.17 Remington Fireball

[pisces 0]

Hi,

 

Has anyone got any experience/comments on the new .17 Rem Fireball ?

[SportingShooter 0]

I know it's a necked down version of the "Old" .221 Rem Fireball, which was a pistol cartridge.

 

Having read a few reviews, mainly from American Magazines, this little round seems to solve the problems of the .17 Rem Mag, which burns barrels quite fast amongst other things.

 

This round apparently has a longer barrel life, but is slightly slower, but then again will apparently have very much the same effect as the .17 R M.

 

Are you thinking of buying one? Ammunition will be difficult to get hold of as the round is so new and at the moment not in wide use anywhere, not even in the US as yet.

 

Regards

SS

[SNAP SHOT 194]

i believe that the .17 fireball rounds are expensive in the states, but the can be sid for all new rounds, yes it indeed is a fast little round, but will still be sore on barrel life, not much good on vermin largr than fox, and the bullet will change direction or explode if it contacts grass, it also has major trouble with wind at range.....

[pisces 0]

I believe that the .17 Rem barrel life can be as short as 1,000 rounds; a potentially expensive problem and the main reason why I've never bought a .17 Rem.

 

But, I'm was hoping for better with a Fireball with lower MV and powder charge.

 

I don't do rapid fire range work, just walkabout hunting, so the barrel shouldn't ever get real hot.

[jamie g 17]

I believe that the .17 Rem barrel life can be as short as 1,000 rounds; a potentially expensive problem and the main reason why I've never bought a .17 Rem.

 

But, I'm was hoping for better with a Fireball with lower MV and powder charge.

 

I don't do rapid fire range work, just walkabout hunting, so the barrel shouldn't ever get real hot.

 

 

if you want it then go for it mate. as you said it will only be used for vermin control so your have loads of barrel life out of it.

 

[ well inless you have loads of vermin to deal with ]

[pisces 0]

if you want it then go for it mate. as you said it will only be used for vermin control so your have loads of barrel life out of it. [ well unless you have loads of vermin to deal with ]

 

Jamie, I'm thinking of the .17 Rem Fireball, Remington Seven in camo with a 20" barrel and I was hoping that the RFB would replace the .17HMR but if I'm only going to get 2,000 rounds through it before it needs rebarreling then it will have to be rebarreled every year !

 

Not what I was hoping for !

[dicehorn 38]

if you want it then go for it mate. as you said it will only be used for vermin control so your have loads of barrel life out of it. [ well unless you have loads of vermin to deal with ]

 

Jamie, I'm thinking of the .17 Rem Fireball, Remington Seven in camo with a 20" barrel and I was hoping that the RFB would replace the .17HMR but if I'm only going to get 2,000 rounds through it before it needs rebarreling then it will have to be rebarreled every year !

 

Not what I was hoping for !

 

I have a Tikka M595 in 17 Rem it has had well over 1000 rounds through it and still groups sub .25 at 100 yds. A lot of 17 rem users are putting moly bullets through them which increases barrel life. According to the American forums the new 17 rem barrels have now overcome the barrel burning issues.

 

Having said all that, if you plan to put 2000 rounds through a rifle a year then IMO it would be worth considering something like a .222 if you want durability in a barrel life. But 2000 shots at 'vermin' is a lot of centre fire cartridges - if its mainly rabbit then the humble .22 rim fire is the obvious answer - accurate to yds and above all - very cheap to run

 

Peter

[SportingShooter 0]

Pisces, Weren't you going to have a .204 Ruger?

 

Have you changed your mind?

 

And there is quite a massive difference between the .17 HMR and a .17 Centrefire, as you know, so it would be like asking for two centrefires for the same job.

[pisces 0]

Pisces, Weren't you going to have a .204 Ruger?

 

Have you changed your mind?

 

And there is quite a massive difference between the .17 HMR and a .17 Centrefire, as you know, so it would be like asking for two centrefires for the same job.

 

I have the OK from my FEO for .204 Ruger or .17 Rem Fireball. Just a week ago I was sure it was going to be a .204 Ruger but couldn't find one with a factory 20" barrel (the Sako 85 is not imported into UK). So, I'm considering a .17 Rem Fireball, the 20" Remington Seven Predator . Unfortunately the general consensus is that I'll not get many rounds through it before rebarreling.

[SportingShooter 0]

Is fox going be your only quarry?

 

If so, I can't see the .17 Remington being a problem.

 

So what have you actually applied for?

 

And No one imports the Sako 85 into the UK in .204 Ruger?

[SNAP SHOT 194]

Sako in .204 won't be available in the uk or ireland untill oct 2008.......just a bit of a info i got don't know how reliable it is but watch this space.......

[jamie g 17]

Pisces i cant see how it will wear the barrel out after just a 1000 or 2000 rounds ? yes its a very quick cal

but the 22/250 is two and that lasts long if you look after it.

 

dont forget the 17 rem doesnt use that much powder compared to the 22/250.

 

if i where you mate i would still get the 204 if you want the long range and little recoil so you can see the hits.

 

the other thing is with the fast cal rifles like 17 rem and 204 and 22/250 is its important to keep the barrel longer i think

as the fps will be lost if the barrel is to short. well it mite not seam like much that is the point of having the exta fps i think. otherwise you mite as well get 222 or 223.

 

dont get me wrong there still both cracking cals. and i would have 223 anyday its cheap,accurate,and will last years and years

[jamie g 17]

couple of 204's on the shooting forum mate a savage and a howa. i bet the savage is a tack driver go for it i would

[Jonty 0]

Sako in .204 won't be available in the uk or ireland untill oct 2008.......just a bit of a info i got don't know how reliable it is but watch this space.......

 

 

I'd believe it. Any sign of a Varmint 85 available yet in Ireland?