what is a proper foxing dog?

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i run doubled up with my dogs most of the time for catch rate as 2 always catch more than 1 fact.......

yet all dogs are well versed in dealing with things thereselves as a dog must be able to handle things on there own. i run the single on other quarry too.

anyone who has seen my dogs run will vouch for them and there abilitys but il always double up as we go for numbers thats just how it is,,you certainly couldnt say myn cant be called fox dogs though as ive explained previous...

 

and i bet there is a hell of a lot of lads running doubled up dogs as every team i drop on on a night runs them the same as we do or should i say we did before tha ban........

 

 

deff

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i prefer a dog that gets a throat hold as he will take less damage and less damage means more work for him.Iv seen lurchers grab a fox by the chest and hammer em off the ground but they take a bit of stick in the process .My own lurcher always takes a throat hold which suits me as iv only ine lurcher at the moment so he doesnt get broke up very often

 

 

deffinately mate...dogs do go for the chest as well but the result is the same they try and stop the chest expanding and try to suffocate it in the process.....just a stupid statement to make about inferior dogs imo

[stej 0]

if there killing foxes there killing foxes theres nothing else to it

 

no thats not right. they should kill quick and preferably by targeting the chest, they should do this regardless of where the fox has hold of them a dog that goes for the throat and kills by suffocation is inferior in my opinion.

 

Jeeeez I cant believe that statement a dog that kills by suffocation is inferior....what planet do you live on. So how does your dog kill then..wait dont tell me It'll either be the ol grab em by the neck quick shake and bobs yer uncle!...or does it go all tazmanian devil on the foxes ass......A dog that has its prey by the throat will not take damage but I spose that dont matter to you now does it. There's deff a lot of pish being spouted in here...Stay on the medication mate.

 

my dog hits them in the chest and opens them up and busts there heart and lungs, as all decent dogs do. they may get bit thats what they are there for a dog that kills by suffocation is protectiing itself and these dogs are the dogs that drop foxes when they can not get a throat hold. my dog and his parents hit and hold no messing and wirk up for a quick chest kill. alot of boys over here will not keep a dog that kills by the throat. now im not saying that dogs like this are no use but they would not satisfy me or any of the top lurchermen i know. why are you getting personal am i not entitled to my opinion.

i have seen my dog grab the fox any way it can not by the throat or chest and it just keeps banging it up and down off the ground taking some bites on the way but it makes it"s way up to the chest or the throat and the fox does not get away there is no bull through my dog it"s actually a coursing dog whippet greyhound saluki greyhound i"m happy with him because once he"s got them he"ll take the pain but always come out on top and that"s him running single handed and i have a pup now to bring on 15 month old 3/4 grey 1/4 collie and i just hope he takes after his sire as his sire did all quarry solo day and night and undisputed can vouch for my old sire as he bred him so i"ll have to start doubling him up with the dog i"m running just now if he wants to make the grade because they have to learn to course it take it and give it

i started my dog off with another dog but he took over and done it himself. i have owned a dog before that killed more by the throat he was a good all rounder but not as good a fox dog as the dog i have now. perhaps it takes a dog with bull in it to kill this way efficently. i would still have admiration for a dog that can kill foxes single handed anyway and take the stick i just think a dog that kills single handed in the chest is the best.

a good fox dog will kill a fox from where ever it hits it! chest throught legs etc.

if it takes stick it will just keep on going till its finished with,

[stej 0]

A few words spierpig said there about a dog having more brains by goin for the neck,

well to me thats absolutly spot on because my older dog (storm)does it everytime.

90% of the time i run over to him its by the neck he has a bit of collie in him so i take it the brains come

from there spot on there mate

[anythingoes 28]

F**k me boys were is this post going ?? A fox dog is a fox dog regardless of how it kills its quarry !!! I have had a few dogs and seen a real good few work and yet after 15yrs of working lurchers i have yet 2 see 2 the same ,,the dog works with what its got !!!!!!!!!!! Dosent matter how the dog kills just as long as the jobs done!!! two tradesmen are doing a job , same job but they do it diffrent ,,,,, go about it in diffrent ways But the end results the same so whos the better tradesman???????????????????????? After 15yrs working lurchers i think i will have to get a few pointers becose there sounds like theres sum mighty fine dogs out there either through breeding or entering but either way a must be doing sumthing far far far wrong !!!!

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Spiderpig is the area you hunt just overrun with charlie??? or do you drive miles to different parts of the country to where theres more sport?

