Grim Reaper 1 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Deker mate, i can fully appreciate what you are trying your damndest to say pal - "don't panick mr Mainwaring!! " lol Yes, you are correct, i am trying to find out the nest colour filter (if any) to use when going 'on the rampage' at night, so to speak. Thanks again for your trouble though! All the best, Grim. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Lads, Thanks for the replies in so far - much appreciated. Of course, i realise do that all animals can perceive most (if not all) colours of light, but i also do realise that there are certain colours that each species would seem to either have a difficulty seeing so well, or they do recognise the colour (but not necessarily in the same manner as other colours) hence the reasoning for my query. My OP has been suitably edited to reflect this point. Thanks again for the anwers so far - please keep them coming if you have experience in this particular field (no matter how little you think it may matter - it all has bearing on the subject in hand). Regards, Grim. Grim...I understand your question (I think) and I suspect what you are really after is the best colour filter to use..but like I say above ..... They can see light intensity but not orange colour...so they can't see orange, but they can see your light so orange filters are a waste of time!!! You might just as well use an unfiltered lamp with a dimmer control on it as I do if that is the case I hope someone can explain this if I have it wrong as it seems that any filter is a waste of time......light intensity is the apparent answer so dimmer units are required not filters....HELP someone!!!!! what your saying is coz they cant see orange they see straight through it and just see the light from the bulb? can you just get orange bulbs/lights or are coloured bulbs just bulbs with a fixed coated filter? (just to add more confusion) Steady on...I'm just responding to a post earlier that says they can't see orange, but they can see light intensity...I'm not sure I understand it either, waiting for someone to explain the situation because to my simple mind if this is the case filters are a waste of time all round wether they can see them or not..as they can see the difference in light intensity anyway so just use a dimmer on the lamp. Which is what I have found on the whole historically!! I might be an old dog but I'm not too old to learn..if I have this wrong or someone can clear this up then it will help lots of people Quote Link to post
Guest jordy p Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 red for me different people have differen opinions but i like red cheers jp Quote Link to post
bowers1986 3 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I use a blue filter myself,,,seems to work a treat,,seems to let alot more light through than the red. Quote Link to post
Skol 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I have found the 'Black' filter to work best Dawn and dusk, until you cant see. Skol Quote Link to post
Grim Reaper 1 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I have found the 'Black' filter to work best Dawn and dusk, until you cant see. Skol " Oh, shut up, you tart!! " Regards, Grim. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Dimmer switch for me! Highly doubt that any filter works "Invisibly" IMHO. Quote Link to post
gazguildford 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ah i see the thinking behind the dimmer switch but i was going in an entire different direction my fault. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 mammals other than primates are what is known as Dichromats,humans are Trichromats ,they see the light but can't percieve the colour as reds or greens or maybe blues..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_vision Quote Link to post
3jackwhite3 2 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 my mate has a rechargable maglite and we use that lamping and we found that the rabbits would run to cover pretty much as soon as you put the light on, but my other mate got a lightforce striker with a dimmer on it and we put it on just so we can see the rabbit or its eyes then turn it up a bit when we take a shot and that seems to be the best method and we get a few more that way, and for lamping rats around farm buildings we use the maglite with a red filter and the rats dont run if they are about 15-20 yards but anything closer and they get twitchy and start to run off. Quote Link to post
hughesey1552 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 yeah normal filament lights would just be coated with a filter lol. but neon lights (i think) are different because the light comes from a reaction with the inert gasses used. high school physics lesson overwith now. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) I think, If a rabbit sees a shiny lamp waving about, it wont matter what colour it is, its still an alien object that the rabbit may link with being chased or disturbed. Just because it's dark doesnt mean that fieldcraft is not necessary. Edited October 28, 2008 by Fidgety Quote Link to post
Coney 3 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Red I'm afraid....tried others in the past but red does the trick.......just ask "Goldenarms" & "The Duck" they will vouch for red filters. Quote Link to post
Grim Reaper 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Red I'm afraid....tried others in the past but red does the trick.......just ask "Goldenarms" & "The Duck" they will vouch for red filters. Cheers for the input Coney - appreciated bud. Regards, Grim. Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) the colour filter does matter as many a lamper has found, but.. if the lights too bright they will feel their eyeballs caving in. have you tried looking into your lamp at night.. try it after about an hour of dark then booooom yu head flies back and yu cant see for 10 mins (first time), after a few little flash's off yu freinds your eyes adapt a bit better to just a few minutes dazzled in the dark. the basic idia of lamping a rabbit is to blind it on the spot, it's an art in it's own as you all will probably know, but, after a few attempts with white light they run away.... pop on a red or an orange they hang around a bit longer, untill you waxk a few off... those of you that have been through the rigamorole know they will leg it even if you use a sky blue pink end filter after a few cracking head shots dimmer quite often doesnt let them locate the sorse of the noise and camotion....a ten million candle power sort of anounces the it a mile away literaly...like close encouters of the 15'th kind... Edited October 30, 2008 by ghillies Quote Link to post
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