Suicide by air rifle ?

[ghillies 209]

theres a good point here.. there must be some come kind of provisions in the law for such cases? buggered if i can find it though. after all you can be sectioned to protect yourself from yourself?

Edited November 6, 2008 by ghillies

[JPTfellterrier 65]

i dont get it, how many people a year top themselves with paracetamol? Do the daft bobbys want that banned? ...... NO!

 

But one guy with obvious mental health issues kills himself with an airgun and every Tom, Dick and Harry is bleating for them to be banned? i wonder, .... could there be another agenda?

 

 

very much agree there

[maty j 6]

Aye he must have wanted a really grim and painful death

 

 

Doesn't really sound like much of a suicide shooting yourself In the stomach

with an air rifle

 

That's just the thing. Surely If your going to shoot yourself with an air rifle and meant to kill yourself, why In the stomach Cry for help or attention gone wrong?

[biffo 0]

theres many many ways to kill yourself. does the coroner want all of them banned? even if we were to tear down all the bridges, high buildings, ban rope, knives, airguns, paracetamol, trains, cars etc etc people will still find a way to commit suicide.

[Guest hyperion]

Aye he must have wanted a really grim and painful death

 

 

Doesn't really sound like much of a suicide shooting yourself In the stomach

with an air rifle

 

That's just the thing. Surely If your going to shoot yourself with an air rifle and meant to kill yourself, why In the stomach Cry for help or attention gone wrong?

 

sounds more like a cry for help gone wrong than an attempt to kill him self to me!

[cometa300s 20]

thats bad news that shouldnt of done it with an air rifle. laws will soon chage

[Malt 379]

theres many many ways to kill yourself. does the coroner want all of them banned? even if we were to tear down all the bridges, high buildings, ban rope, knives, airguns, paracetamol, trains, cars etc etc people will still find a way to commit suicide.

That was going to be pretty much my reply as I read through these posts!

[spike 0]

Aye he must have wanted a really grim and painful death

 

 

Doesn't really sound like much of a suicide shooting yourself In the stomach

with an air rifle

 

That's just the thing. Surely If your going to shoot yourself with an air rifle and meant to kill yourself, why In the stomach Cry for help or attention gone wrong?

 

sounds more like a cry for help gone wrong than an attempt to kill him self to me!

 

A late reply to thos, but I would think this is likely.

A sad situation whatever the upshot (pardon the pun)

[mad al 146]

wonder what rifle he used, could be a bargain buy come to think of it , bet it was was of them Chinese feckers and really it was an accidental death due to their fecking unreliability

[victor 10]

probns would ahve know that a head shot wouldnt do it. or wasnt think right, as you dont when your depressed. poor b*****d to have to do it like that

[ghillies 209]

the narmal 'reflexs' in situations like this dont apply...

 

basicaly, well early in life you form idealisms and philosiphies in life, you learn and imprint what responces to give to diferent curcumstances, 'you dont swear in front of women' you 'do as your told at school' etc etc etc..

going a little deeper you form predudaces and 'tabbo's' are formed.... it's 'pre set' on an unsead understanding that you things like 'all gays are adnarmal' or suicide is not an aption etc(two oposite reasonings there).

 

so... all the so called narmal stuff you've learnt has a sort of rule to it, or a path you can take.. when your ill those reasoning things add up stupidly rong (hense predudaces are sort of mentally ill because they aded up rong,as do tabbo's).

 

simplest way to put it is;

 

your whole esence the second your born is to survive, to live... all your bodily funtions are designed to live, everything in your head is of the apinion your life is important and does all it can to do so.

so, the narmal life sais get better.. live more..live long as posable, every hour/day/week your alive theres a chance of life ... untill..

hmmmm you get ill.. you feel bad.. oh lifes unbareable... hold up a minute, its simply not nice NOW? ok, you get flue, boy that feels bad, but do you give up and die? neh..yu know not to, you live through it.

suicidal is indeed 'illness'... it has it's own set of new narmals, like dying is the aim(this conflicts a bit with living and sort of addles any narmal responces or thoughts'ish).. the whole thing evolves around missing this simple basic (or dealing with it)...(tabboo's mean people are scared to talk about it..so the things like ill people can't get help, or are aloud to continue on a rong way of thinking...or just get persicuted).

