who believes the big cats are here then.

[mackem 26,264]

"The Staffordshire-triangle" kay?Strange things happen there

[mackem 26,264]

1980'sRichard?Photography has advanced in leaps and bounds since then,every man and his dog carries some form of digital camera nowadays,I am on about modern pics One puma skull has been found,also one skull found to have come from a taxidermised animal I used the amur leopard as an example,sub-species or not its still a lot scarcer than the UK cryptids if reports are to be believed,lives in very sparsly populated countryside where not everyone carries a cell-phone with digital capabilities,yet STILL theres plenty of footage and pics of them,wheres the crystal clear UK pics?Not one.................

[Kay 3,709]

"The Staffordshire-triangle" kay?Strange things happen there

 

Well i have lived here 43 yrs & never seen anything

[richard25 0]

I feel like i am becoming the Big cat super fan here trying to tell everyone there is big cats lol i must have got abit carried away.

 

I am be far no means a big cat person & to be honest i am canine lover personally & cats generally dont like me? but i just refuse to rule it out & i feel like i am defending them or something lol who gives a feck, i dont care that much i just have an interest in if there here or not

 

Who knows????

 

Did anyone watch the video links i posted??? any opinions? no?

 

You guys wait until my dogs catch a big cat & you see me in the paper with a lion found in central london.... You just wait

Edited September 29, 2008 by richard25

[mackem 26,264]

London zoos a good starting point Richard

[richard25 0]

lol I know i am right by there too... I might have to do some local night hunting with the dogs there.... I will feel sorry for the dogs though!

 

Oh On a sidenote what about the scottish wild cat? i atleast take it you believe in thoughs? would these be the most rare cat in the world??? maybe

[mackem 26,264]

My mums originally from the highlands,scottish wildcats certainly do exist Its the large labrador sized UK cryptids I have doubts about considering the incidence of melanism in leopards,the fact no one sees the normal commoner Rosette marked specimens,and the fact theres not one detailed,clear pic of one in the UK countryside,but its always good to play devils advocate

[mackem 26,264]

Adult Pumas have territory from 12-18 sq miles dependant upon quarry-density,which cat has several hundred miles of territory

 

a cat wae a railcard

Many a true word said in jest

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MulRaqOOWb0&...feature=related

[Guest scottish-staffy]

thare defo about seen them heard them and seen the evadance of them thareyou know when its around you as you dont see anay foxes or that on the beam then you see a quick glims of it on eand of beam and not agen for rest of night my nabers have seen big sandy clourd things prowling about in the streetlighs aswell olso a mate of mine has seen it and alot of the workers down the quorry

[will.f11 24]

Ive seen the beast of bodmin moor before. it was when we were out on my friends farm on the moor lamping when we saw it. it wasnt as big as people say it is and not as black, more of a chocolate lab colour lol. but it was definately the beast of bodmin moor

[swanseajack 227]

Ive seen the beast of bodmin moor

 

I heard a fireside chat

I saw a baseball bat

And I just laughed till I thought I'd die

But I'd been done seen about everything ................

 

[hue jeers 6]

Times like this I wish I was Mod so I could delete it at once

 

When City foxes are released ( allegedly) in the country side, they are caught up with pretty quickly, what the feck do you think an 8 foot long Puddy Cat is gonna do

 

Feck me, you can't have a piss up a tree without some fecker seeing you and we're supposed to have countless Lion's and Tiger's and Bear's roaming about

 

Ahh well, I feel better for that

[Guest richy]

there is no big cats just pussy cats gone wild

[mackem 26,264]

Dont piss on grey trees,they might actually be elephant legs

[Pops 19]

i'm not weighing in for or against, just want to point out a few facts that directly affect the discussion.

there is no such thing as a black puma. melanistic pumas are a dark red brown similar to the color of a chocolate lab. a puma the size of a lab (70-90#) would only be about 50-75# which would be an adolescent regardless of subspecies (the South American ones common in the exotic pet trade top out at 150# for an old tom while very old North Americans can reach 200#). the actual range for females tend to be closer to 50-100 sq mi and males upwards of 500sq mi. ranges tend to overlap even between the same sex. they work their range in a big loop, so if you see it today tommorrow it's likely to be 20 miles away. they DO NOT open the paunch or eat internal organs, they eat the mucle starting w/ the hams. they cover an unfinished kill w/ debris.

the leopard is the most common black cat in the exotic pet trade. same size range as the SA puma. it also does not normally open the paunch, but it does normally carry a kill up a tree even in the absence of competing large predators.

the jaguar is the other large black cat, extremely rare in the exotic pet trade. toms will commonly reach 250#. they are exceptionally agressive compared to other large cats (ever notice no trainers use them for acts). they may open the paunch but also covers an unfinished kill.

 

opening the paunch and leaving a kill in the open are common canine attributes equally true of wolves, coyotes, jackals, dingos and feral dogs.