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[gonetoearth 5,144]

HEADGE PIGS

 

Not sure these are classed as "small ground vermin"

ha ha thats what we call hedge hogs not the other fellas ;)at least i think he means that as dont think a fenn would hold the big fella Edited October 23, 2008 by gonetoearth

[Guest blackntan]

HEADGE PIGS

 

Not sure these are classed as "small ground vermin"

ha ha thats what we call hedge hogs not the other fellas ;)at least i think he means that as dont think a fenn would hold the big fella

yeh hedge hogs

[Netter 0]

HEADGE PIGS

 

Not sure these are classed as "small ground vermin"

ha ha thats what we call hedge hogs not the other fellas ;)at least i think he means that as dont think a fenn would hold the big fella

yeh hedge hogs

 

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

[stork 1]

My mates got a picture of 3 stoats in a mk4 fenny i will get a copy of the picture he caught them up in scotland when he was keepering up there

[Guest blackntan]

HEADGE PIGS

 

Not sure these are classed as "small ground vermin"

ha ha thats what we call hedge hogs not the other fellas ;)at least i think he means that as dont think a fenn would hold the big fella

yeh hedge hogs

 

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

I KNOW AND I PUT SIGHNS UP EVERY YEAR ON MY TUNNELS BUT DO THEY TAKE ANY NOTICE

[Netter 0]

HEADGE PIGS

 

Not sure these are classed as "small ground vermin"

ha ha thats what we call hedge hogs not the other fellas ;)at least i think he means that as dont think a fenn would hold the big fella

yeh hedge hogs

 

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

I KNOW AND I PUT SIGHNS UP EVERY YEAR ON MY TUNNELS BUT DO THEY TAKE ANY NOTICE

 

[Guest blackntan]

SERIOUS THOU TWO PICES OF A SMALL BRANCH PLACED ACROSS THE FRONT AN BACK OF THE TUNNEL FORCED INTO THE GROND TO MAKE AN X WILL USEALLY PUT MRS TIGGY OFF AND ALLSO MAKE A STOAT OR WEASEL JUMP A BIT AND GET A CLEANER KILL ,

[zig zag wanderer 0]

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

 

That's what I was getting at.

 

I don't know where you stand with accidental non-target catches. For instance it is illegal to set spring traps in rabbit holes if there are known to be Polecats present. Do they mean present in the county or the wood you are working in? How do you establish whether they are there or not? There are a lot of grey areas in trapping legislation but I would suggest that if your targets were weasels and stoats then your tunnel entrance should be set to restrict hedghogs, polecats and other non-targets.

 

As we all know gamekeepers have traditionally killed any creature that is a threat to his game or eggs. History also tells us that these practices are often carried out irrespective of the animal's protected status. (hope that wasn't too controvertial )

 

An excellent book about the history of pest control and persecution of wildlife from the vermin laws of QE1 is "Silent Fields" by Roger Lovegrove.

[Guest blackntan]

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

 

That's what I was getting at.

 

I don't know where you stand with accidental non-target catches. For instance it is illegal to set spring traps in rabbit holes if there are known to be Polecats present. Do they mean present in the county or the wood you are working in? How do you establish whether they are there or not? There are a lot of grey areas in trapping legislation but I would suggest that if your targets were weasels and stoats then your tunnel entrance should be set to restrict hedghogs, polecats and other non-targets.

 

As we all know gamekeepers have traditionally killed any creature that is a threat to his game or eggs. History also tells us that these practices are often carried out irrespective of the animal's protected status. (hope that wasn't too controvertial )

 

An excellent book about the history of pest control and persecution of wildlife from the vermin laws of QE1 is "Silent Fields" by Roger Lovegrove.

ANY WERE THAT IS KEEPERD WILD LIFE ABOUNDS, CONSERVATION IS A WORD OVER USED BY DO GOODERS THAT SIT IN HIDES AND WATCH , WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE OLD ATTITUDES , THE MODERN GAMEKEEPER IS THE CUSTODION OF HIS BEAT, TO CONTROLL VERMIN IS TO CONSERVE , , MODERATION IN ALL THINGS NOT WIPE OUT , THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE ODD FOOL BUT EDUCATION OF YOUNG KEEPERS IN THE RIGHT WAY TO TRAP AND CONSERVE GAME AND WILD LIFE IS BETTER THAN WRITING A THOUSAND BOOKS AND MAKING ANY LAW, Edited October 23, 2008 by blackntan

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My mates got a picture of 3 stoats in a mk4 fenny i will get a copy of the picture he caught them up in scotland when he was keepering up there

i would like to see that

[stork 1]

My mates got a picture of 3 stoats in a mk4 fenny i will get a copy of the picture he caught them up in scotland when he was keepering up there

i would like to see that

 

