rolly 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Anybody ever have a dogo x greyhound/deerhound/staghound? Pretty athletic dogs, been seeing lots of alaunt and other bull crosses. Figured these were for boar and jaguar, a fast dog in the mix would make an interesting cross. Quote Link to post
hang & bang 114 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 stick whit the game bread pits over hound bitchs why use dogo Quote Link to post
rolly 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Don't know why dogo? Why not, you don't need a game bred (dog fighter) crossed with fast dog to catch game do you? Wouldn't a bully dog with bite, athletic ability, and no/less dog aggression do about the same thing? Would be an interesting cross, not necessarily something I'd do......or not do.... New to lurchers trying to figure out how the pit/gh cross became so popular. Quote Link to post
hang & bang 114 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 ill leave ye to it not been a prick just not going ino it , thy have no use dogo x in ireland or uk , lads from u s a answer ye better mate Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 there a band breed over here Quote Link to post
Pops 19 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 they use this cross in their packs in argentina. they stop the hog then the dogo catches it and good ones run on after more hogs. for more info ask about it on dogo mans message board hosted by boardhost. Quote Link to post
shaddow 166 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 i have a freind in europe with a dogo x greyhound , only around 12months old , but meant to be coming on really well , a lot better than expectd dogos are a little more athletic than say a pitbull , they were bred for the stamina too , so i would reckon a 1st cross dogo/greyhound put back to a good lurcher would possibly produce something really good Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 i have a freind in europe with a dogo x greyhound , only around 12months old , but meant to be coming on really well , a lot better than expectddogos are a little more athletic than say a pitbull , they were bred for the stamina too , so i would reckon a 1st cross dogo/greyhound put back to a good lurcher would possibly produce something really good no argument intended her but to say a pit is not athletic seems a little harsh,most ive seen are very athletic (most bred for the job) not the big boy show sh!t.would like to see a dogo cross though. Quote Link to post
Pops 19 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 max although widely and incorrectly used, gamebred literally means bred from dogs proven in the box. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I have seen a bunch of dogos and none of them even compared to the athletic ability of a good game bred bulldog. Not even in the same ballpark. Personally, I think them dogo are a joke as far as a catch dog goes. As far as breeding them to a greyhound though and wanting to kill shit, that would work for sure but I still dont think they would have the foots speed of a greyhoundxbulldog cross. They seem to be more of a novalty than a workin dog. Quote Link to post
Guest proudy Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 first of not trying to be a know it all but a pit bull was orignaley bredas a working dog to herd cattle so its got more braines than people give it credit for. its gameness and drive come froma desire to please its master the same desire that will make him fight till the end in a match. pitbull are not agressif they are good dogs. a dogo was bred to be a hunting dog nothing else they are a bit bigger and have a better nose for scent. had a first x dogo sire dogo dam irish corsinggrey hound 28tts good dog just could not hold the turnes as tight as a bull x of the same size but good and drivey a pit bull was orignaley bredas a working dog to herd cattle Never heard that before, as far as the breed can be traced back they have always been used for fighting/baiting. where did your imformation come from? Just curious Quote Link to post
Nick 14 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I have seen a bunch of dogos and none of them even compared to the athletic ability of a good game bred bulldog. Not even in the same ballpark. Personally, I think them dogo are a joke as far as a catch dog goes. As far as breeding them to a greyhound though and wanting to kill shit, that would work for sure but I still dont think they would have the foots speed of a greyhoundxbulldog cross. They seem to be more of a novalty than a workin dog.Mate thats because loads of Dogo are already for long not bred anymore as a huntingdog. The original working dogo is no Catch dog but a hunting dog using his own nose and working without crosses to track the Wild Boar or Puma. They hunt in packs, and walk sometimes for more than 12 to 14 hours beside the horse in Cordoba. The show breeders on the other hand are said to have crossed their dogs with Great Dane, to get them bigger! Is much better selling If you say that most Dogo's are worth shit you are right, but there are breeders who still keep them going as they should be. A few months ago the FCI made it possible to enter a working class in Argentina with your Dogo, only tested dogs can enter that class! The one on the left is a bitch named Agustina de la Cocha, and the dog on the right is Morocho de la Cocha. These dogs are hunting on Wild boar and Puma. Sometimes those Wild Boar are 250 kg plus! The breeder of these dogs has much more dogs like this, he is selecting the old way. These dogs are fully hunting, and do not back up for anything. But they are generally not dog agressive, specially not the ones who do the creole hunting in Argentina, as they have to hunt in packs. We are lucky to get that left bitch end of this month This picture was made in Argentina, left Agustina de la Cocha, right Morocho de la Cocha Morocho de la Cocha Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You are exactly right, Nick. Very good post there bro. I agree with what you said especially the part about them not being bred to be catch dogs. They are not really. They catch but they readjust and such and that is not good when you are using one single dog as a catch dog. I also agree with you about why most of them are shit and its a damn shame but alot of breeds of dogs are tending that way. Pet breeders are ruining a many of dogs. Quote Link to post
Nick 14 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You are exactly right, Nick. Very good post there bro. I agree with what you said especially the part about them not being bred to be catch dogs. They are not really. They catch but they readjust and such and that is not good when you are using one single dog as a catch dog. I also agree with you about why most of them are shit and its a damn shame but alot of breeds of dogs are tending that way. Pet breeders are ruining a many of dogs.Don't misunderstand me, they can catch a Hog singlehanded, same as with a Puma. But they are bred to do the whole trick including the hunting themselves. If somebody only wants a catchdog, you can basicly use all Mastifflike dogs as long as they have the balls. For the whole traject only some can do this, and a good Dogo is bred for this, but too little sadly. Quote Link to post
rolly 0 Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Didn't mean to bring a bad light on the pits fellas. I like them plenty, but a lot of people throw around the term "game" bred and that means one thing. Didn't know why pits, not a hunting dog by nature, are preferred over something that is a hunting dog by creation? Real pits are probably the best athletes in the dog world, but that doesn't mean Matt Hughes or George St. Pierre are going to win a gold in the 100m hurdles sprint or 5000m run. Not intended to be 100% accurate, but you get what I mean. Certain things for certain things. Seems the "real" dogos aren't a joke and are LESS dog aggressive than most pits used in making a lurcher cross. Again, just inquiring. I'm not making this cross, thought somebody might have in the past, present, or might in the future. Don't want to get into the pet or show thing here either. There are plenty specimens of ALL breeds getting ruined by this group of people. Just remember, only people breeding the dogs can prevent them from going the wrong way. If dogos are shit now, it's hunter's faults for letting them get into the hands of NON-hunters. Shame on us as a whole. Very interesting to see where this thread went though...... Quote Link to post
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