BARF

[TIMMAY 6]

Right got a new pup, and i'm reading through Give your dog a Bone by dr billinghurst. Defo want to get her and my old dog on BARF asap, but i have a question about the veg part of the diet. I know it probably seems lazy, well i suppose it is really, but would it be OK to by veg in bulk, get it mashed, and freeze it? I know fresh is normally best, but do you barfers know if there's any major drawbacks to freezing veg?

[skycat 6,173]

No problem: freezing is the best way to preserve vitamins etc. Though just don't leave too long in the freezer, don't quote me on this but I think veg etc should be used within 3 months.

[TIMMAY 6]

Cheers skycat, that's what i figured, did an experiment on veg when i was in school on vit c, and different storage methods, and frozen beat 'fresh'! Just wondered if anything else was damaged by the freezing process.

[socks 32,253]

freezing kills off the vit E in veg .... i make my meat and veg up in bulk and freeze it

[marky r 25]

what types of veg should you use in a barf diet? is there certain types that are bad for the dog?

[socks 32,253]

i will put up a list of good veggies and fruite later when i get in mate ..................

[socks 32,253]

i will put up a list of good veggies and fruite later when i get in mate ..................

[marky r 25]

alriight thanks socks would be a big help

[socks 32,253]

here you go mate ...........

 

Good Veggies' & Fruits to Feed

 

(Foods you can feel good about feeding. Add lots of green leafy vegetables)

Courgettes-

Romaine (COS) Lettuce - High nutritional value

Ice Berg Lettuce - has no nutritional value but is OK to feed. You can use

as a filler.

Tomatoes (avoid the leaves and stems) -

Carrots - These are high in sugars so be careful

Celery - Not much nutritional value but is a good diuretic.

Bok Choy -

Parsley-

Oranges -

Apples (not the seeds) -

peas-

Bananas -

Alfalpha Sprouts -

Bell Peppers (Capsicum) - red, green and yellow

Fresh Pumpkin (not the canned pie filling) -

Silver Beat -

Beet Root -

Kale -

Cilantro -

Mustard Greens -

Dandelions -

Marrow-

Yams -

Sweet Potatoes -

Asparagus -

Jicama (remove skin) -

Parsnip -

Turnips -

Sprouts -

 

Caution Veggies' & Fruits

(Foods you can feed but with cautions)

 

Garlic - fed in small amounts is very beneficial for your dog. It is

considered natures antibiotic. However, to much can cause anemia and upset

stomach. So when making your veggie mix, use 1-3 cloves but no more.

Grapes / raisins- (in high amounts) Dogs exhibit gastrointestinal problems,

including vomiting and diarrhea and then signs of kidney failure with an

onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the

grapes or raisins.

Eggplant - OK to feed the fruit but avoid any other parts. They can cause

upset stomach, drooling, lethargy, heart failure

Avocados (& leaves) - Stay away from the leaves. The fruit part is OK to

feed in small amounts.

Spinach, Swiss Chard, and Rhubarb - OK in small amounts. While these are not

toxic, they are high in oxalic acid, a compound that interferes with calcium

absorption, so don't feed these very often.

Cabbage/Broccoli/Cauliflower - OK to feed in small amounts but may cause

gas. If fed frequently and in large amounts these will depress the thyroid.

Potatoes –

 

Cautions: If your dog is diabetic or has arthritis and has/had cancer then

you may want to stay away from underground veggies because they convert to

starch/sugar which aggravates arthritis. Cancer cells also thrive on sugars.

 

Bad Veggies' & Fruits

 

(Foods to be avoided all together)

Onions & (onion powder) - upset stomach, and can cause Heinz body anemia.

[TIMMAY 6]

Ok this is the diet i am going to strive to give my new pup,

 

60% RMB

 

10% OFFAL

 

30% VEG

made up of mainly greens like spring/mustard greens, with mushrooms, baked beans, banana, carrot, sweetcorn, sweet potatoe, pumpkin, squash, peanuts, brocoli, sprouts.

 

also some sardines, raw egg, butter, natural yoghurt, and a supplement like keepers mix added occaisionally.

 

does this sound about right?

 

also should i give the pup the same amount that i expect her to eat as an adult per day? [split into smaller meals of course]

 

sorry to be a pain with so many questions!

[marky r 25]

thanks socks ill save that information if you dont mind itll come in handy. do you liquidise it i know my dogs wont eat some of that stuff if they know what it is.

[wonkylegs 4]

.

Edited September 7, 2008 by wonkylegs

[wonkylegs 4]

HI MATE SOME MUSHROOMS ARE TOXIC TO DOGS http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dtoxin.html#Mushroom%20toxicity

Edited September 7, 2008 by wonkylegs

[TIMMAY 6]

I think that site is refering to some species, not all species of mushroom, i guess like with humans and mushrooms? but i'll bear it in mind and do my research on mushrooms now! the book i'm reading says that they are a good source of omega 3 oils for dogs.

[dogman89 0]

dp dpgs need veg?? my dog has just eating raw meat and bone for about 1year and hasnt had any veg in about 5months except for the odd bruised apple but even they are rare for her. i do feed her milk and raw egg once a week. wat do youse think casue i dont notice anything wrong with my dog, infact she seems better just feed on meat and no veg?