Guest markbrick1 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 does the all rounder exist????my oppinion is no,anyway not to an experianced lurcher man/womens standard,when i was a younger man we used to see adverts for all rounders pups and adults but when we saw this great title it was always followed by a great price always beyond my financial situation so of coarse i was always left with the home bred stuff of the family another advert in the local rags when advertising lurchers and pups for sale was H,J,K,C also these arnt seen much these days either are more i dont buy papers and mags that sell lurchers so there fore dont really know as we all know i do a bit of braggin about my wee dogs mainly in good faith and humour but no way would i call them all rounders,a dog that is close would be lady are should i say the closest in my kennels.............the brindle she would do deer and fox pre ban but no were near as good as a bull cross are a purpose bred dog she will catch rabbit on the lamp very well and bolted rabbits in the day with the ferrets excellant but wont mark as good as a lot of ferreters dogs are bush like a certain few lurchers entering thick nettles after its quarry,she will retreave fur and feather to a gun and she is 100%around any livestock,but is no way an all rounder,hares well she could catch the odd ones as good as any half cross but she isnt match potential by anyones standards anyway some very good replys and thanks for ignoring levellers request to not post on here,due to another post being similar to this hes a complete messer Quote Link to post
mackem 26,768 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fur&feather catching,long&gate-netting,ferreting,lamping,daytime coursing specialist?Guess whats rarer than the actual fabled canine itself?Someone with the skill,time,and patience to train the beast I dont think your going to get one single person on here who will claim to have such a legend living in their kennels today Quote Link to post
mackem 26,768 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 With the advent of lamping long-netting wasnt as popular though its undergoing a resurgence of interest with 'Tinternet and quick-set systems,but nocturnal netting requires a dog that shepherds and hunts up,lamping is the total opposite,point-and-shoot,without doing an impersonation of one of Gordy Browns cabinet,and using one word instead of ten anyone care to explain for thickos like myself how even a MENSA registered canine understands the complexities of each task on a given night Your netting one night and the creature uses its olfactory senses,next night artificial-light and the legendary "All-rounder" differentiates? Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 thanks for ignoring levellers request to not post on here,due to another post being similar to this hes a complete messer I'm not a complete messer Rick that's unfair I go lamping twice a year with my old Lurcher and once back in 1988 I even had a day out with a terrierman so that's not fair calling me a complete messer Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fur&feather catching,long&gate-netting,ferreting,lamping,daytime coursing specialist?Guess whats rarer than the actual fabled canine itself?Someone with the skill,time,and patience to train the beast I dont think your going to get one single person on here who will claim to have such a legend living in their kennels today dont no bout that but i lived off mine and my dogs wits for meny years,i still enjoy long netting gate netting,lamping, daytime.night time courseing,dogs even CAUGHT FISH!! dont see whats so hard bout training a dog to do all those things?its a matter of spending enough time with them and imo collie blood gives them a natural head start.and c,w,if a dog is stock broken it was f**k all good to me at one time,food is food,and we all need to eat,i had little need for money when i lived contently off the land travalling round the country with my lot Quote Link to post
mackem 26,768 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ooty,if you have had a single dog that mastered every-single one of those tasks then I take my hat off to you,your a better man than me Gunga-din,and I have never seen fish-coursing Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fur&feather catching,long&gate-netting,ferreting,lamping,daytime coursing specialist?Guess whats rarer than the actual fabled canine itself?Someone with the skill,time,and patience to train the beast I dont think your going to get one single person on here who will claim to have such a legend living in their kennels today dont no bout that but i lived off mine and my dogs wits for meny years,i still enjoy long netting gate netting,lamping, daytime.night time courseing,dogs even CAUGHT FISH!! dont see whats so hard bout training a dog to do all those things?its a matter of spending enough time with them and imo collie blood gives them a natural head start.and c,w,if a dog is stock broken it was f**k all good to me at one time,food is food,and we all need to eat,i had little need for money when i lived contently off the land travalling round the country with my lot A fish catching dog...now that's something I would love to see mate...lol.....and as for being easy to train a dog to do these things...there's some folk in here would have trouble getting their dog's to sit...lol Quote Link to post
Guest Taffybull Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 there's some folk in here would have trouble getting their dog's to sit...lol spot on Quote Link to post
Tarmac 1 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 All-rounders do exist, but are like gold dust.... I've seen one, I didn't own him, and the dog was "a true all-rounder" I didn't really realise how good the dog was until he had died, he was never bred from, as there was a lack of good enough bitches around, a crying shame... A lot of people do not need a "true all-rounder" simply because everybody has there own preferences on game they run and the land they run on, and the majority stick to one thing. Personally I could do with an all-rounder, but I just don't think I’ll find one very quickly! Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ooty,if you have had a single dog that mastered every-single one of those tasks then I take my hat off to you,your a better man than me Gunga-din,and I have never seen fish-coursing Gunger din? only once myself,thought it might intrest you stood out on a welsh estuary drinking vertualy cold brandy coffee under a full moon/ the bungay bad boys death or glory A.A. had been on one our boarder raids for about a week,hadnt caught much in the way of fish by this point ,haddent been caught either though so things were good but then suddenly hit into a skhool of dog(coicidence ) fish comeing up the tide,my old half x collie lurcher kur had been trying to work out why we kept draging these things up the beach and chucking thm on a heap, anyway,shes sat at the edge of high water looking into the water poised like a cat.suddenly shes in the water and out,live hand retrieves a dog fish coulnt believe it myself,just turned casually to my mate who stood as gob smacked as me,saying f**k! did that just happen?? yer i said,thats fur feather people and fish now, couldnt beleave it myself,but knowing the dog,i dont put anything past her.theres meny more things shes pulled off over the years id have trouble convinceing anyone who never new the dg were true Quote Link to post
mackem 26,768 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fur,feather,and fin Well,I dare say that constitutes an all-rounder,now if you could just teach her to cast a fly Quote Link to post
macker 5 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 some great replys there lads with out getting into arguments which can happen to often i think. i really think the really top class dogs out there can some times adjust to alot of our needs. alrounder is well to used these days alot of people have them but when you see them most of the time they are not what we hoped. craking topic macker Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) Fur,feather,and fin Well,I dare say that constitutes an all-rounder,now if you could just teach her to cast a fly i wish mate but shes getting on in years now i have two of her daughters(one in my aviator)i get a good bag when out with them and there top end is faster but they dont yet have her talant for mindreading.and shes bit 3 differnt coppers so that could be fur feather fish people ang pig? Edited September 8, 2008 by ooty Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 why would an all round lurcher need to take fox or course a hare [catch a hare yes] a lurcher is meant to provide food for the pot & to be an all rounder that is all it should be required to do catching all sorts of fur & feather [the fin is a bonus] coursing is sport & foxing is pest control therefor should not be included.jmo ATB Pritch Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 why would an all round lurcher need to take fox or course a hare [catch a hare yes] a lurcher is meant to provide food for the pot & to be an all rounder that is all it should be required to do catching all sorts of fur & feather [the fin is a bonus] coursing is sport & foxing is pest control therefor should not be included.jmo ATB Pritch is this a genuine question from a youngster? Quote Link to post
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