update from one out of my litter

[forest of dean redneck 11,679]

what are the pups going to be used for daytime work or lamping? labs n lurchers.

this was actually a serious question,you can pm the answer if you like.

[Hannah4181 260]

I stopped posting on this thread yesterday when my dog was laughed upon as a working dog. As i have said previously my Dalmation X is the best dog i've ever had and her agility/ability in a range of sports astounds me and most that have met her. I was never trying to start an argument but seemingly being on this sight and not knowing everything there is to know about Lurchers, makes you a sitting duck to critisism.

I joined the sight to learn things and further my K9 knowledge, stupidly maybe on my part.

It's nice to see that there are some open minded people on here that will advice and offer opinions that are not turning the thread into a petty argument.

 

Know 100% about Lurchers i may not, but having worked in Africa with big cats, and seen dogs over there of all different genetic make up, hunt big game. i'd like to think i can bring something to the table.

 

Like my Dalmation cross or not, she's fantastic and i love her!!!

[labsnlurchers 39]

what are the pups going to be used for daytime work or lamping? labs n lurchers.

this was actually a serious question,you can pm the answer if you like.

 

hi, sorry fodr.

well these pups are going to be prodominantly day dogs as thats what the people who have bought them mostly do however i see no reason why they cant be worked on a lamp. the bitch ive kept will be doing some lamp work running as a pair with one of the bull crosses to start, but as i say prodominantly day work.

atb l n l x

[Paid 935]

Like my Dalmation cross or not, she's fantastic and i love her!!!

 

 

Thats all that really counts

Certainly looks a handy bitch.

 

Too many are blinded by breed, I myself am, I can't stand bull breeds, but nothing against others owning them.

[sandymere 8,263]

If your lucky the lab will bring a very thick skin, (always good), tremendous determination and some bidability. At least that would describe a dog that we worked in the 70's. Back along in the 70's saw it get an engineering brick full force on the head, the brick was aimed at a squirrel, didn't blink just carried on to pick up the critter. Would have stopped most dogs but it didn't make a whimper.

[Hannah4181 260]

Like my Dalmation cross or not, she's fantastic and i love her!!!

 

 

Thats all that really counts

Certainly looks a handy bitch.

 

Too many are blinded by breed, I myself am, I can't stand bull breeds, but nothing against others owning them.

 

 

Thanks Paid.

[Guest WILF]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

[adskibullus 0]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

i dont want to start an argument either but i agree with wilf. over breeding or irresponsible breeding is a major problem in the uk. surley if you want a good working dog it would make more sense to use two proven parents with years of experience of working behind them. if you get it wrong then the dogs will end up shit and instead of working they join the endless list of rescue dogs in kennels around the country. whats the point?

[adskibullus 0]

My Lab would take fox if the opportunity presented its self, personally I think they would make good find and kill dogs, not many bullX's have the nose or drive to track quarry like labs do.

 

As for Dalmations they were originally boarhounds from India, so maybe they wouldn't as bad as some would believe. :secret:

 

lab x dogs are used for pig hunting aswell, they are hard as feck when it comes to confrontation of quarry. the following is a quote from an experienced pig hunter

"pitt lab mix is the best breed i've ever seen work a boar. they are smart agile and can run for years. i've seen them with there guts hagging out and still had the hog caught!"

they use the bull terrier for agression, gundog for nose and and size and greyhound for speed and stamina.

 

 

im not sure about that. its pointer that they use not lab and the best hog workers are the bull arabs which are many crosses but not labs. they use greyhound along with mastiff, great dane, wolf hounds, stags hounds, pits, pointers, blood hounds, bullterriers even dobermans but not labs. maybe the labs of many decades ago might be what you say they are but not know adays. and asfar as i can see labs were used for pulling fishing nets from the sea but not killing game. dogs of yester year are very very different than they are today in physical apperence and ability and temperment. i made the mistake of getting a bullmastiff cross greyhound. i worked out in australia and saw these crosses hunting hog and throught that they were amazing and that they might have there uses here in the uk. but i was very very wrong. they were gud on large game in oz but theres just no quarry in the uk that is that big and slow enough to justify using such a large and powerfull dog on. i bread my own and have learnt the hard way that you need dogs from lines of proven workers and it has taken the aussies decades of careful breeding and selection to get such a good working dog as the bull arab. i dont want to piss on your fire but i think that buy breeding these dogs you are making a mistake dont make the same mistake as me. i hope that you prove me wrong and good luck but i think that your flogging a dead horse with this one

[Guest Night Owl]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

the way i heard it was "labsnlurchers" got his bull x bitch served by a bull x dog this dog is owned by a guy who's name starts with D ..... anyway ... labsnlurchers took his bitch home after she had been served by the bull x and left her unattended in his yard and this is when one of his labs got to her and served her ...... so in all honesty who knows what x breed these pups are .... and just for clarification yes i am from aberystwyth ..... to clarify the dog you used the owners name is D J and he lives not far from elfed .

Edited October 30, 2008 by Night Owl

[labsnlurchers 39]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

if it was an accidental mating would i not have had the bitch down the vets asap? i know who youve been talking too, someone who is very keen on causing trouble for me and my family through jealousy, someone who is sending pm's to people who just so happen to be reporting back to me! someone who im choosing to ignore rather than retaliate BUT if this continues i will have no choice but to voice my concerns publicly....you have been warned.......

when i bred these dogs, i knew full well they would not be to everyones liking, if they are as good as the dam and the sire then the plan is to line the dams brother to my bitch.

i have used two proven dogs in this mating, the sire is 9 and the dam is 4 1/2 and they have been worked hard and never jibbed both worked day and night, i have had the lab from pup and if he had not have done what i expect of my dogs then he would not have still been around.

i am 26 and my partner is 34, my parents provide the breeding background and his the lurcher work background, we have waited until we have what we consider to be an excellent pack of dogs before considering any breeding with them and have been breeding in our own right the past 2 years, with 100% pups going to working homes and all are kept in touch with and all are performing well. these pups will not be worked until middle to end of next year so i have a while to wait but i am confident that they will do what they have been sold to do.

