Guest SJM Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Good advice from Skycat there Pups have a very brief window of opportunity to learn confidence in the world around them, and by the time a puppy reaches 4/5 months it really needs to have experienced lots of different things/people/places. If its only ever been in a straw filled pen with no toys or stimulation, and few people to handle it, then what coping mechanisms will it really have learned to enable it to deal with the world outside of that pen? You also have to look at it logically, that puppy is only available because nobody else wanted it so perhaps you should do yourself and the puppy a favour and look elsewhere. Never buy a puppy because you feel sorry for it, you will only regret it in the long run. As Skycat says look on here, find a pup thats been loved, picked up and cuddled by kids, allowed to play with toys, explore the breeders home and garden and most importantly of all, bred from cherished hard working parents Quote Link to post
bird 9,858 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Villebones: please listen to everyone on here: we took pity on a 5 month old Hancock pup he had there after we were daft enough to drop by. That pup had never been out of the pen it had been reared in: it took the poor thing 2 weeks before it learned that it was allowed to walk across the threshold of the run we had it in when we got it home: it was terrified of everything and anything. Months down the line, and the dog would now be about 14 months old and he was still as phobic about anything new, virtually p*ssiing himself at each new situation. There is no happy ending to this story as we eventually decided that it was kindest to have the dog put down: he was only OK at home. Yes, some pups are so naturally sound and bombproof that they can overcome the worst type or rearing and lack of socialisation, but the majority do not. If you really want a Hancock dog then you need to get it away from his place by 8 weeks old at the VERY LATEST: then you can give it the vital socialisation it needs. Even better, buy one from someone on here who has bred for themselves and reared them with the kids and running about in the back garden. Probably won't cost you anywhere near as much either. There are a couple of cracking looking litters on here at the moment: why not get in touch by pm and have a chat with the breeders? Good luck. SPOT ON BIRD Quote Link to post
Paul in North Lincs 15 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 :victory:what has attracted you to the handcock dogs young man?............. Im guessing you are new to the sport, and this will be your first dog. (forgive me if Im wrong) If - in your youth, you have been drawn to the handcock because he's a 'high street name' like nike and rebok...then may I asure you that there a plenty of decent dogs to had out there...and they need no cost the earth........... If money is tight.......keep your eyes on the net and classified ads - it not uncommon to find a litter a decent lurchers for 60 / 70 quid. hope you find what you after... Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,524 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 whilst puppy prices are rising for other dogs ,lurcher prices seem to have dropped and with the holiday season your find the odd last few pups in a litter reduced,theres been some cracking pups on here for £100 + if your gonna have a dog for a good few years take your time ,or as my grandad said buy in haste ,regret in leisure. Quote Link to post
colliecross 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 How much does Hancock Charge for his lurchers?I have seen a very nice 4 month old lurcher on his page. And have also seen another lurcher i like elsewhere. I dont mind which dog i get just think it would be a better idea to go for the cheaper one. Any one Help. DH charges £200, which one you interested in? seen a few on his page born Aprill this year.... Oh ok thanks I was intrested in this 1: Rough coated fawn dog pup 3/4 collie 1/4 greyhound DOB 20/04/08 Nice 3 month old pup....it wont be house trained, broken into a lead and you'd be taking on alot. I'd go take a visit yourself, can't be too far from where you live, you make your own mind up if it's work waiting to pick a 10 week old pup up. Personally I would always pick from a litter. Good luck mate Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Villebones: I just wanted to say, not being funny or anything, but if this is going to be your first lurcher, then why not take someone experienced along with you when you go to see a litter. That way you have someone with you to assess the different pups, someone who won't be influenced by how sweet, appealing or whatever a pup looks like. I know that we're all attracted to something or someone primarily by what it looks like, but you need to go beyond the physical appearance and look at character, temperament and responsiveness when your'e getting a dog. Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 If I was you villebones I would be looking for another cross, I don't think they are the best lurcher to start with. They can be very sensative and if you make mistakes when training them they are not very forgiving, i think they can be one of the easiest dogs to ruin. If i was you i would get a whippet or a beddy cross grey or whippet. Saying that in patient, experienced hands collie crosses are the best. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Personally, IMHO, anyone who buys a Hancock is helping the continuation of Puppy Farming. Theres plenty of litters born from working dogs. Have a look at these instead maybe. Good luck.....JD Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 jus get the dog appropriate for yourself.if your worried regards the price id be looking at if you can really afford to take one on.as when you have bought it the money dosnt stop their good luck Quote Link to post
slickdicko 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 How much does Hancock Charge for his lurchers?I have seen a very nice 4 month old lurcher on his page. And have also seen another lurcher i like elsewhere. I dont mind which dog i get just think it would be a better idea to go for the cheaper one. Any one Help. encorage the guy to breed lurchers which havent worked a day in there life there like battery farmed dogs! Quote Link to post
slickdicko 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Personally, IMHO, anyone who buys a Hancock is helping the continuation of Puppy Farming.Theres plenty of litters born from working dogs. Have a look at these instead maybe. Good luck.....JD :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: well said pal my point exactly!!!! Quote Link to post
villebones 4 Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I have had dogs before but not worked them. i have trained my dogs and havent choosen for there looks. I currently have a small rescue terrier x who takes rabbits on her walks. Quote Link to post
lamping-lad 160 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 how do you get on hancocks web page? seems to be gone Quote Link to post
Caravan Monster 323 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Villebones: please listen to everyone on here: we took pity on a 5 month old Hancock pup I did the same with a seven month old one. Mine had a slightly happier ending in that I did manage to instill some confidence and basic training into the dog. However, he never could cope with busy situations all that well, and there was little or no natural hunting instinct in him. He also had an inherited problem with his back, that meant that he couldn' t really be worked much. After over three years of trying, I managed to find him a pet home with some kind people who also looked after some lurchers that had a far worse start in life than he. The lurcher rescue that helped me find this home commented that they did get a noticable number of dogs that had left Hancock' s kennels at over a couple of months old, being rehomed because of difficulties. My advice would be to take your time finding a pup- with luck, your lurcher could be with you for 15+ years- as you can see from this thread, plenty of people on here will take the time to give you their advice. Quote Link to post
lamping-lad 160 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Theres a link here hancocks page He did have another site, but i think its being updated CHHERS MATE Quote Link to post
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