Grim Reaper 1 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) Hi all, I am doing a spot of research into the visual accuity of rabbits, with my particular interest being in the perception of light colour - ie what type of light can they NOT see so well too well / at all? ( or at least, what colour seems not to spook or bother them) I have done numerous (and so far) unfruitful gooles on it, almost as many Lycos searches and have come up with nothing much of any use to me so far. This is why I am posting my query in here, in the hope i can get some serious answers from you guys/gals - those who lamp and shoot at night for rabbits, you see? In other words, those well 'in the know', like? Thanks for any help that proves of use to me in this matter. Regards, Grim. Edited October 26, 2008 by Grim Reaper Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 all i know is red, works on foxes aswell Quote Link to post
paddy.t 5 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Went out lastnight with lamp and gun only used a low voltage more or a torch realy. no filter just normal rabbits happily sat there, it didnt seem to bother them Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I suspect they can see all the light filter colours...just a matter of which ...and in which situation they can live with best! If there was one they could not see we would have found it by now and everyone would use it!! Never had any particular success with filters on any animals so I simply use a lamp with a dimmer these days and adjust the light as appropriate...works as well or better than any filter in my experience!! Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 the first time they see the lamp should be the last dont educate them! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 the first time they see the lamp should be the last dont educate them! Ok if you have ONE rabbit only to shoot at but potentially rather difficult at air rifle ranges where you could have a field full of them! Quote Link to post
wife 1 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 red filter is by far the best, but they can see it,lol, trust me, maybe not so easy as a white, but for one thing for sure, they can see it, we have been out lamping on some well windy nites, with the wind direct in our face, but places where rabbits have been lamp shy, and put the red on, on poewrfull lamps and not to powerfull lamps, and the moment it comes on, off they go, last nite went to a new farm, sure thing, put the lamp on, red filter as well, we carry a blitz, and i run a dog, and my mate takes a rifle, so we first sweep each field with the lamp which is on his mounts, think its a tracer, we spot first with the red which is also a variable, then if they stay put we walk towards them with only the red on, if when we get close and they run, i am ready with the dog and switch the blitz on, but no doubt, rabbits can see red, also rats, just not so well Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 the first time they see the lamp should be the last dont educate them! Ok if you have ONE rabbit only to shoot at but potentially rather difficult at air rifle ranges where you could have a field full of them! fair point Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) rabbits see in the green spectrum and cant see orange rats see in the blue spectrum, more specificaly UV, they see best at dusk dawn and sorta blind as bats in comparison inbetween those times, they cant see red i think all animals can interpret light intencity though.. i've witnessed a rat stop running from a laser, to turn round and and try and touch the red beam..not the dot.. the actual beam... also, think about it.. when you look directly at a lamp in the dark, does it fel like your eyes bin hit by a brick? Edited October 26, 2008 by ghillies Quote Link to post
rabbit tourmentor 29 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 i find if thier near a roadthen the lamp doesnt bother them to much Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) rabbits see in the green spectrum and cant see orange rats see in the blue spectrum, more specificaly UV, they see best at dusk dawn and sorta blind as bats in comparison inbetween those times, they cant see red i think all animals can interpret light intencity though.. i've witnessed a rat stop running from a laser, to turn round and and try and touch the red beam..not the dot.. the actual beam... also, think about it.. when you look directly at a lamp in the dark, does it fel like your eyes bin hit by a brick? I'm a little lost here...help me understand this using small words an old boy like me can make sense of!!! and cant see orange....ok I am simple...what are you saying here??? They can see light intensity but not orange colour...so they can't see orange, but they can see your light so orange filters are a waste of time!!! You might just as well use an unfiltered lamp with a dimmer control on it as I do if that is the case Edited October 26, 2008 by Deker Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 i find if thier near a roadthen the lamp doesnt bother them to much I think you will find that is down to familiarity rather than what they can or can't see, near roads they come into contact with Clear, Red, Orange, Blue etc lights regularly! Quote Link to post
Grim Reaper 1 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) Lads, Thanks for the replies in so far - much appreciated. Of course, i realise do that all animals can perceive most (if not all) colours of light, but i also do realise that there are certain colours that each species would seem to either have a difficulty seeing so well, or they do recognise the colour (but not necessarily in the same manner as other colours) hence the reasoning for my query. My OP has been suitably edited to reflect this point. Thanks again for the anwers so far - please keep them coming if you have experience in this particular field (no matter how little you think it may matter - it all has bearing on the subject in hand). Regards, Grim. Edited October 26, 2008 by Grim Reaper Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Lads, Thanks for the replies in so far - much appreciated. Of course, i realise do that all animals can perceive most (if not all) colours of light, but i also do realise that there are certain colours that each species would seem to either have a difficulty seeing so well, or they do recognise the colour (but not necessarily in the same manner as other colours) hence the reasoning for my query. My OP has been suitably edited to reflect this point. Thanks again for the anwers so far - please keep them coming if you have experience in this particular field (no matter how little you think it may matter - it all has bearing on the subject in hand). Regards, Grim. Grim...I understand your question (I think) and I suspect what you are really after is the best colour filter to use..but like I say above ..... They can see light intensity but not orange colour...so they can't see orange, but they can see your light so orange filters are a waste of time!!! You might just as well use an unfiltered lamp with a dimmer control on it as I do if that is the case I hope someone can explain this if I have it wrong as it seems that any filter is a waste of time......light intensity is the apparent answer so dimmer units are required not filters....HELP someone!!!!! Quote Link to post
gazguildford 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Lads, Thanks for the replies in so far - much appreciated. Of course, i realise do that all animals can perceive most (if not all) colours of light, but i also do realise that there are certain colours that each species would seem to either have a difficulty seeing so well, or they do recognise the colour (but not necessarily in the same manner as other colours) hence the reasoning for my query. My OP has been suitably edited to reflect this point. Thanks again for the anwers so far - please keep them coming if you have experience in this particular field (no matter how little you think it may matter - it all has bearing on the subject in hand). Regards, Grim. Grim...I understand your question (I think) and I suspect what you are really after is the best colour filter to use..but like I say above ..... They can see light intensity but not orange colour...so they can't see orange, but they can see your light so orange filters are a waste of time!!! You might just as well use an unfiltered lamp with a dimmer control on it as I do if that is the case I hope someone can explain this if I have it wrong as it seems that any filter is a waste of time......light intensity is the apparent answer so dimmer units are required not filters....HELP someone!!!!! what your saying is coz they cant see orange they see straight through it and just see the light from the bulb? can you just get orange bulbs/lights or are coloured bulbs just bulbs with a fixed coated filter? (just to add more confusion) Quote Link to post
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