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[chimp 299]

dawn have YOU seen a fight ? but your friend has so that makes you an expert on the subject ? im glad as that sounds like nothing more then peta tittle tattle . i have posted pics of horns of both toro and rodeo but you still disagree ?

i will continue to watch fights and run with them when i see fit

is it any wonder why fox hunting got banned ? fox hunting never intrested me but i would never slate it as it is a traditional sport and as i hunt i feel i should protect anyother forms of hunting.

i will sleep well tonight safe in the knowledge that dawns mate of a mate great uncle once watched a bullfight on a grainy t.v. round mccartneys house.

[zap 4]

Another thing to consider is that these people are making money from bullfighting shows. Anywhere that kind of money is involved, welfare is gonna be compromised. I think at this stage is more of a tourist attraction.

That's a hell of a generalisation there fella. Where's your next stop, game shoots?

yip i agree with you there maltenby he going a whole new direction with that comment

[jembo 0]

Just so everyone is clear!!!

 

Portugues Bull Fighting:

 

Cavaleiro and bullMain article: Portuguese-style bullfighting

Most Portuguese bullfights are held in two phases: the spectacle of the cavaleiro, and the pega. In the cavaleiro, a horseman on a Portuguese Lusitano horse (specially trained for the fights) fights the bull from horseback. The purpose of this fight is to stab three or four bandeirilhas (small javelins) in the back of the bull.

 

 

The pega.In the second stage, called the pega ("holding"), the forcados, a group of eight men, challenge the bull directly without any protection or weapon of defense. The front man provokes the bull into a charge to perform a pega de cara or pega de caras (face grab). The front man secures the animal's head and is quickly aided by his fellows who surround and secure the animal until he is subdued. [9]

 

The bull is not killed in the ring and, at the end of the corrida, leading oxen are let into the arena and two campinos on foot herd the bull along them back to its pen. The bull is usually killed, away from the audience's sight, by a professional butcher. It can happen that some bulls, after an exceptional performance, are healed, released to pasture until their end days and used for breeding.

 

Thanks Jembo, I thought I was right. I assumed we were discussing Bull fighting as its a Spanish tradition more so than Portuguese.

 

 

Feck knows what we are discussing now, the clip i put up was of a Lusitano horse, therefore Portuguese. Correct me if I am wrong, but Spanish bull fighting does not contain horses?????

[Malt 379]

I agree with you there Mackem.

 

I wonder whether we were so busy condemning other cultures that we failed to see our own disappear.

 

As you've said though, the Spanish won't give a f**k either way. Good on 'em.

[Back Stabbath 1]

Another thing to consider is that these people are making money from bullfighting shows. Anywhere that kind of money is involved, welfare is gonna be compromised. I think at this stage is more of a tourist attraction.

That's a hell of a generalisation there fella. Where's your next stop, game shoots?

 

Look it up with huge money making organisations. 99% of the time its true. Money comes first.

I've never heard of a game shoot with as much money put into it as bullfighting. And come on, how can welfare be compromised in a game shoot?

Edited October 30, 2008 by Back Stabbath

[mackem 26,917]

Turn Wembley into an ampitheatre and coliseum for child murderers,bull-fighting is sooo last season

[fireman 10,932]

What is there to understand about a animal being killed like that?,because it's a bull it's ok?.Pish and if some lads that knew no better came on here and posted pics of the same but with a fox all and myself inclueded would say something,a nice romantic write up jembo but just as i said chased around speared,spiked and when fecked the matador try's to kill it.

[Malt 379]

Another thing to consider is that these people are making money from bullfighting shows. Anywhere that kind of money is involved, welfare is gonna be compromised. I think at this stage is more of a tourist attraction.

That's a hell of a generalisation there fella. Where's your next stop, game shoots?

 

Look it up with huge money making organisations. 99% of the time its true. Money comes first.

I've never heard of a game shoot with as much money put into it as bullfighting. And come on, how can welfare be compromised in a game shoot?

 

Games shoots are big, big business. Now I know you don't know what you're talking about.

 

NB; For all game shooters that might read this, I am in no way attacking your chosen pursuit.

[Back Stabbath 1]

So they may be maltenby, but I don't see an opportunity for welfare to be compromised. And I can't see them being as popular as bullfighting and attracting as many viewers as bullfighting. What tourist to England or Ireland says "oh I gotta go see a game shoot"? Hardly any I would think. A hell of a lot of tourists to Spain will deffo want to go see a bullfight. Way more income.

Its a stupid comparison.

Edited October 30, 2008 by Back Stabbath

[undisputed 1,664]

There is no comparison to hunting and bullfighting im a great believer in doing something for a reason and I partisapate in every type of hunting but my mane thing is to kill my quarry as quickly as possible and it always has a sporting chance to get away but bullfighting is just trying to make the wee prik of a matador look good by causeing pain and suffering to the bull why does it have to be swords ?why cant it be something else that doesnt slowly kill the bull I'll tell you why its cause the bull would have more stamina and would run all day and get the better of the little shit with the tight trousers and the stupid fukin hat ,and fuk off with all this fukin shit about tradition ,it was tradition to burn or drown any one that was thought to be a witch in this country but that doesnt make it right

 

 

JIMB ,

 

I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A VERY LONG HARD LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN..............

