Collie cross

[heart of wales 19]

Before we go any further I like collies have a great deal of respect for them ,I currently have Two beardie collies and Two border collies this is not a knocking thread,it is a fact finding one,now that is out of the way.

There are plenty of lurcher people on here with collie cross Lurchers,after speaking to several people who work collies,I keep getting told the same thing,that they are not hard enough for Pen work,they will do the work out in the field,but when it comes down to getting up close and pushing sheep or cattle hard they havent got no guts.

When you bought or bred your collie crosses did you actually see the mother or father work ???

Would yours tackle a fox pre ban of course ??

Is he Beardie collie or Border collie cross

[MarcusOvDarlo 0]

Intresting thread... Would be nice to see what comes out.

[Guest world.hunters]

obviously i never seen the parents work to mine as he is a hancock dog but when i go to ireland regularly lol he has been on everything and has done well, he got latched onto by somethink before not going to say what but as soon as he got free he went mental and was straight back in flipping it about.

 

heres a fox retreived

 

W.h

 

[Guest world.hunters]

storm is 1/4 border collie 3/4 greyhound

[heart of wales 19]

Thanks for the reply WH it is intresting because if I were to use any of mine for Lurcher breeding I know what type I would use,Got my own thoughts on what is happening to the breed,but that is another reply.

[scent 509]

my colliex i didnt see any of his parents work or i dont know what % he is but i reckon he is 3/4 hound 1/4 collie

he takes foxes sinle handed

Edited October 13, 2008 by scent

[Guest smashygadge]

mine came out of lurcher to lurcher one beardie and one border x so i saw them work to a good class. but i can see what you mean if you were to take the first x of the collie x .mine is a collie mix and iam over the moon with his guts stamina and obedience

[Guest ooty]

i owned the mother of my oridgoal line and the father was a hugh farm collie with a dad attude towards strangers,a 1 in a mollion clever powerfull animal used on a dairy farm to herd cows.

[tiptopdan 1]

never seen my colly grey parents dont even know how hes bred think hes 1/4 colly 3/4 grey. put any thing infront of him he will take it. any thing

[lancer 13]

a lot of collie cross lurchers will be good fox dogs,but it depends how many foxs you want to catch and how often ,they wont take the stick that other cross will take.

[merle24 61]

I dont think that there will be many folks out there that have seen the collie blood in there lurcher working, after all they are herding cattle dogs bred to round up and box mainly cows and sheep so what would this prove regards hunting ability, not alot. You have got to look at the reasons why the collie was a popular choice for lurcher breeding, 1. They are very trainable. 2. They have good stamina. 3. They are agile and have fair speed. 4. They have good conformation and hardy feet. 5. Coat thickness. etc etc. These are the main reasons for using this cross, However they do posses there faults as does any breed, some can be realy nervy and on edge, some quite aggressive, and some have a tendency to repeat an annoying habit time and time again. Out of the three types of collie, Boarder , Bearded, and Old English, i think that the safest choice to use within lurcher breeding would be the boarder collie, unlike the other two types the boarder is the most widely used as a working dog therefore its stands in good stead to be the hardiest and most versatile. You have more chance getting hold of a good working stock boarder collie than a bearded or old English, especially if it is of welsh working breed.

[Guest dotty]

most of the prey drive is more often from the greyhound.

[heart of wales 19]

I dont think that there will be many folks out there that have seen the collie blood in there lurcher working, after all they are herding cattle dogs bred to round up and box mainly cows and sheep so what would this prove regards hunting ability, not alot. You have got to look at the reasons why the collie was a popular choice for lurcher breeding, 1. They are very trainable. 2. They have good stamina. 3. They are agile and have fair speed. 4. They have good conformation and hardy feet. 5. Coat thickness. etc etc. These are the main reasons for using this cross, However they do posses there faults as does any breed, some can be realy nervy and on edge, some quite aggressive, and some have a tendency to repeat an annoying habit time and time again. Out of the three types of collie, Boarder , Bearded, and Old English, i think that the safest choice to use within lurcher breeding would be the boarder collie, unlike the other two types the boarder is the most widely used as a working dog therefore its stands in good stead to be the hardiest and most versatile. You have more chance getting hold of a good working stock boarder collie than a bearded or old English, especially if it is of welsh working breed.

 

You make some very good points Merle ,me personally I would always want to see the make up of my dog,but I am a fussy b*****d, My thoughts are also if the dog has not got the guts to face a sheep and the stamina to do a good days farm work would be fit enough to use in the hunting field it is just intresting the cross used and if anything was known about the sire or dam,and is its temprement showing through in its pups,some cracking pictures and feedback,confirming that if you get a good one and bring it on well they are as good if not better than any cross.

[Tassa 64]

This is a dog i kept out of the last litter i bred. Both mother and father 100% fox dogs.

[Tassa 64]

A better pic of him