prefered terrier work

[Guest proudy]

An earth dog that will allow it's opponent to push past it or be three ft away....is still an earth dog....bit like the mongrel that can rat and bush....it might well kill the same rat 67 times (whilst 67 escape) and thrash through cover but not actually have the single handed guile to ever touch for owt that is remotely fit and well.....is still a rattingbushing dog. Ask the mongrel to touch for two rats in the same charge and you'll find just like the earth dog champions the above ground merchants will have thier own sub-divisions.

Still a different ballgame mate, failed earthdogs can generally make handy bushing/ratting dogs

faild earth dogs often make useless bushing and ratting dogs .

its true to say that a terrier intended for earth work dosent always have the same oputunities as a terrier intended for bushing/ratting.

most digging owners asume that theyre pup will work to ground and keep them kenneld till the are at the age to start them.

they aint as steetwise as terriers intended for above ground work,most aint been broken to sheep or other stock and let to run lose can be a pain in the arse.

I've always started mine on rats & so do all lads that I know. Confidence builder before they start they start below.

[scent 509]

An earth dog that will allow it's opponent to push past it or be three ft away....is still an earth dog....bit like the mongrel that can rat and bush....it might well kill the same rat 67 times (whilst 67 escape) and thrash through cover but not actually have the single handed guile to ever touch for owt that is remotely fit and well.....is still a rattingbushing dog. Ask the mongrel to touch for two rats in the same charge and you'll find just like the earth dog champions the above ground merchants will have thier own sub-divisions.

Still a different ballgame mate, failed earthdogs can generally make handy bushing/ratting dogs

faild earth dogs often make useless bushing and ratting dogs .

its true to say that a terrier intended for earth work dosent always have the same oputunities as a terrier intended for bushing/ratting.

most digging owners asume that theyre pup will work to ground and keep them kenneld till the are at the age to start them.

they aint as steetwise as terriers intended for above ground work,most aint been broken to sheep or other stock and let to run lose can be a pain in the arse.

i always start mine on rats and break them to stock it gives me peace of mind when stock broken

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

What youve all lost sight of is the fact that a digging dog is the ONLY terrier worth breeding from .ANY terrier will bush ,given the chance but the best go a lot better and stay 'till dug to .Regardless of what your preferences are ,the terrier that i know and want is one that is happiest underground.Got no problem with anyone using a terrier soley for bushing as long as that person dosnt think he /she has a first class example of the breed and try to pass it off as such .True terriermen dont rant and rave about the digging game for nothing ,it is THE test of a terrier .

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited October 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

[Bryan 1,362]

Rats? they're a bit of fun, but i don't think they are needed or have any benefit for a pup unless they are hunting them up.

if they don't have it they don't have it. No amount of rats is going to make any difference. An earth dog is going to need a lot more than a ego pumped up by messing about with rats.

Once they've had their shots i get them out as much as i can. They'll be in fields from 3-4 months on tiny walks being exposed to everything. Hopefully getting their noses to the ground and using their brains. getting over banks and drains ,ignoring cattle,horses etc.

I like to have had them out so much as a pup i know exactly how they should be handle when entering and when it's right for that pup to be entered.

Bryan

[BBB 7]

most any dog will bush/rat . but not most terrier's will go to ground and graft solidly . to me a true earth dog is worth more than a dozen busher's... but each to there own..

[Stabs 3]

What youve all lost sight of is the fact that a digging dog is the ONLY terrier worth breeding from .ANY terrier will bush ,given the chance but the best go a lot better and stay 'till dug to .Regardless of what your preferences are ,the terrier that i know and want is one that is happiest underground.Got no problem with anyone using a terrier soley for bushing as long as that person dosnt think he /she has a first class example of the breed and try to pass it off as such .True terriermen dont rant and rave about the digging game for nothing ,it is THE test of a terrier .

