which would you have

[lone wolf 0]

as most of you know i already have bramble a 14 month old black labrador.she has trained really well and does everything i want her for.im now thinking of getting a second lab probably 6 to 12 months old.but which would be the best as in colour,sex age etc.obviously a male throughs up mating issues which i dont mind,some say the colour matters and would the colour be an issue if i did mate with a black and say chocolate lab.whats your thoughts please.regards LW

[barrym3 11]

as most of you know i already have bramble a 14 month old black labrador.she has trained really well and does everything i want her for.im now thinking of getting a second lab probably 6 to 12 months old.but which would be the best as in colour,sex age etc.obviously a male throughs up mating issues which i dont mind,some say the colour matters and would the colour be an issue if i did mate with a black and say chocolate lab.whats your thoughts please.regards LW

hi mate go for a black or yellow. chocolate labs are braindead hard to train more of a pet you see loads of black labs and yellow labs but no many chocolate workers i have black and yellow labs and a sprocker spaniel

[lewismac1 1]

Yes Chocolate labs are a bit brainless, but i have 2 on my shoot and work aswell as a black lab IMO

 

 

[kingfisher 0]

hi guys in the near future im looking at getting a working dog for beating/picking up and was advised to get a lab even though springers are suposed to be better and was just wandering why you would say chocolate labs are more stupid than black and yellows? isnt it just a fur colour?

[lampinglurcher 36]

hi guys in the near future im looking at getting a working dog for beating/picking up and was advised to get a lab even though springers are suposed to be better and was just wandering why you would say chocolate labs are more stupid than black and yellows? isnt it just a fur colour?

 

i suppose it is just a fur colour, but noone i know will work them or even give them kennel space ~ i think the chocolate colour is a sign of dodgy genetics...someone smarter should be able to tell you. ive personally never seen a goodun. you want to beat AND pick up? is this for rough shooting or a driven shoot? if its driven and you want to do both, get two dogs.

[lone wolf 0]

genetics is one thing colour another.the dog does not know what colour it is.in my opinion there are no bad dogs just bad trainers.labradors in the field have always been prodominantly black and therefore when a different colour does'nt perform well enough then the saying is it must be the colour thats the problem.how many black dogs have not been so good probabley, because of the amount of black far more, would be my guess.its for rough shooting and i now do have two dogs.all i can say is watch this space.regards LW

[kingfisher 0]

hi guys in the near future im looking at getting a working dog for beating/picking up and was advised to get a lab even though springers are suposed to be better and was just wandering why you would say chocolate labs are more stupid than black and yellows? isnt it just a fur colour?

 

i suppose it is just a fur colour, but noone i know will work them or even give them kennel space ~ i think the chocolate colour is a sign of dodgy genetics...someone smarter should be able to tell you. ive personally never seen a goodun. you want to beat AND pick up? is this for rough shooting or a driven shoot? if its driven and you want to do both, get two dogs.

it will be for driven and picking up, would it be confusing for the dog to do both? and would you agree with the advise i was given about a lab being a 1st dog? plus does it matter if the dog is kc reg? i would prefere it to be but was wandering if its essential

[landrover 6]

we 've done both black and chocolate and belive me you need a hell of a lot of patience with a chocolate one, but as you say it may be the trainer and you may be the exeption best of luck

[lampinglurcher 36]

wouldnt really want a picking up and beating dog working on a driven shoot, reason being that a picking up dog should stay at heel at all times until told to retrieve and a beating dog should spread out fairly far to put the birds up. you could have one do both but i wouldnt reccomend it.

[landrover 6]

why ! our labrador does both jobs and is very good at what she does

[polski 0]

Use my spaniels for beating and picking up, they adapt to whichever job they're asked to do.

 

Rick.

[jakeuk1 0]

The reason many people believe that chocolate labs dont make as good workers as yellow/black, is that at one time choc was quite a rare colour in labs, but the choc colour was highly desired, usually for non working pets, two choc labs were bred together wether they were good workers or not.

 

Many potential gundog owners would not consider buying a yellow/black lab without FTCH in their pedigree, whereas would purchase a choc lab just for the colour.

 

I have never owned a choc lab but have seen some excellent workers out in the field, but also some very head strong ones.

 

If both parents are obedient and work well there should be no problems.

[lampinglurcher 36]

why ! our labrador does both jobs and is very good at what she does

 

fair one.. on the shoots i pickup at theres a couple that try both and end up looking like fools. if your dog can do it thats great but alot of dogs struggle to know when to stay at heel to be set out and when to fan out themselves.

[mally 832]

why ! our labrador does both jobs and is very good at what she does

 

fair one.. on the shoots i pickup at theres a couple that try both and end up looking like fools. if your dog can do it thats great but alot of dogs struggle to know when to stay at heel to be set out and when to fan out themselves.

 

My lab bitch does both, If the dog has been trained to a good standard there's no reason why it can't do both.

We pickup on one shoot and beat on another. On some drives were asked to pickup and visa verse. You just need a level headed dog that does what it's told.

I also use my Lab to dog the birds back to the woods and coveys throughout the summer and shooting season, should i have another dog to do this???.

 

As for chocolate Labrador's,, there probably best in the show ring as i've yet to see one work proficient in the field

[alimac 882]

why ! our labrador does both jobs and is very good at what she does

 

fair one.. on the shoots i pickup at theres a couple that try both and end up looking like fools. if your dog can do it thats great but alot of dogs struggle to know when to stay at heel to be set out and when to fan out themselves.

 

 

i see where your coming from, picking up dogs out beating have a tendency to follow a line right to the flushing point or pegging rather than flushing a bird thats sitting tight.. but there are handlers / dogs that do both, a do them well..