FUJI 17,327 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 FEBUARY DAY TIME HARES.... NOW THATS A DIFFERENT MATTER Aye,your right chap,the majority of does are carrying young!! Another one who has obviously done nothing or little,jesus!!..hares start pairing up mid to late January ESPECIALLY further South where it is profoundly warmer by a degree or two..and where are the SUPER FENS where supposedly it's the ultimate test for running dogs?? It makes me wonder at times if anyone on here has actually ever done any form of hunting?? Rant over..sorry!! All the best PP. Quote Link to post
halfx 3 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 FEBUARY DAY TIME HARES.... NOW THATS A DIFFERENT MATTER Aye,your right chap,the majority of does are carrying young!! Another one who has obviously done nothing or little,jesus!!..hares start pairing up mid to late January ESPECIALLY further South where it is profoundly warmer by a degree or two..and where are the SUPER FENS where supposedly it's the ultimate test for running dogs?? It makes me wonder at times if anyone on here has actually ever done any form of hunting?? Rant over..sorry!! All the best PP. just because its called the hunting life dont expect to find many hunters here,this place is a magnet for special needs folk. Quote Link to post
lakeman 12 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Aye,your right chap,the majority of does are carrying young!! Another one who has obviously done nothing or little,jesus!!..hares start pairing up mid to late January ESPECIALLY further South where it is profoundly warmer by a degree or two..and where are the SUPER FENS where supposedly it's the ultimate test for running dogs?? It makes me wonder at times if anyone on here has actually ever done any form of hunting?? Rant over..sorry!! All the best PP. Waterloo Cup........ Anglian Cup.... run in Feb. My point was a good winter hare, given yards law is a far truer test of a dogs ability than one kicked out of a seat at night and slipped at 5 yards................. but like you say... i've done nothing Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 If Im included here Joe ,let me say that because I dont lamp hares ,means I condemn those who do, each to their own. I wonder how you know those who dont lamp hares are "out early morning/evening ,as soon as the corns cut , on the stubbles kicking hares up"? I think that is an assumption, not backed by proof. As you know, hares run immediately after the harvest are easier to catch ,because 1. they are not as strong as the winter hares,and 2,.they are somewhat disorientated by losing their natural cover and habitat changing. I don't see why there has to be an immediate divide between lampers and day time lads,I do both activities and most of my friends do too. I just dont lamp hares, my choice. My experience of the stubbles just after cutting is that the ground is usually far to hard to run on, but then Preban I never ran hares before mid October. I agree not all lamped hares are easy ,but I think you will agree they are easier than daytime ones. The dog has not been bred that could catch 17 in the daytime. inan I said most not all and what I said wasnt assumption. The point I was trying to get at was to many people are throwing stones when they live in glass houses hypocrisy I think its called. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 lamping hare aint rocket science when i was a hungry fecher u got 4 pound a hare 1 50 apound for roe most hares i took big ones was twelve but no bost and on the same nite 5 roe now with handy dogs it can be done now i get one when asked and run the hell out them early morning come oct onwards but if im out at nite and want afew for someone i will kill them end of story and no c will change me Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 If Im included here Joe ,let me say that because I dont lamp hares ,means I condemn those who do, each to their own. I wonder how you know those who dont lamp hares are "out early morning/evening ,as soon as the corns cut , on the stubbles kicking hares up"? I think that is an assumption, not backed by proof. As you know, hares run immediately after the harvest are easier to catch ,because 1. they are not as strong as the winter hares,and 2,.they are somewhat disorientated by losing their natural cover and habitat changing. I don't see why there has to be an immediate divide between lampers and day time lads,I do both activities and most of my friends do too. I just dont lamp hares, my choice. My experience of the stubbles just after cutting is that the ground is usually far to hard to run on, but then Preban I never ran hares before mid October. I agree not all lamped hares are easy ,but I think you will agree they are easier than daytime ones. The dog has not been bred that could catch 17 in the daytime. inan I said most not all and what I said wasnt assumption. The point I was trying to get at was to many people are throwing stones when they live in glass houses hypocrisy I think its called. I agree with you [for once ] Joe , there are of lads who call themselves coursing men ,who dont even have a close season,we have all seen the pathetic pics put up in mid summer,the nudge nudge wink wink ,"my dog retreived this shot hare" ,and in the picture is a leveret. With some smug silly prat holding it up like its some feat. I don't know why night and day hunters have to be at each others throats, both activities are great sport imo. I have to admit ,when I see a row of hares laid out that have been shot or lamped I feel a bit sad ,but each to their own. "Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone".Is that what you meant? Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 "Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone".Is that what you meant? You agreeing with me I never thought I would see that day and yes thats what I meant Quote Link to post