 

BECAUSE THE ANTIS USED THIS TYPE OF ARGUEMENT TO DO AWAY WITH COURSING AND HUNTING ...........

 

WHY NOT SHOOT THE POOR FOXES OR HARES ??????????????? ...............

 

 

LIKE IT OR NOT YOU HAVE TRASHED ANOTHERS TRADITIONS AND SPORT ................... DONT COMPLAIN WHEN THE SAME HAPPENS TO YOURS

 

 

DUCKWING

I stand by everything I say like I have already said everything for a reason there is no reason for bull fighting the point of it is to kill an animal as slowly as possible and make the matador look good while doing this .

I am involved in every type of hunting but theres reason for it ,vermin control and there is no comparison to hunting non whats so ever I would not eeven condone dog or cock fighting as a sport but bull fighting I just cant see what people see in it

 

 

Using your arguement there would be no reason for doing anything...dont hunt cause you can buy all your food nicely packed at the supermarket, ban boxing no reason why we should watch two men going at each other for entertainment is there cause thats just barbaric. Or how about ban motor racing what's the point of cars racing round a track?. this is part of Spanish culture and they should be left to it....the funny thing is that it probably will get banned one day cause like minded people like yourself are offended by it. We should all sit at home and vegitate in front of the telly cause there's no point to anything. There are far more important things to worry about in our own country than whats going on across the sea.

[JoeD 24]

Turn Wembley into an ampitheatre and coliseum for child murderers,bull-fighting is sooo last season

I second that.

[Dawn B 212]

dawn have YOU seen a fight ? but your friend has so that makes you an expert on the subject ? im glad as that sounds like nothing more then peta tittle tattle . i have posted pics of horns of both toro and rodeo but you still disagree ?

i will continue to watch fights and run with them when i see fit

is it any wonder why fox hunting got banned ? fox hunting never intrested me but i would never slate it as it is a traditional sport and as i hunt i feel i should protect anyother forms of hunting.

i will sleep well tonight safe in the knowledge that dawns mate of a mate great uncle once watched a bullfight on a grainy t.v. round mccartneys house.

Yes I disagree and I have given you proof, can you prove to the contrary? When was the last time you saw a Rodeo Bull killed buy the guy riding it? Be serious, we are talking about killing animals that have no way of escaping, that are injured and hindered BEFORE they begin, not trying to remain on ones back for 10 seconds and away they go!!

 

You are welcome to insult me if it makes you feel better, however I am right in this instance and you have provided me with no evidence to the contary. My "mates" and I will also continue to watch the videos they return with and we will also contunue to be completely dismayed at the corruption involved with what was once a true test of man and beast, and that is now a no win situation for the Bull in Spain.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

What is there to understand about a animal being killed like that?,because it's a bull it's ok?.Pish and if some lads that knew no better came on here and posted pics of the same but with a fox all and myself inclueded would say something,a nice romantic write up jembo but just as i said chased around speared,spiked and when fecked the matador try's to kill it.

Depends on how you feel about it I guess. In the far east they eat dog. So what? Don't like it? Don't do it then!

 

While bull fighting has never been my thing I don't see why it should attract such criticism from outside it's culture. It's not our culture so why should we even pretend to know what goes on.

 

The only consistency I've seen on this thread is the language. It's the same arguments that were used to ban fox hunting. Raw emotion. We've seen animals killed up close. It either bothers you or it doesn't. I'm sure The Bullfighting Life would be equally disgusted if a foreign country saw fit to try and dictate to it's culture.

[Back Stabbath 1]

dawn have YOU seen a fight ? but your friend has so that makes you an expert on the subject ? im glad as that sounds like nothing more then peta tittle tattle . i have posted pics of horns of both toro and rodeo but you still disagree ?

i will continue to watch fights and run with them when i see fit

is it any wonder why fox hunting got banned ? fox hunting never intrested me but i would never slate it as it is a traditional sport and as i hunt i feel i should protect anyother forms of hunting.

i will sleep well tonight safe in the knowledge that dawns mate of a mate great uncle once watched a bullfight on a grainy t.v. round mccartneys house.

Yes I disagree and I have given you proof, can you prove to the contrary? When was the last time you saw a Rodeo Bull killed buy the guy riding it? Be serious, we are talking about killing animals that have no way of escaping, that are injured and hindered BEFORE they begin, not trying to remain on ones back for 10 seconds and away they go!!

 

You are welcome to insult me if it makes you feel better, however I am right in this instance and you have provided me with no evidence to the contary. My "mates" and I will also continue to watch the videos they return with and we will also contunue to be completely dismayed at the corruption involved with what was once a true test of man and beast, and that is now a no win situation for the Bull in Spain.

 

Deffo.

[hollands hope 1,024]

Turn Wembley into an ampitheatre and coliseum for child murderers,bull-fighting is sooo last season

I second that.

And ill second that.