Line Breeding Explained

[skycat 6,173]

My poor old brain is trying to absorb all this and struggling with the jargon Seriously though, it is a fascinating subject. My line contain dogs that are both long coated and medium coated: the way it works with these is that the medium coated sire of two fulll brothers will throw both long, medium and smooth to a smooth bitch who carries the long coat gene without showing it and one or two smooth pups to even a rough coated bitch depending upon her breeding. The really long coat sire will only ever throw long and medium coats no matter what bitch he goes over including smooth all the way such as a Greyhound.

This is just what I have found over the years with this line, and in lurchers I doubt any two lines are the same. I haven't discovered this in a scientific way, just by doing it! Fascinating stuff all the same, and as I only ever breed for performance the coat is neither here nor there, though I do confess to having a sneaking liking for rough coated lurchers

Edited October 22, 2008 by skycat

[gnasher16 30,216]

My poor old brain is trying to absorb all this and struggling with the jargon Seriously though, it is a fascinating subject. My line contain dogs that are both long coated and medium coated: the way it works with these is that the medium coated sire of two fulll brothers will throw both long, medium and smooth to a smooth bitch who carries the long coat gene without showing it and one or two smooth pups to even a rough coated bitch depending upon her breeding. The really long coat sire will only ever throw long and medium coats no matter what bitch he goes over including smooth all the way such as a Greyhound.

This is just what I have found over the years with this line, and in lurchers I doubt any two lines are the same. I haven't discovered this in a scientific way, just by doing it! Fascinating stuff all the same, and as I only ever breed for performance the coat is neither here nor there, though I do confess to having a sneaking liking for rough coated lurchers

 

 

I wouldnt worry mate.....all the scientific jargon sounds impressive if you havent read it all before,but in reality it has little bearing on the dogs you breed in front of you.....what folk seem to forget is that nobody could ever be totally sure on any breeding they do....we are talking about genes in the millions not stacking ten in a row and hoping they hit or miss......the best a man breeding for performance can do is get a basic understanding of genetics,research his peds and the make up of his dogs and then breed best to best within that strain or outcross as he sees fit....anything else is just wasted brain space........ive bred some of the best dogs in the world on paper but unfortunately theres a whole big difference between breeding dogs in a yard and breeding dogs in a laboratory...scientific jargon used to impress me years ago,but no more....if it were a case of read a book or two and chat to someone with letters after thier name and then you can go and breed great dogs...well.....

[labsnlurchers 39]

My poor old brain is trying to absorb all this and struggling with the jargon Seriously though, it is a fascinating subject. My line contain dogs that are both long coated and medium coated: the way it works with these is that the medium coated sire of two fulll brothers will throw both long, medium and smooth to a smooth bitch who carries the long coat gene without showing it and one or two smooth pups to even a rough coated bitch depending upon her breeding. The really long coat sire will only ever throw long and medium coats no matter what bitch he goes over including smooth all the way such as a Greyhound.

This is just what I have found over the years with this line, and in lurchers I doubt any two lines are the same. I haven't discovered this in a scientific way, just by doing it! Fascinating stuff all the same, and as I only ever breed for performance the coat is neither here nor there, though I do confess to having a sneaking liking for rough coated lurchers

 

 

I wouldnt worry mate.....all the scientific jargon sounds impressive if you havent read it all before,but in reality it has little bearing on the dogs you breed in front of you.....what folk seem to forget is that nobody could ever be totally sure on any breeding they do....we are talking about genes in the millions not stacking ten in a row and hoping they hit or miss......the best a man breeding for performance can do is get a basic understanding of genetics,research his peds and the make up of his dogs and then breed best to best within that strain or outcross as he sees fit....anything else is just wasted brain space........ive bred some of the best dogs in the world on paper but unfortunately theres a whole big difference between breeding dogs in a yard and breeding dogs in a laboratory...scientific jargon used to impress me years ago,but no more....if it were a case of read a book or two and chat to someone with letters after thier name and then you can go and breed great dogs...well.....

 

on the whole i agree mate but the scientific jargon? im assuming you mean alleles genes dominant recessive etc etc, these have EVERY bearing on the dogs you breed infront of you, its what makes them good or bad, black or brown, aggresive or placid, tall or short etc etc and there is NO difference in the results of a lab breeding or a yard breeding, a breeding will produce the same results no matter where it occurs, you could breed them on the moon and they'd be no better no worse (providing they had oxygen lol!)

[gnasher16 30,216]

Think your missing the point mate.....when you have 2 dogs in front of you whos parents and ancestry you know and have researched the good and bad....and you have decent basic knowledge of genetics and breeding techniques....you stand a lot more chance of producing good animals than a man who has learned about breeding from books.

Put it this way id rather a builder build me a house than an architect !....hopefully you get where im coming from.

[richard25 0]

Its a fascinating subject & i think some get lost with all the jargon/bs words & it starts to get confusing.

 

Line breeding though although we speak in scientific terms really for the breeder all this means is homing in on the specific traits your looking for & creating that "special line" that we all want

 

When you talk of breeding mother to son etc then were getting into inbreeding & homing in & making those drives more pronounced to think of a better word but at the same time any bad genes may get pronounced too so that should diffiniatly be left to the experts & culling maybe needed if this is done.

 

In bandog programs the way in which you use a pit to a neo will greatly affect the outward traits & looks in the dog ie you breed a neo male to a pit female & then you breed that same neos sister to the pits brother you will get a totally different look and dog.

 

Dam i hate trying to write things down & i cant really get what i am trying to say across ( but i hope someone gets what i am saying ) dont you hate dyslexics lol I know what i want to say but just cant explain it THATS GENETICS FOR YA