Iv never seen more than 6 fox in one night where i hunt personally. And i could only manage a run on 2.

I doubt i could afford the diesel bill if i wanted to lamp 6 in one night. I'd sure like to find these fox ridden locations.

Dont suppose you could enlighten me could you mucker????

[anythingoes 28]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/s...ke/Image125.jpg

 

one of my current dogs who is coming up to his 3rd season therfore coming up 4years old

 

he is a bloody good dog yet all i would say is i trust him.. i wouldnt shout from the roof tops that he is the best thing since sliced bread,,,he suits me/i like him/and i trust the dogs work.

 

 

he is not run on foxes this time of year as they are too easy..

 

all im gona say now is the most important thing a good dog needs is a good owner!!!

an everyone should agree with that......

nice dog there spider !!! Did the dog run into bramble bushes ? Bulls dont get bit and kill in a minute lol lol

[stej 0]

Spiderpig is the area you hunt just overrun with charlie??? or do you drive miles to different parts of the country to where theres more sport?

Iv never seen more than 6 fox in one night where i hunt personally. And i could only manage a run on 2.

I doubt i could afford the diesel bill if i wanted to lamp 6 in one night. I'd sure like to find these fox ridden locations.

Dont suppose you could enlighten me could you mucker????

around cumbria is quit good for em pal?

[Guest ooty]

ok one more

 

he is shit as got bit a few times if only he could rip em up in 60 seconds everytime just like the top lurchermen dogs do,i will never be able to aspire to the massive levels of these very people and one day il stop dreaming that i have a good dog and make do with my shitters.... ah well.........

never mind

 

instead of dogs of the same line as myn been sold for £1500.00 quid unentered as they have been by others then if they where top lines i could charge more and retire,buy a helicopter and a big landing net and fly around swooping up foxes to take home and feed to my teradactill who lives in a cage with my duck billed platapus..

 

oh i wish so much that i could be a top lurcherman aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

just think of the fame id even be able to have a avatar of all my trophys ect ect

but il never go to a show as my dogs are just not good enough to be quite honest..

from now on im gona stay at home and pretend i know what im doing and that i know some top lurchermen then im just gona talk bollox on what ive never seen and only been told,read,or made up.....

 

ah men!!!!

[/quote ] arnt some people so fell of shit!! what a stupid f*****g question in the 1st place!!my answer would have to be a dog that does fox?? carry on :drag:

[anythingoes 28]

ok one more

 

he is shit as got bit a few times if only he could rip em up in 60 seconds everytime just like the top lurchermen dogs do,i will never be able to aspire to the massive levels of these very people and one day il stop dreaming that i have a good dog and make do with my shitters.... ah well.........

never mind

 

instead of dogs of the same line as myn been sold for £1500.00 quid unentered as they have been by others then if they where top lines i could charge more and retire,buy a helicopter and a big landing net and fly around swooping up foxes to take home and feed to my teradactill who lives in a cage with my duck billed platapus..

 

oh i wish so much that i could be a top lurcherman aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

just think of the fame id even be able to have a avatar of all my trophys ect ect

but il never go to a show as my dogs are just not good enough to be quite honest..

from now on im gona stay at home and pretend i know what im doing and that i know some top lurchermen then im just gona talk bollox on what ive never seen and only been told,read,or made up.....

 

ah men!!!!

 

good for you thats nice.

see at the end off the day our night if your dog kill the fox in were is the problem in

all this ?

[undisputed 1,664]

if there killing foxes there killing foxes theres nothing else to it

 

no thats not right. they should kill quick and preferably by targeting the chest, they should do this regardless of where the fox has hold of them a dog that goes for the throat and kills by suffocation is inferior in my opinion.

 

Jeeeez I cant believe that statement a dog that kills by suffocation is inferior....what planet do you live on. So how does your dog kill then..wait dont tell me It'll either be the ol grab em by the neck quick shake and bobs yer uncle!...or does it go all tazmanian devil on the foxes ass......A dog that has its prey by the throat will not take damage but I spose that dont matter to you now does it. There's deff a lot of pish being spouted in here...Stay on the medication mate.

 

my dog hits them in the chest and opens them up and busts there heart and lungs, as all decent dogs do. they may get bit thats what they are there for a dog that kills by suffocation is protectiing itself and these dogs are the dogs that drop foxes when they can not get a throat hold. my dog and his parents hit and hold no messing and wirk up for a quick chest kill. alot of boys over here will not keep a dog that kills by the throat. now im not saying that dogs like this are no use but they would not satisfy me or any of the top lurchermen i know. why are you getting personal am i not entitled to my opinion.