 

hope i will get it on sat but not sure its a mother and 2 babies and one has been half eaten amazing catch

[alimac 882]

[]YOU MUST HAVE LOADS OF TIME ON YOU HANDS TO RUN A TRAPPING LINE ALL YEAR ROUND SIR

Loads of keepers have to run traps all year

, MARCH, APRIL,MAY, IF DONE RIGHT STOATS, WEASELS, HEADGE PIGS, , THE ODD RAT AND SQIRRELLS THE REST OF THE YEAR, MOORLAND KEEPERS MAY KEEP THEM RUNNING , WASTE OF TIME FOR A LOWLAND KEEPER AFTER MAY, AS TO BUSY REARING KEEP SNARS GOING THRU THE SUMMER , DEPENDS HOW YOU BEEN TAUGHT THOU I SUPPOSE

 

what you on about, not all low ground keepers rear there birds... and on the rounds doing your poults id dare bet there is 50 or more sites you could set fenns where you could check them with out any extra time being added, but as i have a phes and part shoot and 700 acre of heather id guess im inbetween so iv got no choice... why do you see it as a waste of time as a stoat killed in june would still be having young come the spring, so it aint really a waste of time is it, but your right its how you have been taught id guess, glad i got taught the old school way and not to be a lazy feck, lol

Edited October 24, 2008 by alimac

[alimac 882]

Hedgehogs are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

 

That's what I was getting at.

 

I don't know where you stand with accidental non-target catches. For instance it is illegal to set spring traps in rabbit holes if there are known to be Polecats present. Do they mean present in the county or the wood you are working in? How do you establish whether they are there or not? There are a lot of grey areas in trapping legislation but I would suggest that if your targets were weasels and stoats then your tunnel entrance should be set to restrict hedghogs, polecats and other non-targets.

 

As we all know gamekeepers have traditionally killed any creature that is a threat to his game or eggs. History also tells us that these practices are often carried out irrespective of the animal's protected status. (hope that wasn't too controvertial )

 

An excellent book about the history of pest control and persecution of wildlife from the vermin laws of QE1 is "Silent Fields" by Roger Lovegrove.

ANY WERE THAT IS KEEPERD WILD LIFE ABOUNDS, CONSERVATION IS A WORD OVER USED BY DO GOODERS THAT SIT IN HIDES AND WATCH , WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE OLD ATTITUDES , THE MODERN GAMEKEEPER IS THE CUSTODION OF HIS BEAT, TO CONTROLL VERMIN IS TO CONSERVE , , MODERATION IN ALL THINGS NOT WIPE OUT , THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE ODD FOOL BUT EDUCATION OF YOUNG KEEPERS IN THE RIGHT WAY TO TRAP AND CONSERVE GAME AND WILD LIFE IS BETTER THAN WRITING A THOUSAND BOOKS AND MAKING ANY LAW,

 

you really aint been taught well have you !!! if it was not for keepers past and presant being so hard on vermin then the country side wouldnt have such a diverse aray of wildlife, as you know the stuff we kill dont just kill game birds they will kill anything they can catch....

 

a quick example, i took over the estate where i am now about 6 years ago, it hadnt been keepered for 33 years before my boss bought it, the place was devoid of wild life, only those higher up the food chain had survived, very few if any finchs, tits, song birds, hares, small waders etc etc were present, but now there all over if i could have done anything different it would to have been to get my boss to have a wild life survey done when we took over.. because it would make amazing reading, i can promise that, and its down to two things, in this order,firstly none stop vermin control, and then the supplie of wheat, maize etc through out the winter

[OldTrapCollector 377]

WASTE OF TIME FOR A LOWLAND KEEPER AFTER MAY, AS TO BUSY REARING KEEP SNARS GOING THRU THE SUMMER , DEPENDS HOW YOU BEEN TAUGHT THOU I SUPPOSE

 

I have to disagree on this statement - it takes minimal effort to have traps or wires set round the seasons on your regular beat. I would suggest a lazy keeper if he reckons 'he hasn't got time' - I know what my old Boss would have said to me if I had tried that one.

 

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[murraywatt 0]

thats a lot of pish a stoats gonna be a pain in the backside any time of year, thats like saying dont kill foxes until cubbing time the partridge keeper i work with has been picking up loads of stoats all year round some of them right next to pens if they wernt caught theyd be in beside the birds before you know whats happened,

 

as for hedge pigs (lol) not sure about the protected thng but i know that its illegal to trap them the only legal way to kill them is to shoot them i was told that a few weeks ago at college and been told it from a wildlife liason officer that comes to college aswell

 

and as for the sticks in the front of the tunnel use 3 stones put together to make a small tunnel cant think of a way to explain that any better, but it restricts better than sticks and it means that if you have a bad catch then stuff cant drag the trap out the box