what is everyones oppinion on a all rounder

[Guest markbrick1]

For me it's a dog that can be placed first in the smooth coated over 22" ring then go on to become the show champion and qualify for chatsworth, win the long jump, the high jump and the simulated coursing by winning all that stuff the dog earns it's keep as you always win dog food.

 

Most importantly of all it needs to be to look good on the internet forums so it's important that it can learn the stay command when I set up pictures of roadkill and stuff from my freezer to make it look like it killed a lot of gear.

every time you post its a piss take on here if someone posts like you do on here on moochers you deleate there post,what a prick you are and at that a nu 1 prick

[Guest Leveller]

You know the rules and so do I, a full commitments what Im thinking of, you wouldnt get this from any other guy, I just wanna tell you how Im feeling, gotta make you understand, never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around and desert you, never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye, never gonna tell a lie and hurt you!

 

Rick I already told you I've never deleted any of your posts.

 

It's called banter markchickwithadickbrick1 you ought to lighten up you big fanny I'm going to take the piss out of you for two reasons

 

#1. you've seen a post on here that is 4 pages long it's still active and only a page away at present and you thought " cor that's going well I'll have a piece of that but I want people to think I thought of it "

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...showtopic=63483

 

#2. you have no sense of humour

 

What is a nu?

[LDR 29]

Says alot about someone who knows the lyrics to that song.........i had to ask my misses what it was...................

[leegreen 2,181]

Has anyone stopped to think what the term "allrounder" actually means?............to my mind, it is a dog that can perform EVERY task asked of it in the field.

 

That means it can take the full range of quarry on a regular basis (not just now and again), it can mark, it can work with nets, it can work with the gun and retrieve on land and in water, it shows a high degree of obidience at both short and long distances...........and perform all these tasks WELL!!

 

IMHO, there just aint that many out there............you may once in a lifetime get such a dog because all the circumstances dictate that you can.........i.e......you have the sheer amount of time and patience no to mention the skill to train a dog to be this way and you have a dog upto the task.

 

Its just not gonna happen that much I am afraid folks..........thats why I dont take much notice when people say they have an "Allrounder".........IMHO, not many do or ever will.

I think he may of ment running dog stuff or maybe with a few extra skills. A lot of bods have limited work for dogs any way so they rarely get the chance to add skills to their CV. All said, time and lots of it if you are really to make any think like a good "all rounder"

[LDR 29]

Says alot about someone who knows the lyrics to that song.........i had to ask my misses what it was...................

 

pmsfl now thats funny lol i had to do the very same thing haha

 

 

I couldn't figure out what it meant, so i said can you figure out what thats about?????????? boom rick astley!!!!! She reckons he's got a greatest hits out at the min, so thats prob why, it'll be fresh in his mind!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[lamping-lad 160]

NO SUCH THING AS AN ALL ROUNDER EVERY DOG HAS ITS FAULTS AND NO DOG CAN PERFORM EVERY ASPECT OF DOG FEILD WORK.

[macker 5]

most of the people that have never seen a good alrounder

is because they dont do alround work them selves

or are going for specialist bred dogs for their quarry.

the last one i know of is fourteen now.

think people get carried away with the word alrounder

i think if you have a dog that you never have leave behind

in the yard for everything you hunt its an alrounder and have seen some very good alrounders make

a show of specialist dogs be it bull crosses and saluki crosses.

the only thing is they are that hard to get they can be once offs.

give me a good alrounder anyday as half of the specialist dogs dont make the grade

either.

just an opinion

macker

[harddigging 42]

27 in rough coated dog mate i'd say!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

whats diss a rough coat do to make a dog a allrounder Mmmmm i wonder

 

 

private joke mate, i wouldn't worry about it.............

a 27 inch dog called bruce and harddiggin would you want a dog that would always be outperformed on the night by a better dog?????????????are would you except the all rounder to excell at one thing and was just really good are good at all others,say a bull x fantastic at big stuff pre ban but could do hares and lamp rabbits very well are a saluki 3 out of 3 fen hares and kill fox lamp rabbit and track deer all very well but very well on the fens??????????? and longdogrunner bruce would be ideal for blackpool sands mate MP personally i cant see a 20 inch dog as a allrounder but i have been wrong before so no disrespect,mark

 

when i say jack off all trades master off non that is what i belive people class as an allrounder a dog which will go out run all quarry but only be average on every thing it runs. there are serten crosses bred for certain quarry for a reason fair enougth you could try to incorperate all the crosses creating a bitza lurcher but one breed will allways be dominent. i dont believe there is a such thing as an allrounder what type off cross do you think it would be one which can compete against a saluki greyhound on the fens or a whippet on the padocks a bullcross taking fox and larger quarry on a daily basis getting niped ontop off nips or a collie greyhound working with ferrets and nets i dont believe ther is a dog on this planet that could compete against the best off them breeds at there intended job. dont get me wrong there be plenty off dogs out there that will take all types off quarry but not on a dailly basis and not under all circumstances sorry if i offend anybody and shatter dreams but i obviously was miss understood when i first posted

[Bosun11 537]

Has anyone stopped to think what the term "allrounder" actually means?............to my mind, it is a dog that can perform EVERY task asked of it in the field.

