the fezz 44 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) hello all hope someone can help me . got a 1.8 derv van since the cold weather has come its a bugger to start so ive put new glow plugs in and cheaked the plug realy and there all fine but it still is not willing to start , it sounds like it wants to go but it takes 10 -15mins to get going .once it started it will start first time even when its sitting in work for 8 hours its only in the morning any help would be great ,thanks Fezz Edited October 30, 2008 by the fezz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mally 832 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) It could be the filter/lift pump housing mate. I had the same problem with mine and it was the lift pump diaphram,,, also if i used cherry it was a b*****d to start from cold......... Edited October 30, 2008 by mally Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mossman330 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 during the cold months i always add kerosene. about 1/3 Moss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the fezz 44 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It could be the glowplug relay mate, My old escort was the same. I tested the old glowplugs i took out on an old battery and they all worked fine!!!!. If you have an auto electrician near you mate get him to check it for you, they don't usually charge you for this if you buy the relay from them ive cheaked the realy mate its fine, thanks during the cold months i always add kerosene. about 1/3Moss. why kerosene mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the fezz 44 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It could be the filter/lift pump housing mate. I had the same problem with mine and it was the lift pump diaphram,,, also if i used cherry it was a b*****d to start from cold........ dont use the cheery mate , how much did the lift pump diaphram cost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mossman330 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 kerosene has a lower freezing temp. than diesel but burns the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxy 617 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Its your battery!!!!!! I will only be wrong if you have just put a new one on, ( and i will look a twit lol ) Get a proper battery tester, or go to a garage and get them to test it for you. Not a multi meter, this will only tell you the current charge the altenator is putting out or the current output of the battery ie 12v!!! Its all relevant if you think about it, not to mention an escort van is the biggest sack of shi* i have ever had the pleasure to own. Good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the fezz 44 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Its your battery!!!!!! I will only be wrong if you have just put a new one on, ( and i will look a twit lol ) Get a proper battery tester, or go to a garage and get them to test it for you. Not a multi meter, this will only tell you the current charge the altenator is putting out or the current output of the battery ie 12v!!! Its all relevant if you think about it, not to mention an escort van is the biggest sack of shi* i have ever had the pleasure to own. Good luck dont nock my van it does 70 miles to a £10 the battery has plenty of life in it but does start to die after 10mins of trying to start will take it and see what they say , thanks everyone for the help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedro 39 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Deffo sounds like your battery mate, ive drove diesels for years and have had this a few times, ive changed glow plugs, filters ect and its always been the battery thasts at fault, unless its your alternater thats not right?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxy 617 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Not nocking yer van pal, i have one lol Mine was the same, would happilly turn over for 10 mins before the battery getting tired. I popped new heater plugs in, give it a good service, checked this and that and tinkered away for hours, it still left me scratching my head and my arse. Gave the battery a good charge and hey presto!! Didnt last very long as the battery wasnt holding full charge. One new battery and job was sorted. The thing is, if it runs then it can only be a couple of things at fault, eliminate them one by one and your left with your fault. Have you tried warming your glow plugs up for around 8-10 times before you turn the engine over?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
landrover 6 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 get the timing checked it could be a little out,my landrover was the same,as soon as i did the timing every thing was fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the fezz 44 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Not nocking yer van pal, i have one lol Mine was the same, would happilly turn over for 10 mins before the battery getting tired. I popped new heater plugs in, give it a good service, checked this and that and tinkered away for hours, it still left me scratching my head and my arse. Gave the battery a good charge and hey presto!! Didnt last very long as the battery wasnt holding full charge. One new battery and job was sorted. The thing is, if it runs then it can only be a couple of things at fault, eliminate them one by one and your left with your fault. Have you tried warming your glow plugs up for around 8-10 times before you turn the engine over?? ive takin that battery of and its on charge for the night , so fingers x its going to start first thing ,cheers mate get the timing checked it could be a little out,my landrover was the same,as soon as i did the timing every thing was fine its had a new belt on a few months ago so but will keep it in mind thanks mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
landrover 6 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 there will be the diesel pump and cam timing marks that need to be in line if either is out you will have the problem that you describe aslso as someone said the battery needs to be a lot more ampage for diesel than it doe's for a petrol engine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,179 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 hello all hope someone can help me . got a 1.8 derv van since the cold weather has come its a bugger to start so ive put new glow plugs in and cheaked the plug realy and there all fine but it still is not willing to start , it sounds like it wants to go but it takes 10 -15mins to get going .once it started it will start first time even when its sitting in work for 8 hours its only in the morning any help would be great ,thanks Fezz had the same problem on vw transporter, changed fuel filter [water in diesal] problem solved.. worth a try.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 379 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 how fast is motor turning over?if it's sluggish and bat ok check engine earth straps and then you can check starter motor. the brushes or bearings may be worn if so starter will be heating up and draining battery. as it' alraedy been said the fords do have a problem with the fiter housing/pump. hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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