 

If I'm getting personal its because statements like the one you made are just idiotic to be frank....you talk about your dogs making a quick kill with a chest hold....sorry mate that just doesn't make sense...yeah they may kill the fox but its far from quick....then you make reference to dogs being inferior if they go for the throat...wrong again. It sounds to me like you enjoy the carnage and the bloodier the better...The other thing I dont understand is how your dog is relatively unmarked if it goes for the chest all the time....then again maybe I've got it all wrong and like spiderpig says I can only aspire to be a top lurcherman like yourself

[anythingoes 28]

if there killing foxes there killing foxes theres nothing else to it

 

no thats not right. they should kill quick and preferably by targeting the chest, they should do this regardless of where the fox has hold of them a dog that goes for the throat and kills by suffocation is inferior in my opinion.

 

Jeeeez I cant believe that statement a dog that kills by suffocation is inferior....what planet do you live on. So how does your dog kill then..wait dont tell me It'll either be the ol grab em by the neck quick shake and bobs yer uncle!...or does it go all tazmanian devil on the foxes ass......A dog that has its prey by the throat will not take damage but I spose that dont matter to you now does it. There's deff a lot of pish being spouted in here...Stay on the medication mate.

 

my dog hits them in the chest and opens them up and busts there heart and lungs, as all decent dogs do. they may get bit thats what they are there for a dog that kills by suffocation is protectiing itself and these dogs are the dogs that drop foxes when they can not get a throat hold. my dog and his parents hit and hold no messing and wirk up for a quick chest kill. alot of boys over here will not keep a dog that kills by the throat. now im not saying that dogs like this are no use but they would not satisfy me or any of the top lurchermen i know. why are you getting personal am i not entitled to my opinion.

 

If I'm getting personal its because statements like the one you made are just idiotic to be frank....you talk about your dogs making a quick kill with a chest hold....sorry mate that just doesn't make sense...yeah they may kill the fox but its far from quick....then you make reference to dogs being inferior if they go for the throat...wrong again. It sounds to me like you enjoy the carnage and the bloodier the better...The other thing I dont understand is how your dog is relatively unmarked if it goes for the chest all the time....then again maybe I've got it all wrong and like spiderpig says I can only aspire to be a top lurcherman like yourself

[undisputed 1,664]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/s...ke/Image125.jpg

 

one of my current dogs who is coming up to his 3rd season therfore coming up 4years old

 

he is a bloody good dog yet all i would say is i trust him.. i wouldnt shout from the roof tops that he is the best thing since sliced bread,,,he suits me/i like him/and i trust the dogs work.

 

 

he is not run on foxes this time of year as they are too easy..

 

all im gona say now is the most important thing a good dog needs is a good owner!!!

an everyone should agree with that......

nice dog there spider !!! Did the dog run into bramble bushes ? Bulls dont get bit and kill in a minute lol lol

 

I've commented on this pic before spiderpig looks the part he does...if only he had learned to go for the chest he'd be a far prettier dog mate

[Guest joe ox]

First and foremost the dog has to be fast plus clever enough to course and catch the fox, has to jump like a roe any fence I tell it to before even seeing the quarry on the understaning I wouldnt tell it to if there was nothing to run on the other side. Then the dog has to run down the beam no question as we all should know sometimes raynard is not even visible until he turns to have a look back and his eyes reflect the light of the beam.

Scars mean absolutely feck all they just mean the dog takes a lot of punishment! sometimes without any need, meaning it has not got the knack to kill only fight with them without the brains or ability to finish the job its meant to!

[anythingoes 28]

First and foremost the dog has to be fast plus clever enough to course and catch the fox, has to jump like a roe any fence I tell it to before even seeing the quarry on the understaning I wouldnt tell it to if there was nothing to run on the other side. Then the dog has to run down the beam no question as we all should know sometimes raynard is not even visible until he turns to have a look back and his eyes reflect the light of the beam.

Scars mean absolutely feck all they just mean the dog takes a lot of punishment! sometimes without any need, meaning it has not got the knack to kill only fight with them without the brains or ability to finish the job its meant to!

that doesnt make sense to me mate if its a fox dog it kills the fox and as u say scars mean feck all then you say getting punishment means the dog doesnt have the ability to kill a fox just fight with it so ,, who kills the fox ?