 

[bigdan 11]

scent your post make a lot of sence mate i understand digging is the true test for a terrier but bushing/ratting is still work thats what my dogs have been breed for the right dog for the right job mine will hunt find flush kill not just look at a bush or just run around it weve had the line for generations worker to worker of good bushing dogs i would never say there anything else but my little bitch flick did go to ground if id of wanted her for that maybe shed of done well i dont know i was going to get a digging dog but it aint for me i have 2 terriers mother and daughter the first ones dam is jrt cocker lakie sire pitbull lakie she is good very good then ive got her dughter she's that put to a norfolk terrier she's a beauty obediant only 101/2 inches the mums got a head like a bull strong dog she's had fox above ground she's about 13 inches i expected these to hunt work to a top standard and they do so to me they do the work there breed for we choose the sire and dams very carefully so they dont go to ground purely obove

 

like i said digging is a true test if your into that to me its a terrier that'll help feed me and me family find hunt and kill i do ratting and there good all obove not the best in the world but a lot of work has gone into them and there workers

[TOPPER 1,809]

What youve all lost sight of is the fact that a digging dog is the ONLY terrier worth breeding from .ANY terrier will bush ,given the chance but the best go a lot better and stay 'till dug to .Regardless of what your preferences are ,the terrier that i know and want is one that is happiest underground.Got no problem with anyone using a terrier soley for bushing as long as that person dosnt think he /she has a first class example of the breed and try to pass it off as such .True terriermen dont rant and rave about the digging game for nothing ,it is THE test of a terrier .

 

i think this bit from foxdropper sums it up I am a digging man myself but my terriers will bush and work the thickest cover but first and formost there DIGGING DOGS find and stay until i get there to help them out if its needed,

 

had a good weekend SATURDAY we bolted to red fellows and dug 3 others SUNDAY 3 digs and accounted for 9 , tyke worked a big set well and had 3 up a stop end when we got to him hes turning into a bloody good dog but old age doesnt come alone and iam feeling it today maybe ill have to do more bushing

[weekye 0]

me myself keep the terrier coupled till we locate where the quarry is

had him on the rats since 8 months old nothing else!

but i've got a springer that will push anything out of the heavest cover

and follow then mark and stay till i get there my lurcher also does this

but somtimes you get there to late with her!

Edited October 13, 2008 by weekye

[shinyspade 2]

if the only terrier worth breeding of was an earthdog there would be no other types about and all terriers would be almost identical. diferent dogs exell at different jobs thats why there is such a wide variety. good earthdogs are to be admired as is any dog that exells at any task its asked to do. to compare any mongrel to bushing dogs bred for generations for that task is laughable. there are many differant types of dogs that work to ground with as many different work styles. i know a few terriers that are very handy. but a lot of terriermen wouldnt have gave them kennel space. as i wouldnt kennel most of there dogs. however if i did end up with a dog that was useless for me as it was to hard and of no use i wouldnt slag it off and write it off and its breeder i would place it where it was more appreciated. and stick to what i find is best for me one mans meat is another mans poison. some of the best earth dogs ive seen have given chance been good on top. very few get the upbringing or the chance to shine at other tasks imo

[Guest WILF]

and better than the mincing around the show ring

 

How very dare you!! ..............It takes me hours to boot black my dog, blow dry, comb...........and the sheer pride when you get that ribbon takes a mans breath away

[jonesy 111]

Not slagging no mans sport and i have had plenty sport bushing and ratting,but in my opinion digging is a different kettle of fish wether im digging to one of my dogs or anybody elses any dog that finds stays and gets dug out is to be admired.

[Guest ozzy]

i find it hard to comment on this cause i hunt cover for foxes with my terriers and dig with the same terriers.Personally i feel that digging is the main test of a working terrier .Iv seen heaps of so called working terriers that would not go to ground and iv had a few of these so called terriers.The ones iv had and gotten rid of i wouldn call them working terriers.For anyone that thinks digging terriers are not working terriers i ask you to drop a terrier in an earth and dig 9 feet to that terrier that stays with its game for 3 to 4 hours.When that terrier is lifted from the dig exausted ask tourself is this dog a working terrier :yes:what happens scent if when ur huntung cover terriers push game aground or come too a fresh earth would it not be a disaster more than one trrrier aground i prefer beagles myself for hunting cover

[Simoman 110]

and better than the mincing around the show ring

 

How very dare you!! ..............It takes me hours to boot black my dog, blow dry, comb...........and the sheer pride when you get that ribbon takes a mans breath away

 

You did say blow DRY your dog Wilf? I'm sure you also spend as much time with your own appearence to ensure a "place" in the "ring"........