a stunning looking fish

 

It came out last year too at twenty pounds and was one of only 2 twenty pounders officaly recorded, the other was a fish called the Traveller which died last year from Adams Mill on the great Ouse.

Nooooo,its a sad day when Barbel are also named the same as carp

[runforyourlife 361]

dont think pike feed in the dark(but i could be wrong).....but night time has always been best for my barbel fishing on the trent,cant beat it mate 24 cans and lots of hot grub+the bivvy,bed and gas fire better than sat at home watching eastenders.

 

hope to see some pics of the BIG FISH....

 

 

 

Now that made me laugh, "pike dont feed at night".....

[mackem 26,471]

Its still a misconception runforyourlife,my biggest pike was at night,had quite a few after dark,yet people still tell me "pike dont feed at night" :clapper"

[runforyourlife 361]

im going to be fishing a stretch upstream from dorking, aparently no-ones fished there for a long while, so hopefully there could be some deep dark secrets in there somewhere, just a case of where! theres another stretch i would like to fish too but i think that would be a case of mackem style nocturnal fishing any tips on night pikeing, any point?

 

cheers for all the help barbus and crew!

 

Molie

Mickleham stretch? The Box hill bit could be fun .Plenty of small chub and catchable roach/dace/perch etc to keep the interest up and always the chance of the odd better fish as a bonus but I'm going back some years. For this sort of fishing and piking I'd probably go for a minimal tackle ,mobile approach,move-on when a swim goes dead but of barbel I have no real experience so barbus has to be" the man", although I did hook and lose one in my local millstream once ! How it got there one can only guess.

Pike do detect deadbaits by scent .I've watched pike home-in on a dead fish and very delicately pick it up--nothing like the slashing take used on a live fish. I've had the odd jack while night fishing but on the southern rivers I fish the magic time for pike seems to be the last hour or so of a winter afternoon -just as the light fades and the temperature drops.

Pic enclosed of what I reckon is a great lure set-up for these small/ medium rivers. note the weight pushed into the breast of the lure ,aids casting and acts as a keel to keep the bait stable in the water ,the trebles high on the flanks so you can fish slow even in shallow water without snagging the bottom. All you need now is a pike with a rubber fetish ..Good luck!

 

 

 

These rubber shads are good fish pullers, especially on rivers. I had 3 spawn bound 20lb plusers, in an evening shad fishing on the ouze.

 

The set up should be different to the one pictured tho. As the ones in the pic will miss many striking pike.

 

The hold at the beak of the shad can be a number 2 sea hook(single) pushed thro the chin and out the nose. The next hook should be along the flank, then carry the wire on and out an inch before the tail then have a number 2 treble(or lure hook) trailing from the shad. This hook will catch more pike than you would believe. It hooks the pike what miss the shad on the strike!!

 

As for night piking, it can be very very productive, depending on which or what kind of water you are fishing.. Many hard fished waters start to respond at night(like any water and any fish which get preasured throughout the day)..

 

In the early 90's, i fished a cold deep nw resiviour through the night for over 2 years. The reason for this, was quite simple, i was poaching, and couldnt get on any other time. When i did manage to, it was still good sport with many big fish.

In those 2 years of night fishing i banked over 100 double figure pike, with 18 going over 20lb. I could set my clock by the pike on there, and at 1.15am to 1.30am, i would usually get 2 runs!

I have had 3 20lbers in different areas from loch lomond in the night, while being nicely cuddled up in my bivvy!! gutted, lol.. NIGHT FISHING FOR PIKE CAN BE VERY PRODUCTIVE. Altho i dont see the need to do it, unless you have to..

 

 

And the easiest way and most productive way to catch pike from a river is simply wobbling a dead bait!

 

You dont say yournto lure fishing, so why use them, and why spend money on them. Obviously a lure angler will catch and catch well(i do very little else these days, than just trolling my lures from my boat) Get some roach dead baits and wobble them. Its a killer method on a river, it really is.

 

Make sure you fish the snags,the shallows, but most of all get a bait as far down to cover the depths as possible. Basically cover all areas. I had a 34 on a lure from a yorkshire river. The lure was bouncing bottom at 28ft!! Ithen had a 30 from a scottish river in 2ft of water while wobbling a jack pike! So try all areas, and dont forget about under your feet but keep quiet. good luck, and keep us in formed.....

[Barbus 0]

Thats a stunning looking fish

 

It came out last year too at twenty pounds and was one of only 2 twenty pounders officaly recorded, the other was a fish called the Traveller which died last year from Adams Mill on the great Ouse.

Nooooo,its a sad day when Barbel are also named the same as carp

 

I know what your saying mate,sounds sad naming wild critters, its done really to aid in fish ID, its easier to say the "traveller" rather than say "the fish that can be found anywhere on the stretch that has a tear in its left dorsal and looks like its swallowed a rugby ball".

Some of the fish where I'm at the mo are named and it is interesting just to see how they change from season to season and how much the weight moves up and down.

[runforyourlife 361]

Thats a stunning looking fish

 

It came out last year too at twenty pounds and was one of only 2 twenty pounders officaly recorded, the other was a fish called the Traveller which died last year from Adams Mill on the great Ouse.

Nooooo,its a sad day when Barbel are also named the same as carp

 

I know what your saying mate,sounds sad naming wild critters, its done really to aid in fish ID, its easier to say the "traveller" rather than say "the fish that can be found anywhere on the stretch that has a tear in its left dorsal and looks like its swallowed a rugby ball".

Some of the fish where I'm at the mo are named and it is interesting just to see how they change from season to season and how much the weight moves up and down.

 

 

So thats the excuse is it, lol. Pike get caught over, but no names appear. You learn the marking of fish(pics etc) so you can identify them, and see how they change through out the year...

[Barbus 0]

Yep thats right you learn the markings of the fish and then name it to make it easier for future reference.........thats all I'm saying. No rights and wrongs ,just opinions!!

[runforyourlife 361]

Yep thats right you learn the markings of the fish and then name it to make it easier for future reference.........thats all I'm saying. No rights and wrongs ,just opinions!!

 

 

Yeah thats right, no rules, if you look, i put "lol" as i said it, you know tongue in cheek...

[Molie1337 35]

Runforyourlife, and comanche. thanks for all the advice! the stretch isnt far from mickleham, upstream a few miles from there. i was planning on goin out this weekend but with shite weather and a stinking cold it wasnt to be! ill keep you informed about it all as and when it goes on!! planning doesnt come well to me so you'll just have to wait with baited breath, or hooks!

 

Cheers again!

Molie