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All is not lost if you read the law coursing is not strictly banned if you want to eat the quarry and are not doing it for sport!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to shoot the quarry,but it doesn't say which calibre i.e. what about a .177 air gun eh!

Just some things to think about?

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IF YOU DO WHAT I DO, AND THATS TRY TO DO YOUR WALK ABOUTS THE LAST HALF HOUR AT NIGHT , OR FIRST HALF HOUR IN THE MORNING ,THE ODDS ARE YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO DO WHATS ALWAYS BEEN THE NATURAL WAY , I KNOW IT WILL BE HARDER ESPECIALLY ON THE FENS ,WITH THEM BEING MORE OPEN, BUT EVEN THEN THE NOSEY BXSTARDS WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF, LETS SAY IF BY ACCIDENT MY DOG CHASES A HARE, WELL THE ANTI SCUM AND POLICE WILL HAVE TO PROVE THAT MY DOG CHASED A HARE, YOU KNOW THE HARE MIGHT HAVE RUN ACROSS THE PATH OFF MY DOG, AND IF YOU ARE SPOTTED ,YOU COULD ALWAYS SAY ,YOU TRIED TO STOP YOUR DOG, OR EVEN THEN YOU COULD SAY YOUR DOG ONLY CHASED A RABBIT, I MEAN THEY MUST HAVE SOME SORT OFF PROOF, VIDIO OR CARCASS, OR MAYBE YOU CAN CALL YOUR DOG OFF BEFORE THE CHASE STARTS GETTING OFF ,OR EASIER STILL, IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT YOUR SURROUNDINGS, STOP YOUR DOG FROM THE BEGINNING, NOW I KNOW I WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT THE 4 LADS , WHO GOT CAUGHT COURSING ,BUT NOW ITS COME ABOUT , THAT IT WAS 4 AM IN THE MORNING, AND THEY HAD 1 HARE ON THIER PERSON, IF THATS TRUE, WELL IF IT IS , THEN THEY MUST HAVE BEEN LAMPING HARES ,TO ME THATS NOT SPORTING ,OR PERHAPS THERE WAS YOU COULD SAY A GANG AWALK ABOUT WITH DOGS , AND THAT IN MY BOOK IS NOT VERY CLEVER , IN THE CRISIS WE ARE IN NOW ,TO BE HONEST I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO THINK, BUT IT MAY BE LOOKED AT A BIT MORE CRITICAL TO THE POWERS THAT BE ,AND WORSE STILL TO THE NOT TO SURE PUBLIC ,WHO STILL HAVE NOT MADE THIER MINDS UP , ANYWAY I,LL STILL PLOD ON , HEAD DOWN TO THE WIND, ME AND MY DOG.

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Its sucks sooo much that it is outside the law...no more convenience and nice meetings on permission I imagine.

 

but here (NL) it is illegal since 1924 and it still happens...there is even talk about renewed popularity of "longdogs" among police and "gamekeepers" if you check their bulletins.

 

Hunting is illegal since long and shooting (more or less) since the new laws of 2001 or so...foxes and deer and hare abound nowadays.

 

Reports of dogs and cars being taken away are scarce. Just be wary (as the hare) and very carefully plan things.

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  • 4 years later...

2009 update : in nearly every thread that comes up about repeal , the fear is that fox hunting will be allowed and hare coursing will remain outlawed . . .because the "toffs" will be catered for , and the "common man" will not. Reading through the archives , i find some of these thoughts interesting and i am in agreement . As i have said before the biggest single problem in the lurcher world is cowboys.

