scotlandforever 0 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) Hi everyone well i will be getting my first bird in 3 weeks today and have all my gear except my telemetry was thinking about waiting till after xmas but have just thought stuff it get it just now but dont know whick one have been told the marshal and luksander are like carrying suitcase and have been told the tiny-loc is very small and can go on a belt so what does everyone think i should get, it will be for a Male Harris and hopefully in a few years a longwing of some sort Cheers Jason Edited October 3, 2008 by scotlandforever Quote Link to post
Guest jbswildlife Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 you should not need it for a harris longwing yes any doubts pm me and I will get you in contact with a very good falconer Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I was recommended this set up many moons ago by Ron Digby and used this sytem Luksander MN10 since the beggining of the Nineties and so far has never missed a beat! it could do with Re-calibrateing now but thats about it. its been thrown on the floor slid off the car roof when I forgot about it and loaned out many times and still stayed very trustworthy. the only add on as you can see in the picture is a Pre - Amp Filter which came in from F & L Electronics in about 94 which also proved to be a good bye, it filters out alot of background noise and also Ampilfies the signal should it ever be needed. I havn't flown a Falcon for a Number of years so thankfully the Amp hasn't been needed but if I do it will be there should decided to take one of my youngsters up someday .... There's plenty of others on the Market these days and I have been tempted but the way I look at it is "if its not busted why mend it"...... Jasper Quote Link to post
scotlandforever 0 Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nice set up there jasper think i might be going for a marshal one but what one from them Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Its nothing special mate but it does the job as good as any other sytem on the Market for a decent price. at the end of the day all I'm interested in is locateing my bird and this has done it fine for me for years, I'm not into all the super Fandango gadgets that come with some systems! if its tracks well and I get a result with the bird back then its done its job in my book .... Jasper Quote Link to post
Sighthound 49 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I've this for sale. http://www.falconryelectronics.co.uk/page10.html pm me if interested Quote Link to post
Sighthound 49 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 you should not need it for a harris longwing yes any doubts pm me and I will get you in contact with a very good falconer I wish I had a pound every time I have heard this :thumbdown: Look at the IBR lost birds and see how many Harrises are on it Quote Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I was recommended this set up many moons ago by Ron Digby and used this sytem Luksander MN10 since the beggining of the Nineties and so far has never missed a beat! it could do with Re-calibrateing now but thats about it. its been thrown on the floor slid off the car roof when I forgot about it and loaned out many times and still stayed very trustworthy. the only add on as you can see in the picture is a Pre - Amp Filter which came in from F & L Electronics in about 94 which also proved to be a good bye, it filters out alot of background noise and also Ampilfies the signal should it ever be needed. I havn't flown a Falcon for a Number of years so thankfully the Amp hasn't been needed but if I do it will be there should decided to take one of my youngsters up someday .... There's plenty of others on the Market these days and I have been tempted but the way I look at it is "if its not busted why mend it"...... Jasper i have the exact same one jasper, and had to use it yesterday for the first time and it was bang on, my gos took off after a phessie in strong winds and i found him about a mile away in long grass, without the telem he was gone!! Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 They're worth their weight in Gold TJ . I have flown birds like Redtails without telemetry but they didn't go too far. having said that a Unfit Redtail will sometimes take a stroll down wind out of laziness of a breezy day, then again I this goes for most species.... The only thing with Telemetry is it can lead you into false security taking risks with weight control, without out it on a day when perhaps its blowing a Hooly or if a bird is over weight or a bit spooky we wouldn't fly it and take the risk, but when you have telemetry we're confident to get the bird back so risks are taken... telelemtry is a poor subsitute for good field craft and conditioning and weight control of a bird, although accidents happen on the best of birds going AWOL when in condition ... Jasper Quote Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 They're worth their weight in Gold TJ . I have flown birds like Redtails without telemetry but they didn't go too far. having said that a Unfit Redtail will sometimes take a stroll down wind out of laziness of a breezy day, then again I this goes for most species.... The only thing with Telemetry is it can lead you into false security taking risks with weight control, without out it on a day when perhaps its blowing a Hooly or if a bird is over weight or a bit spooky we wouldn't fly it and take the risk, but when you have telemetry we're confident to get the bird back so risks are taken... telelemtry is a poor subsitute for good field craft and conditioning and weight control of a bird, although accidents happen on the best of birds going AWOL when in condition ... Jasper it was really windy here a few days ago and i was going to fly in the shelter of a quarry on route i noticed 7-8 pheasants roadside, i stopped and slipped the gos, the wind caught them and they were away over the horizion i shouldnt have done it as it was too windy but temptation got the better of me, lesson learned Quote Link to post
Guest scottish-staffy Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) I was recommended this set up many moons ago by Ron Digby and used this sytem Luksander MN10 since the beggining of the Nineties and so far has never missed a beat! it could do with Re-calibrateing now but thats about it. its been thrown on the floor slid off the car roof when I forgot about it and loaned out many times and still stayed very trustworthy. the only add on as you can see in the picture is a Pre - Amp Filter which came in from F & L Electronics in about 94 which also proved to be a good bye, it filters out alot of background noise and also Ampilfies the signal should it ever be needed. I havn't flown a Falcon for a Number of years so thankfully the Amp hasn't been needed but if I do it will be there should decided to take one of my youngsters up someday .... There's plenty of others on the Market these days and I have been tempted but the way I look at it is "if its not busted why mend it"...... Jasper i had a luksander kit and loved it thot i would go for marchall thare trannys are ace but thare receavers i think have to manay buttons flashing lites e.c.t i can see me going back to a luksander receaver prob before i get my boy back from summerset Edited October 4, 2008 by scottish-staffy Quote Link to post
D.A.Z 0 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 i use one of these,and am very pleased with it,tbh i couldnt say if its any better or worse than others but it works great for me.the best thing for me is the size, it fits in my vest pocket no worries. http://www.falconryelectronics.co.uk/page39.html Quote Link to post
rickardo 76 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 ive got to say ive had 2 new 100channel marshall and am back using the luksander.. its just so reliable.. jasper does the filter make alot of difference.. and how much.. Quote Link to post
200gig 0 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Keep your eye on the frequencies as they are doing away with a few, when digi TV kicks in properly. They will be transmitting on the same frequency and will stamp all over your birds signal. Try to stick to 173 or 216Mhz as the 433Mhz is giong to get trashed. On the same note, look out for people in the know trying to get rid of the 433Mhz cheap. you could get burnt. Good luck.. Quote Link to post
SPAR 2 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 There was a lot of "hoo haa" last year about 216 freq I know a few people that still use it and they have said that all they have found with it is that it causes abit more interferance to the band. Im still playing safe with 173 freq. Quote Link to post
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