undisputed 1,664 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Someone mention Plummer bit bright out tonight is it mak? or you still realing from the other nights lucky escape :clapper:undisputed.you drinking agian mate? or am i juss a bit confused? how do you make that cross 3/4? Think its deff a case of you being confused....do I really have to explain how you get a 3/4 deer/grey x or a 3/4 collie/grey x...thought you bred dog's Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Someone mention Plummer bit bright out tonight is it mak? or you still realing from the other nights lucky escape :clapper:undisputed.you drinking agian mate? or am i juss a bit confused? how do you make that cross 3/4? Think its deff a case of you being confused....do I really have to explain how you get a 3/4 deer/grey x or a 3/4 collie/grey x...thought you bred dog's unless your talking 8ths of collie n deer yes please Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 what type of lurchers or breed?? A long time before Plummer (or anyone else!) started writing books on the 'virtues' of all an sundry crosses, there where Lurchers kept of unknown ancestry and breeding..... Worker to worker, with no definate 'type'..... maybe so but collie and grey have always featured whether it be the old smithfield collie or the present border/beardie x....Poachers of old knew the virtues of such a x....and didn't kill for killings sake. I don't doubt that, Undisputed, collie has always had a part to play (and usually a big part at that!) but for me, traditionalist or not, and being old enough to look back, those old, 'all an sundry types' did the job, and did it well............. I do belive these days, we get far to hung up on what 'composits a lurcher in breakdown' rather than how dogs actually perform under real conditions....??? Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 what type of lurchers or breed?? A long time before Plummer (or anyone else!) started writing books on the 'virtues' of all an sundry crosses, there where Lurchers kept of unknown ancestry and breeding..... Worker to worker, with no definate 'type'..... maybe so but collie and grey have always featured whether it be the old smithfield collie or the present border/beardie x....Poachers of old knew the virtues of such a x....and didn't kill for killings sake. I don't doubt that, Undisputed, collie has always had a part to play (and usually a big part at that!) but for me, traditionalist or not, and being old enough to look back, those old, 'all an sundry types' did the job, and did it well............. I do belive these days, we get far to hung up on what 'composits a lurcher in breakdown' rather than how dogs actually perform under real conditions....??? agree with you totally there mate....I have always had collie x's some with whippet and grey blood and have moved on to 3/4 grey x's I like this x and find it the most versatile for what I do...I think a lot of todays youngsters get hung up on numbers especially on red and thats how the value their dogs by the amount of red they kill and discard them if they dont meet these standards which is not what these dogs are really about..imo Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Someone mention Plummer bit bright out tonight is it mak? or you still realing from the other nights lucky escape :clapper:undisputed.you drinking agian mate? or am i juss a bit confused? how do you make that cross 3/4? Think its deff a case of you being confused....do I really have to explain how you get a 3/4 deer/grey x or a 3/4 collie/grey x...thought you bred dog's unless your talking 8ths of collie n deer yes please Aye your deff confused mate I meant either a 3/4 grey 1/4 deerhound and same mix with collie...lay of the bicardie breezers...lol Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 what type of lurchers or breed?? A long time before Plummer (or anyone else!) started writing books on the 'virtues' of all an sundry crosses, there where Lurchers kept of unknown ancestry and breeding..... Worker to worker, with no definate 'type'..... maybe so but collie and grey have always featured whether it be the old smithfield collie or the present border/beardie x....Poachers of old knew the virtues of such a x....and didn't kill for killings sake. I don't doubt that, Undisputed, collie has always had a part to play (and usually a big part at that!) but for me, traditionalist or not, and being old enough to look back, those old, 'all an sundry types' did the job, and did it well............. I do belive these days, we get far to hung up on what 'composits a lurcher in breakdown' rather than how dogs actually perform under real conditions....??? agree with you totally there mate....I have always had collie x's some with whippet and grey blood and have moved on to 3/4 grey x's I like this x and find it the most versatile for what I do...I think a lot of todays youngsters get hung up on numbers especially on red and thats how the value their dogs by the amount of red they kill and discard them if they dont meet these standards which is not what these dogs are really about..imo Yep, it's about what 'works' for you, your game, not whats in a dogs make up and more of how it performs. Though, I'll admit, I've always chased the numbers whenever I had opportunity BUT for me, it's always been about versitility, rarley directed on one quarry. Bred and worked right, a good lurcher should be a jack of all trades AND a master of one...imo? Quote Link to post
Guest archiet Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Good reply Bosun11,it's good to see one or two sensible posts especially as recently on other threads you'd think there had been a major escape from an asylum and they have all congregated here on THL Quote Link to post
bird 9,968 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 what type of lurchers or breed?? A long time before Plummer (or anyone else!) started writing books on the 'virtues' of all an sundry crosses, there where Lurchers kept of unknown ancestry and breeding..... Worker to worker, with no definate 'type'..... maybe so but collie and grey have always featured whether it be the old smithfield collie or the present border/beardie x....Poachers of old knew the virtues of such a x....and didn't kill for killings sake. I don't doubt that, Undisputed, collie has always had a part to play (and usually a big part at that!) but for me, traditionalist or not, and being old enough to look back, those old, 'all an sundry types' did the job, and did it well............. I do belive these days, we get far to hung up on what 'composits a lurcher in breakdown' rather than how dogs actually perform under real conditions....??? agree with you totally there mate....I have always had collie x's some with whippet and grey blood and have moved on to 3/4 grey x's I like this x and find it the most versatile for what I do...I think a lot of todays youngsters get hung up on numbers especially on red and thats how the value their dogs by the amount of red they kill and discard them if they dont meet these standards which is not what these dogs are really about..imo Yep, it's about what 'works' for you, your game, not whats in a dogs make up and more of how it performs. Though, I'll admit, I've always chased the numbers whenever I had opportunity BUT for me, it's always been about versitility, rarley directed on one quarry. Bred and worked right, a good lurcher should be a jack of all trades AND a master of one...imo? Spot on, [1] colliexs= 1x , 3/8,. [2] pit bull bitch, ive had both, and very loyal+loving dogs. In the right hands , both make great +honest workers. BIRD Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 what type of lurchers or breed?? collie/grey or deerhound/grey....3/4 x of course my apoligys i misread your post was getting late and i had a drunk woman in my ear at the time, i seem to have read the or as a a x somehow but then agian my question was if you could have one dog which would it be and why? you seem to have two Quote Link to post
Guest traceyg Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I have four dogs and love them all But Molly my little whippet is my favourite .don't know why i just love her to bits Quote Link to post
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Guest ooty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 would seem the general balance tips toward the collie blood in some way.some exerlent posts there.have to agree with the majority,my only dog if icould only have one would have to be a collie lined kur. Quote Link to post
Jack NUFC 1 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) . Edited January 6, 2009 by ferretingkid Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 would seem the general balance tips toward the collie blood in some way.some exerlent posts there.have to agree with the majority,my only dog if icould only have one would have to be a collie lined kur. you never stop making me laugh ooty .the lined kur nothing like blowing the old :trumpet: Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) would seem the general balance tips toward the collie blood in some way.some exerlent posts there.have to agree with the majority,my only dog if icould only have one would have to be a collie lined kur. you never stop making me laugh ooty .the lined kur nothing like blowing the old :trumpet: its good to laugh ,i mean it,mine will always be the ol fasioned collie kur,sold the brindle dog pup today to a pet home .i have warned them dont leave it in the house on its own to long, :whistling:still got yours mate!! Edited September 13, 2008 by ooty Quote Link to post
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