Lennard 10 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I continue untill I have one and then I go home. Quote Link to post
Guest ROUGH COATED Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 36 with a QUEEN ANN RUSSELL Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) Waterloo Cup........ Anglian Cup.... run in Feb.My point was a good winter hare, given yards law is a far truer test of a dogs ability than one kicked out of a seat at night and slipped at 5 yards................. but like you say... i've done nothing But does that mean it's RIGHT and the BEST time just because the Waterloo was ran in late Feb or early March? Many of the major coursing meetings ie:Scottish National,Barbican Cup etc: were ran in November & December and many of the leading dogs from those meets ran against each other in the Waterloo at the "championship" finale,obviously running the Waterloo in Nov/Dec would of meant that many of the other meets couldn't of been ran any sooner unless they were summertime coursers ,was it originally ran as a season's final much like they do in National Hunt horse racing for example?.Like Inan said in one of his earlier posts this divide between day/night running is ludicrous or so it seems on here anyway? I have no problem be it day/night/dog/net/shooting or whatever else anyone decides to use to catch a hare after all a dead hare is a dead hare is it not? I totally agree with you on your views of a test of a dogs ability but February imo is a no-no :angry ,i've also done nothing to some either but i've done more than 99% . Enjoy your sport folks whatever it may be? All the best PP. Edited September 14, 2009 by poacherspocket22 Quote Link to post
fred dog 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 A nights lamping brought 22 long eared rabbits 17/17 to my 16month saluki/ghound upload photo's later . So what is your personnel best 1 dog leave them four day time Quote Link to post
AL BUNDY 45 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Waterloo Cup........ Anglian Cup.... run in Feb.My point was a good winter hare, given yards law is a far truer test of a dogs ability than one kicked out of a seat at night and slipped at 5 yards................. but like you say... i've done nothing But does that mean it's RIGHT and the BEST time just because the Waterloo was ran in late Feb or early March? Many of the major coursing meetings ie:Scottish National,Barbican Cup etc: were ran in November & December and many of the leading dogs from those meets ran against each other in the Waterloo at the "championship" finale,obviously running the Waterloo in Nov/Dec would of meant that many of the other meets couldn't of been ran any sooner unless they were summertime coursers ,was it originally ran as a season's final much like they do in National Hunt horse racing for example?.Like Inan said in one of his earlier posts this divide between day/night running is ludicrous or so it seems on here anyway? I have no problem be it day/night/dog/net/shooting or whatever else anyone decides to use to catch a hare after all a dead hare is a dead hare is it not? I totally agree with you on your views of a test of a dogs ability but February imo is a no-no :angry ,i've also done nothing to some either but i've done more than 99% . Enjoy your sport folks whatever it may be? All the best PP. this is where this argument falls down night time is not coursing in the same way as daytime and greyhound coursing as far removed again. Quote Link to post
Guest Bennybhoy Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 A nights lamping brought 22 long eared rabbits 17/17 to my 16month saluki/ghound upload photo's later . So what is your personnel best 1 dog 0 Quote Link to post
Guest Bennybhoy Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 to all the people who have posted on here saying leave them for day time, , and i would never lamp a hare, , would you change you ways if the famer who gave you shite hot permission, from ferreting, to diggin, to lamping, to shooting, ratting and even fishing, said will you control some hares on a night time ? , , for what ever reasons, i,e to many prying eyes on he day and because of gamebirds, , what would be your answere ? barring in mind if you dont he will get someone else in to shoot them in massive numbers, , because thats what i came across pre ban many a times, , just intersted what people ideas are, atb, , I WOULD SAY "LET SOMEONE ELSE'S CONCIENCE GET THE BETTER OF THEM,IT WONT BE MINE." Quote Link to post
big boy 16 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I was talking to a guy just last week who was part of a keepers shoot at six mile bottom that shot over 900 hares in two days !! So I can't see the problem in lamping a few with the dogs. In answer to the origional question, I've had two in a night, but that was by accident, when lamping rabbits; I personaly prefer daytime for hares, pre ban, of course !Cheers. each one 2 there own mate, my opinion is a hare should be coursed and not shot! i shoot aswell but would never think of shooting a hare, i would rather give this fine animal a chance to prove itself one on one with a lurcher than fill it full of lead, just my opinion lads Never shot a hare in my life, and never would ! Cheers. I SECOND THAT Quote Link to post
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