scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 iv only taken one deer ,dog was off yhe leash and a fallow happen to pop up he had done everything expected of him til then but because its illegal here i took him off and let the deer run free but i was happy with his performance ,the deer ran away away no a bother on him Quote Link to post
lancer 13 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way? no not you sp this one asked to be told Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way? Quote Link to post
ssssh1forthepot 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way? no not you sp this one asked to be told True I did Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red Quote Link to post
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 i know its illegal banned and what ever...but just out of curriosity do you lot think that lurchers would be able to run down and kill a red stag...be it single handed or doubled up thanks Yeah I have known of dogs that have pulled the reds single handed and doubled up my mates have had sum good sessions on them and if i tell you the breed of the lurcher you would never believe me! go on then shock me Small 20inch at the most terrier cross whippet bitch called fern shes been dead over 8 years but what a dog! and then you woke up What you on about mungral boy what im trying to say is your talking brown, thats my opinion, i hope your right, but i just cant believe it sorry mongrel girl Erm av you lost the point of the post question of the post " lurcherboy" being boy his reply was yeah he known a dog who now is in doggy heaven and has had the red an probly a fallow I dont know the guy but how can you call him by what he says you not got dogs that surprise you "shame" on you bet your dog carnt catch a 1 legged tortoise never mind respect to dollar for posting but I dont favour your tounge ok "lurcher boy " being the word "BOY!!! dont worry about the word BOY, iv seen alot of BOYS on this site with more sence than MEN on here, and i wont say nothing about what my dogs can or cant do, ill just leave you to think how lurcherwise theyre all over 4 year old and still here, if they couldnt catch a 1 legged tortoise then they wouldnt be here, now i aint going to call you a name back or say anything about your dogs because im not a pr*ck like that and iv never seen your dogs work anyways, so just leave it there Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it every night of the week if i wanted but i reckon its too easy i prefer coursing foxing foxes day and night i think it takes a better dog to do foxes on their own Quote Link to post
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it every night of the week if i wanted but i reckon its too easy i prefer coursing foxing foxes day and night i think it takes a better dog to do foxes on their own i have noticed you like ytour foxes scent, seem to have good days almost every time out, wish i could do the same where i live theres no foxes near me just nock the odd 1 or 2 up out of cover every few months with the terriers but the mountain by me the foxes will just leave the dogs and 9 times out of 10 they will lose them Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it every night of the week if i wanted but i reckon its too easy i prefer coursing foxing foxes day and night i think it takes a better dog to do foxes on their own i have noticed you like ytour foxes scent, seem to have good days almost every time out, wish i could do the same where i live theres no foxes near me just nock the odd 1 or 2 up out of cover every few months with the terriers but the mountain by me the foxes will just leave the dogs and 9 times out of 10 they will lose them i watch cubs all summer dont hunt then out of season i used to but then i got sense,i think they are the the ultimate vermin to try outsmart,where i hunt they are lamped all the time so you have to be very clever to get em.Thats why i love hunting them .We rarely get ahandy one except for last monday and he gave our bitch a roasting,i dont hunt hare i lamp a few bunnies to warm the dogs up i just love hunting charlie i reckon they are the cleverest vermin to hunt Quote Link to post
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it every night of the week if i wanted but i reckon its too easy i prefer coursing foxing foxes day and night i think it takes a better dog to do foxes on their own i have noticed you like ytour foxes scent, seem to have good days almost every time out, wish i could do the same where i live theres no foxes near me just nock the odd 1 or 2 up out of cover every few months with the terriers but the mountain by me the foxes will just leave the dogs and 9 times out of 10 they will lose them i watch cubs all summer dont hunt then out of season i used to but then i got sense,i think they are the the ultimate vermin to try outsmart,where i hunt they are lamped all the time so you have to be very clever to get em.Thats why i love hunting them .We rarely get ahandy one except for last monday and he gave our bitch a roasting,i dont hunt hare i lamp a few bunnies to warm the dogs up i just love hunting charlie i reckon they are the cleverest vermin to hunt yes very good to hunt especially doing good patches of cover with terriers, got a few farms but we do ideally need a few more as we dont have enough ground to hunt them every week, 2 of the farmers we got permission with both have big names in the area we mostly hunt so thats a bonus thats the only reason why we got the other farms is through them, might be out sunday morn if we do we will be nocking a few more farms at the end of the day hopefully have more permission then i know a couple of farms with good patches of cover and valleys to nock so ill be giving it a go, happy hunting Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Im new to the site, so tell me to shut up if you think im chatting sh*t but I know someone who has a dog and he has told me of times pre ban when it would take red on its own, I got told it would take there back leg and break it then clamp on to its head inbetween the antlers and hold it, then the lad used to go finish the job with a knife. Its not a massive dog either about 26 tts, Its Sire was a grey x bull x