Crossing terriers, out crossing

[shinyspade 2]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

[swanseajack 227]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

what was the original question on this thread

[Guest gazza]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

[Bosun11 537]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

 

Yes.... But only to improve 'working type' not 'working ability'

 

Is that short enough!!!

[swanseajack 227]

THERE IS MANY REASONS TO CROSS BREED. ( ARE )

 

some folk dont have long term plans so they use the nearest working terrier to there bitch and produce crossbred workers.

That's fair enough

 

if we were all the same we would all have terriers that looked and worked the same

now that would be dull

 

 

 

I was just asking, bringing about discussion, on what made people choose the dogs they chose to cross...

[Guest gazza]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

 

Yes.... But only to improve 'working type' not 'working ability'

 

Is that short enough!!!

y not ability?surely if you x a jack with a lakie ur improving the ability of the jack

[swanseajack 227]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

 

Yes.... But only to improve 'working type' not 'working ability'

 

Is that short enough!!!

y not ability?surely if you x a jack with a lakie ur improving the ability of the jack

read shinyspades question above... if the ability of the jack needs improving, why are you breeding it, if you want the quality of the lakie get a lakie...

[shinyspade 2]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

what was the original question on this thread

 

 

I read most of the terrier articles on here and quite a lot of the time I see you lads using Border/Lakies, Pat/Lakies and even Russell/Pats.....

 

Sometimes I raise an eyebrow and think to myself why, why cross a 'good' pat with a Russell....

 

I'm not knocking anyone's decision to do this I'm just asking a question, why would you want to do it, what are the long term goals in producing such offspring ???

 

I seen quotes such as 'Border/Lakeland best terrier Ive ever owned' .......'kept a strain of border cross Russells for years'....

 

A lot of this has been touched on in various threads on here, but I'm curious as to why you have done it in the first place and what were your long term goals.....

 

I could ramble on for a bit and bore you til your back teeth fall out, but you can answer it for yourself... I expect the usual answer of worker to worker as a first off, yet interested in where it goes....

 

hopefully might turn into a decent thread...

 

Yours

 

SJ

 

[Bosun11 537]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

 

Yes.... But only to improve 'working type' not 'working ability'

 

Is that short enough!!!

y not ability?surely if you x a jack with a lakie ur improving the ability of the jack

 

Ehhhh????

 

Lets try and simplify things, without going on at this late hour....

 

Some people would, and do, prefer certain breeds over others for their work, and the ability of each breed may be different and suited to the type of graft they do..... This does not make any one breed inferior to another!!

It's just down to preference......

 

Poor workers are found in all......!!!!

[shinyspade 2]

i just thought you had forgot

[swanseajack 227]

i just thought you had forgot

I had got a bit side tracked...

 

hope we get some more good answers tommorow..

 

 

and gazza gets banned for text talk...

[shinyspade 2]

night all

[Guest Chip]

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Edited September 8, 2008 by Chip

[rob.i 26]

Some to be different some for colour or the obvious money or lack of my Uncle RIP bred russells in the late 30s early forties as my owd fella put when no onehad nowt black dogs did exist and when the oppurtunity arose if it was a good un they were crossbred and if a red dog was a good un same again

Edited September 8, 2008 by rob.i

[shinyspade 2]

here's one for you if the terriers you keep need to be outcrossed to another breed for (improvement) where they good enough to breed off in the first place?? why not get a terrier from the lines that have what you seek already in them

sometimes you have to x breed to get what your looking for.

 

Yes.... But only to improve 'working type' not 'working ability'

 

Is that short enough!!!

y not ability?surely if you x a jack with a lakie ur improving the ability of the jack

 

it depends entirely on what you need from your terrier gazza. i have seen some piss poor lakies and some good russells. so why would putting lakie into a good line of russells improve on whats already there. some pureist russell lads are trying to keep stains clear of lakie/bull/ etc as they feel it is ruining the working STYLE. of the workingrussell.