 

That means it can take the full range of quarry on a regular basis (not just now and again), it can mark, it can work with nets, it can work with the gun and retrieve on land and in water, it shows a high degree of obidience at both short and long distances...........and perform all these tasks WELL!!

 

IMHO, there just aint that many out there............you may once in a lifetime get such a dog because all the circumstances dictate that you can.........i.e......you have the sheer amount of time and patience no to mention the skill to train a dog to be this way and you have a dog upto the task.

 

Its just not gonna happen that much I am afraid folks..........thats why I dont take much notice when people say they have an "Allrounder".........IMHO, not many do or ever will.

 

Wise words Wilf.....

 

Didn't we reply to the same type of thred about these mythical beasts once before ..... Only last time I think wrote the answer (though not as well)....

[Guest markbrick1]

27 in rough coated dog mate i'd say!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

whats diss a rough coat do to make a dog a allrounder Mmmmm i wonder

 

 

private joke mate, i wouldn't worry about it.............

a 27 inch dog called bruce and harddiggin would you want a dog that would always be outperformed on the night by a better dog?????????????are would you except the all rounder to excell at one thing and was just really good are good at all others,say a bull x fantastic at big stuff pre ban but could do hares and lamp rabbits very well are a saluki 3 out of 3 fen hares and kill fox lamp rabbit and track deer all very well but very well on the fens??????????? and longdogrunner bruce would be ideal for blackpool sands mate MP personally i cant see a 20 inch dog as a allrounder but i have been wrong before so no disrespect,mark

 

when i say jack off all trades master off non that is what i belive people class as an allrounder a dog which will go out run all quarry but only be average on every thing it runs. there are serten crosses bred for certain quarry for a reason fair enougth you could try to incorperate all the crosses creating a bitza lurcher but one breed will allways be dominent. i dont believe there is a such thing as an allrounder what type off cross do you think it would be one which can compete against a saluki greyhound on the fens or a whippet on the padocks a bullcross taking fox and larger quarry on a daily basis getting niped ontop off nips or a collie greyhound working with ferrets and nets i dont believe ther is a dog on this planet that could compete against the best off them breeds at there intended job. dont get me wrong there be plenty off dogs out there that will take all types off quarry but not on a dailly basis and not under all circumstances sorry if i offend anybody and shatter dreams but i obviously was miss understood when i first posted

mark

[pritch 335]

do you think there is a lot of specialist dogs that take their quarry on a daily basis, i doubt it. Pritch

Edited September 8, 2008 by pritch

[blacktabs 3]

Best way to get an allrounder is give up work leave yourself with no income except for what the dog can earn you work him both daily and nightly seven days a week for a couple of years and you may be suprised at what levell you can achieve my familys had allround types for years but they were made by living off the dogs and no other income apart from them

[brookie 1,193]

theres allrounders out there and good uns as well. a lot of people post on here and just from reading whats put up one can tell they have limited if any experience of working with top class lurchers or the skills required to expose a dog to this type of work and achieve an exceptable standard . but they are out there

[allgame 0]

an allrounder should catch all the usall game that running dogs are breed for in any circumstance that specialist dogs do but possibly with a lower catch rate on a few of the animals. i'd consider my whippet stag an allrounder roughly 20inches 20-22kg he's predominatly a fox dog but he's not 100% at anything but he's 90% at every thing. for example if i ran him on 5 hares he'd catch 2 or 3 if i ran him on 10 foxes he'd catch 7 or 8 if i ran him on 20 rabbits he'd catch 15 -16 and any bigger game he'd catch but not kill aswell so if he was mabey four inches biger he'd be a better dog so im ganna find a good bitch to put him over. the piont is id consider him an allrounder because he can do everything resonably succsesfull and the list is endless of the different ways to hunt but theres not one iv encountered where me or anyone else has found him overly lacking my old staghound/roodog was much the same except 28 inches and 30kg so would mabey catch one less rabbit but was so much better on the bigger stuff he made up for it, he was also what i would call a allrounder. my stag x grey was excellent on hares and as good as the others on anything else but wasnt a good fox dog becuse he lacked the turn he was aslo bad through the bush and had no nose on him i wouldnt consider hmi an allrounder id simply say he was a good hare and roo dog.

any way thats what i think a good allrounder is.

[J Darcy 5,871]

I would say i owned about as good as allrounder as i am ever likely to have.

He's dead now im sorry to say......

A full family wouldnt have been able to eat all the gear this dog brought down....