saluki and the dam a grey x deerhound x bull. I dont know the % but im sure someone will do the maths. Isnt it just about how they do it and if they are shown the right way?a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it every night of the week if i wanted but i reckon its too easy i prefer coursing foxing foxes day and night i think it takes a better dog to do foxes on their own i have noticed you like ytour foxes scent, seem to have good days almost every time out, wish i could do the same where i live theres no foxes near me just nock the odd 1 or 2 up out of cover every few months with the terriers but the mountain by me the foxes will just leave the dogs and 9 times out of 10 they will lose them i watch cubs all summer dont hunt then out of season i used to but then i got sense,i think they are the the ultimate vermin to try outsmart,where i hunt they are lamped all the time so you have to be very clever to get em.Thats why i love hunting them .We rarely get ahandy one except for last monday and he gave our bitch a roasting,i dont hunt hare i lamp a few bunnies to warm the dogs up i just love hunting charlie i reckon they are the cleverest vermin to hunt yes very good to hunt especially doing good patches of cover with terriers, got a few farms but we do ideally need a few more as we dont have enough ground to hunt them every week, 2 of the farmers we got permission with both have big names in the area we mostly hunt so thats a bonus thats the only reason why we got the other farms is through them, might be out sunday morn if we do we will be nocking a few more farms at the end of the day hopefully have more permission then i know a couple of farms with good patches of cover and valleys to nock so ill be giving it a go, happy hunting once you get in with a few farmers you are on the ball word of mouth is great,once you kill a few foxes for a farmer he tells other farmers and they will be more than happy to let yee in, Quote Link to post
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 i know its illegal banned and what ever...but just out of curriosity do you lot think that lurchers would be able to run down and kill a red stag...be it single handed or doubled up thanks Yeah I have known of dogs that have pulled the reds single handed and doubled up my mates have had sum good sessions on them and if i tell you the breed of the lurcher you would never believe me! go on then shock me Small 20inch at the most terrier cross whippet bitch called fern shes been dead over 8 years but what a dog! and then you woke up What you on about mungral boy what im trying to say is your talking brown, thats my opinion, i hope your right, but i just cant believe it sorry mongrel girl Thats the trouble with lads like you mate your so nieve you dont look past your nose a dog aint gota be the size of a house to take on sumthin like a red. I know a smaller dog mite not do it as regular but the question that was asked HAS [NO TEXT TALK] KNOWN OF ANY DOGS THAT HAS PULLED A RED.Question answerd oh yeah i aint a girl mate im far from it and im always down whales anytime you wana meet up sound! the meeting up part is no problem, spell wales rights you want to, that dog might of done it, but imo i think your talking brown Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Well....some strong opinions expressed. Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) i know its illegal banned and what ever...but just out of curriosity do you lot think that lurchers would be able to run down and kill a red stag...be it single handed or doubled up thanks I learnt a bit about taking deer when living up invernesshire, I used to shoot 30-40 stags and 60- hinds, which was a realy good job, and great sport, however after meeting a few lads from the estate next door the sport of stalking with a rifle was cast in shaddow by the sport which I was to soon take part in. These lads that took them regular, always used two big lurchers, of the deerhound/greyhound type. I went out with them half a dozen times, and saw three stags get taken. one of their lurchers was a deer/grey X saluki/deer/grey, this bitch was usually the catch dog, being the faster one, usually grabbing the rear or flank, then the big deerhound X would come in and take a neck hold to topple the stag off its feet. We would always stalk in as close as possible, before slipping the dogs(which were the most steady and calm pair of lurchers ive ever seen). We got one big stag (19stone, larder wieght)which the pair coped with easily. The bitch got a hold of a rear leg, and as the stag turned around the big lurcher grabbed the back of its neck and toppled it straight away! Another was taken from its seat pretty much, in some peat hags, the bitch had a neck hold with the dog, and the stag was approached and shot. It didnt always go so smoothly though, really strong beasts can take a long time to stop, and can drag the pair for a good distance. We searched a series of deep ghills for an hour once to find the pair with an almost dead stag. A single experienced dog can take a hind or small stag, but if a large stag was caught by a single dog, the dog would struggle to floor the beast, and would get dragged about for ages, until the knackered lurcher gave up. As far as I know, they never lost a single dog to a stags horns, but had many wounded from contact with the sharp spikes. They did tell me of others dogs that had died at their stag. A good lurcher of theirs died after a fall over some rocks though, and another lamed permanently after braking its leg. No fences up there though, which would have probably made the job much more risky! Edited to add that most deer were approached asap, and shot. Edited October 19, 2008 by dogs-n-natives Quote Link to post
Guest allroundhunter Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 i know its illegal banned and what ever...but just out of curriosity do you lot think that lurchers would be able to run down and kill a red stag...be it single handed or doubled up thanks WHAT A TOPIC LOL WELL DONE MILO Well consider me educated thanks milo for the topic it has been most interesting and very educating. Did that anser your question milo mint. Quote Link to post
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