Exercise After Working ?

[Gaoler 83]

Hello All,

 

My 4 year old black lab works really hard on our shoot, it is very hilly and thick woodland for most of the day.

 

The following day the dog is quite stiff, what type of exercise is best to loosen her up again ?

 

Thanks

John...

[villebones 4]

Hello All,

 

My 4 year old black lab works really hard on our shoot, it is very hilly and thick woodland for most of the day.

 

The following day the dog is quite stiff, what type of exercise is best to loosen her up again ?

 

Thanks

John...

 

Id say swimming mate?

[farlap 19]

Hello All,

 

My 4 year old black lab works really hard on our shoot, it is very hilly and thick woodland for most of the day.

 

The following day the dog is quite stiff, what type of exercise is best to loosen her up again ?

 

Thanks

John...

 

Id say swimming mate?

swimming means you have to get her very very dry afterwards, especially in winter. personally i would say a gentle walk the next day would be more beneficial.

[coldweld 65]

i would have thought a day walking around the house or garden would be enough . if you ran a around for 20 + miles in a day what would you do the next day ?

Bet it would not be a 2 mile jog !

[Guest ESS]

Hello All,

 

My 4 year old black lab works really hard on our shoot, it is very hilly and thick woodland for most of the day.

 

The following day the dog is quite stiff, what type of exercise is best to loosen her up again ?

 

Thanks

John...

 

Id say swimming mate?

 

 

Bit cold for swimming unless you know someone with a hydro therapy pool lol,,, Farlap correct just agentle walk nothing at all

Edited November 1, 2008 by ESS

[mad al 146]

i would have thought a day walking around the house or garden would be enough . if you ran a around for 20 + miles in a day what would you do the next day ?

Bet it would not be a 2 mile jog !

 

 

Well actually how wrong that is, I competed a fair bit and after a race it was essential to "warm down" properly, which would be a jog of a couple of miles. The other thing that is often overlooked is the need to "warm up", this prevents injury such as torn muscles.

With dogs I'd say they need to have the same sort of input, I know this would be difficult if you had to travel in a vehicle to get a run, my tendency is to walk to a permission get the dogs working and then warm them down via the walk home.

I think a lot of folk over look temperature as well as already said, a wet dog, usual by sweating is at serious risk in low temperatures

[coldweld 65]

Sorry Al but it is not true that warming up prevents injuries .

 

The kiwi uni did some testing on rugby teams around 2000 and found no evidence of more or less injuries due to warming up .

 

While warming up and down IS recommended they proved that it will not reduce the amount of injuries.

 

A dog that has had a full days beating is full of lactic acid and a warm down can not be done the next day.

 

 

How far your races were over ?

 

 

I have never seen a dog wet with sweat

[fraggle 4]

Sorry Al but it is not true that warming up prevents injuries .

 

The kiwi uni did some testing on rugby teams around 2000 and found no evidence of more or less injuries due to warming up .

 

While warming up and down IS recommended they proved that it will not reduce the amount of injuries.

 

A dog that has had a full days beating is full of lactic acid and a warm down can not be done the next day.

 

 

How far your races were over ?

 

 

I have never seen a dog wet with sweat

 

 

i cant see how this works, going from cold to printing mut pay havoc on the muscles if there still tight, plus i would see lack of performance, i know when i do pt in the army a warm up is regarded as one of the ost important parts of the session.

 

But if its been done scientificaly then what can i say but, gona tell the pti's now so they cant beast us for 10 mins before the pt starts lol.

[pointer28 1]

I would say a gentle walk the following day just to keep the muscles supple and stop them cramping, especially if the dog is kept kennelled all the time. If they are a house dog and the run of a garden then they will keep supple just be pottering around all day. A dog kept kennelled is more likely to just lie in bed.

 

We found with hunting horses that if they have a hard days hunting, the worst thing to do is leave them in the stable the following day. Instead, we took them out for a short, gentle hack and they seemed to recover better.

[mad al 146]

Sorry Al but it is not true that warming up prevents injuries .

 

The kiwi uni did some testing on rugby teams around 2000 and found no evidence of more or less injuries due to warming up .