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WELL, i,ve just got in from a early walk about with the pup, i,ve read and seen the news about 4 lads being picked up for running hares, now out off all the hunts that went off that day, who gets lifted these 4 lads, now i,ve been told over the last few weeks , by men who run thier dogs on the fens and such ,that there will be ways to get around this new law, NO CHANCE, its over with , unless the conservatives get in and reverse it , its finished, you see the public enemy now is joe public, people who have spent most off thier lives , taking no notice off the hares being run by dogs ,are going to be burning thier mobiles and public phones out by the hundreds to shop you, you see thats one thing with human nature ,every one wants to be a hero, now the law will make this so, and it also proves what i,ve been thinking ,the police are going to be a lot keener to get the coursing guys,more so than the hunts, because its easier , i believe in my heart that when the saluki x greyhound came into the fore on hares ,and worst still the gangs that followed after, fxcked the sport up for good , you see it was on the tele a lot in the news papers a lot ,it was not just ythe chasing off the hare it was the damage to property ,and threats to farmers and such that brought it to the public notice ,not the guy who for generations ,who went out to get the hare for the pot , not the guy who owned a lurcher that in most chases never had a chance with the hare on its own terms ,not the guy who kept himself to hisself , not the guy who had to hunt the hare by craft , not the guy who hunted with the respect off his quarry ,but i,m afraid the men who turned this unnoticed one for the pot game ,into a money or gambling sport ,thats when to me all respect as the hare as a sporting quarry went to the ashes off reasoning, i,m sorry its all ended like this , and i,m sorry for the lads being made the scrapegoats ,but i could see this coming years ago, i wrote to the EDRD, about my fears and what the outcome would be, but they decided not to print it, i still believe in live and let live ,but also i believe if the hare had been hunted in the secretive manner i knew, we still might have got away with it ,by only being fined for having no game licence , perhaps most will not agree with me ,but there,s one more thing to say ,the saluki xgreyhound days are numbered, this breed to me as never been a lurcher ,just a longdog, and a specealist at that, i hope i,m wrong and will be proven wrong, but this is the truth how i see it, and i would sooner speak what i believe than be a creeping liar ,so we could all be buddies together, best the devil you know ,than the devil you do,nt.

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yeah the job is knackered ,i suppose i can look back over 35 years or so and say ...well i had some great days out ,coursing hares ,the risk is geeting to high now ,never mind the fines most would stand that ,its the strong chance that your dog will go aswell now that would upset me!not sure that as previously mentioned it will be the decline of the longdog my view is the folk that have and do keep running dogs always will ,i think it will just go the way of many other countries where there is a ban ,loth to say it but ...lure coursing will attract some :whistling:

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Learner, you are a credit to the sport, yes we all know the end is coming, but as IanB said, there is people out there, whose lines of lurcher, will not end, and they will keep doing so to keep their lines strong, it is always the minority that spoil it for the majority, the people that do it purely for the cash, are indeed the people who ruined it for us good style, they couldn't keep themselves to themselves and done it purely as Learner said

not the guy who for generations ,who went out to get the hare for the pot , not the guy who owned a lurcher that in most chases never had a chance with the hare on its own terms ,not the guy who kept himself to hisself , not the guy who had to hunt the hare by craft , not the guy who hunted with the respect off his quarry ,but i,m afraid the men who turned this unnoticed one for the pot game ,into a money or gambling sport ,thats when to me all respect as the hare as a sporting quarry went to the ashes off reasoning

I do believe in my own mind, that hopefully one day, all hope will be restored, justice for the hunter/fieldsportsman that respects his/her's quarry, and how it is meant to be, as it used to be before the "lower minded people" decided to make some cash out of.

Thankyou for reading

Trevor

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Those 4 fella,s have got their dogs and motors back, and are gonna be prosecuted, apparently it was very early morning[4 am] they had 4 dogs, a dead hare, and an over the limit air rifle in the same car, come on, i ask you :wacko: no one has ever seen me taking rabbits, hares etc, because i,ve always been carefull, even on permission, as my fatha always says "theres a suttle difference, between farting, and riving thi arse lad"i think youre right about the saluki x, remember, if youre gonna bring hares off the land, make sure they have a bullet hole in them, or go back for them, it just takes a bit of caution :whistle:

 

i totally agree with you its about being cleaver out there, its generally only the people that go out in big groups of men walking land out that get caught.

if you are sensible and only go out on your own or with one switched on mate and make sure you dont have hares in hand. who can prove anything.

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