 

if your ill it isnt the answer... simple as. to want to kill your self is against what you were made to do, there fore not the answer because you are indeed ill.. if your ill it's not the right choise..

 

doesnt matter how you reason it, the same thing little curcle apears.. you born to live, to want to die instantly lets you know your ill, there fore the desition to die is not the answer........ theres no tricks to it.

 

final answer NOT AN OPTION........ once you know this, you now have the option to live. now wether you like it or dislike it at the time is just an opinion, there fore can be changed either way, so help would help.

 

 

edited in... most males get depressed at some time or other, over the age of thirty to fourty gues what..it's more than likely.. prepair for it just incase.. it is the old boy scout issue, be prepaired, IT WILL HELP YOU if it happens, if it doesnt happen then good, but at least you'll know enough to be of help when your freind/family work colegue's suffer it.. instead of the ignorent's of tabboo.

(most people encounter mental ilnes..being sad is a 'form of it' happynes can be classed as a euphoric reflex and so on... the diference is what you know,who you are and things that make you.... bad attitudes in general make your life shit.. good attitudes make your life more fruitfull, and can even help those around you and help you in return.)..

Edited November 8, 2008 by ghillies

[hw97 8]

the narmal 'reflexs' in situations like this dont apply...

 

basicaly, well early in life you form idealisms and philosiphies in life, you learn and imprint what responces to give to diferent curcumstances, 'you dont swear in front of women' you 'do as your told at school' etc etc etc..

going a little deeper you form predudaces and 'tabbo's' are formed.... it's 'pre set' on an unsead understanding that you things like 'all gays are adnarmal' or suicide is not an aption etc(two oposite reasonings there).

 

so... all the so called narmal stuff you've learnt has a sort of rule to it, or a path you can take.. when your ill those reasoning things add up stupidly rong (hense predudaces are sort of mentally ill because they aded up rong,as do tabbo's).

 

simplest way to put it is;

 

your whole esence the second your born is to survive, to live... all your bodily funtions are designed to live, everything in your head is of the apinion your life is important and does all it can to do so.

so, the narmal life sais get better.. live more..live long as posable, every hour/day/week your alive theres a chance of life ... untill..

hmmmm you get ill.. you feel bad.. oh lifes unbareable... hold up a minute, its simply not nice NOW? ok, you get flue, boy that feels bad, but do you give up and die? neh..yu know not to, you live through it.

suicidal is indeed 'illness'... it has it's own set of new narmals, like dying is the aim(this conflicts a bit with living and sort of addles any narmal responces or thoughts'ish).. the whole thing evolves around missing this simple basic (or dealing with it)...(tabboo's mean people are scared to talk about it..so the things like ill people can't get help, or are aloud to continue on a rong way of thinking...or just get persicuted).

 

if your ill it isnt the answer... simple as. to want to kill your self is against what you were made to do, there fore not the answer because you are indeed ill.. if your ill it's not the right choise..

 

doesnt matter how you reason it, the same thing little curcle apears.. you born to live, to want to die instantly lets you know your ill, there fore the desition to die is not the answer........ theres no tricks to it.

 

final answer NOT AN OPTION........ once you know this, you now have the option to live. now wether you like it or dislike it at the time is just an opinion, there fore can be changed either way, so help would help.

 

 

edited in... most males get depressed at some time or other, over the age of thirty to fourty gues what..it's more than likely.. prepair for it just incase.. it is the old boy scout issue, be prepaired, IT WILL HELP YOU if it happens, if it doesnt happen then good, but at least you'll know enough to be of help when your freind/family work colegue's suffer it.. instead of the ignorent's of tabboo.

(most people encounter mental ilnes..being sad is a 'form of it' happynes can be classed as a euphoric reflex and so on... the diference is what you know,who you are and things that make you.... bad attitudes in general make your life shit.. good attitudes make your life more fruitfull, and can even help those around you and help you in return.)..

whats that big essay about?

[Biffo1262 0]

!! Edited November 8, 2008 by Biffo1262

[ghillies 209]

dunno lol... it's a simple concept made dyslexicaly big

[mikecat1 0]

SAD SAD SAD situation !! but then lifes a bitch sometimes, just look on the bright side its not one of us !!!!!!!

ANYWAY ......do anyone know if his gun is for sale ?????

Edited November 8, 2008 by mikecat1