This was something that we have been planning for a while, it was by no means a rushed decision and i personally looked into the three breeds specifics and am happy with the first stage, as you can see in the photos, these pups could have easily been passed off as bull greyhound to some unsuspecting people but i am not an untruthful person and tell things as they are. all pups sold from my kennels are fully available to be returned and money back at any time (aslong as they arent like 6/7 and smashed to bits from work), i always say that i would rather have them back myself and be in control of where their new homes are. I take my responsiblty as a breeder and owner of dogs very seriously.

I am glad that you have nothing against me personally because i was beggining to think that you did, if you did ever meet me you would know that i am an honest person.

[labsnlurchers 39]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

the way i heard it was "labsnlurchers" got his bull x bitch served by a bull x dog this dog is owned by a guy who's name starts with D ..... anyway ... labsnlurchers took his bitch home after she had been served by the bull x and left her unattended in his yard and this is when one of his labs got to her and served her ...... so in all honesty who knows what x breed these pups are .... and just for clarification yes i am from aberystwyth ..... to clarify the dog you used the owners name is D J and he lives not far from elfed .

 

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE....YOU HAVE TWO PROFILES ON HERE......YOU ARE EXTREMELY JEALOUS AND CHILDISH AND NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULL AS I HAVE DAMAGING PMS THAT YOUR ALTER EGO HAS SENT ME REGARDING A MATING, IF I POST YOU WILL NEVER EVER SELL ANOTHER PUP, EVER. LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE PLEASE I WILL NOT ASK AGAIN.

[Guest Night Owl]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

the way i heard it was "labsnlurchers" got his bull x bitch served by a bull x dog this dog is owned by a guy who's name starts with D ..... anyway ... labsnlurchers took his bitch home after she had been served by the bull x and left her unattended in his yard and this is when one of his labs got to her and served her ...... so in all honesty who knows what x breed these pups are .... and just for clarification yes i am from aberystwyth ..... to clarify the dog you used the owners name is D J and he lives not far from elfed .

 

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE....YOU HAVE TWO PROFILES ON HERE......YOU ARE EXTREMELY JEALOUS AND CHILDISH AND NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULL AS I HAVE DAMAGING PMS THAT YOUR ALTER EGO HAS SENT ME REGARDING A MATING, IF I POST YOU WILL NEVER EVER SELL ANOTHER PUP, EVER. LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE PLEASE I WILL NOT ASK AGAIN.

post what ever like i have nothing to hide because i have one profile and no plans to breed or sell pups just telling it as it was told to me ...... is my above statement true or false

[labsnlurchers 39]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

i dont want to start an argument either but i agree with wilf. over breeding or irresponsible breeding is a major problem in the uk. surley if you want a good working dog it would make more sense to use two proven parents with years of experience of working behind them. if you get it wrong then the dogs will end up shit and instead of working they join the endless list of rescue dogs in kennels around the country. whats the point?

 

I have used proven workers mate, they are both my dogs and i work them both. i take my responsibilty of breeding and owning dogs seriously and keep in touch with all my litters, ALL of them. i know if there was ever a problem then the owners would get back to me, i have a good relationship with all the owners of my pups and when they grow up many of them come back to me for the odd weekend, with their owners so i can see 1st hand how their doing.

[labsnlurchers 39]

OK, Now I am not looking for an argument but when you had these in the for sale section you said that it was some kind of breeding plan..........I dont think that is true.

 

Now I have nothing against you personally as I have never met you, but I think that on a very public site like this with lots of young and inexperienced members, that putting ideas into ther heads that such a mating is a planned and wise thing to do is very wrong.

 

Now, please be truthfull.........was this mating and accident in a lad in ABERS yard..........if it was, say it was........no harm done.

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

the way i heard it was "labsnlurchers" got his bull x bitch served by a bull x dog this dog is owned by a guy who's name starts with D ..... anyway ... labsnlurchers took his bitch home after she had been served by the bull x and left her unattended in his yard and this is when one of his labs got to her and served her ...... so in all honesty who knows what x breed these pups are .... and just for clarification yes i am from aberystwyth ..... to clarify the dog you used the owners name is D J and he lives not far from elfed .

 

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE....YOU HAVE TWO PROFILES ON HERE......YOU ARE EXTREMELY JEALOUS AND CHILDISH AND NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULL AS I HAVE DAMAGING PMS THAT YOUR ALTER EGO HAS SENT ME REGARDING A MATING, IF I POST YOU WILL NEVER EVER SELL ANOTHER PUP, EVER. LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE PLEASE I WILL NOT ASK AGAIN.

post what ever like i have nothing to hide because i have one profile and no plans to breed or sell pups just telling it as it was told to me ...... is my above statement true or false

 

LIAR, NO THE ABOVE IS NOT TRUE. YOU THINK IM STUPID OR SOMETHING? YOU HAVE 2 PROFILES, I HAVE ASKED YOU TO LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE SO PLEASE DO SO, YOU CANT REALLY BE THAT SADISTIC THAT YOU ACTUALLY ENJOY HOUNDING A WOMAN THE WAY YOU ARE?????

I AM NOT GETTING IN TO THIS, ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT RUIN THIS SITE.