 

While warming up and down IS recommended they proved that it will not reduce the amount of injuries.

 

A dog that has had a full days beating is full of lactic acid and a warm down can not be done the next day.

 

 

How far your races were over ?

 

 

I have never seen a dog wet with sweat

 

Well I and all the other runners in the world due to our ignorance must have dreamed we had injuries to our Archillies Tendons and calf muscles which are the two most likely things to go when you just run "cold" and warming up does definitely help prevent this and that is found out usually the herd way. The next day is too late to warm for sure and I used to warm down usually with a group of other competitors as soon as possible after the race, the benefits of doing so are usually found out again through ignorance spelled CRAMP, I remember running a half marathon and at the end you were allowed free use of the leisure center's facilities which included the swimming pool, quite a site to see a herd of runners launching themselves out of the water as soon as the chill got to their ham strings.

The run the next day is purely for recovery and again to sort out any stiffness, for me this for first thing in the morning before work, just a couple of miles with the knowledge that I'd run again that evening, again the next morning followed by a track session under our coaches supervision. I have raced from 200m to marathon for county, country and even scored some points for a GB & NI team in the world champs for oldies in cross country so I know just a little bit about the requirements to try and run injury free.

If you don't take care of muscles/joints etc show will get injured and you will get "over use injuries", tendonitis and a really common one is "shin splints" which usually comes about early on in running by too much running on hard surface or crap footwear, the main worry with this type of thing is the tendency by more dedicated runners to run "through" it and that is when there is a very high risk of the injury becoming a stress fracture.

 

I don't like being told that what I said is not true, as what I write is what I know, usually through my own stupidity, but it is still the truth.

 

As for a dog wet with sweat, fox hounds are a pretty good one to find this on, especially when they have got seperated from the pack and end up on your door step in this state.

[coldweld 65]

Sorry again mad al !

 

But i got it slightly wrong [ but only the place ]

 

It was Australia not New Zealand

 

Study was by

Department of Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine

Monash University

Central & Eastern Clinical School

Alfred Hospital

Commercial Road

Vic 3004

Australia

 

Results of the study was out of 5 groups studied on the effects of warming up exercises of reducing injury on the Human body were.

 

3 said warming up significantly reduced the effect of injuries

 

2 said warming up was not significantly effective at reducing injuries

 

The Conclusion reached was Insignificant evidence to endorse or discount that warming up reduced injuries .

 

 

As for dogs sweating what the foxhound is most likely covered in is saliva .

 

Dogs and cats have txo types of sweat glands the Merocrine glands are in between the foot pads and are for body cooling.

The other type of sweat glands are and the animals body and are called Opocrine Glands BUT these do not cool the body and only release Pheromones.

 

Sorry if you were or are offended by my replies this was NOT intended

[mad al 146]

these must all be wrong then

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/warmup.htm

http://www.safesport.co.uk/SafeExerciseWar...oolingDown.html

http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?article=2339

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Importance-o...n&id=933514

http://www.allsportmedical.co.uk/first-aid...-Cool-Down.aspx

 

and these are just a few , the other thing is this, any major athletics venue has a "warm up area", I know I've used some

[coldweld 65]

Quote :- MAD AL

I don't like being told that what I said is not true, as what I write is what I know, usually through my own stupidity, but it is still the truth.

 

Hi Al

 

 

Please read my posts before you post . If due to the red mist coming down and you can't see go and sit down have a cup of decaff and calm down .

 

I only pointed out the scientific evidence and the conclusion of that was to carry on warming up !!

 

 

Have you any points on the dog sweat issue or am i right about that one ?

Edited November 4, 2008 by coldweld

[mad al 146]

Quote :- MAD AL

I don't like being told that what I said is not true, as what I write is what I know, usually through my own stupidity, but it is still the truth.

 

Hi Al

 

 

Please read my posts before you post . If due to the red mist coming down and you can't see go and sit down have a cup of decaff and calm down .

 

I only pointed out the scientific evidence and the conclusion of that was to carry on warming up !!

 

 

Have you any points on the dog sweat issue or am i right about that one ?

 

erm no, how does that sound?

[coldweld 65]

Sounds like you confirming what i thought you were !