which gun dog ?

[Guest click03]

hi to all

I am considering another gun dog after many years . which with you experience would be a benefit?

i am looking for a well trainable, obedient, trakker, retrever, good alrounder for deer,duck,pigeon etc . Something not too hyper.

 

I was considering a Munsterlander, views please.

[eshielsgundogs 0]

hi to all

I am considering another gun dog after many years . which with you experience would be a benefit?

i am looking for a well trainable, obedient, trakker, retrever, good alrounder for deer,duck,pigeon etc . Something not too hyper.

 

I was considering a Munsterlander, views please.

 

 

Not sure about a musterlander. But I would go for a lab for trainability, and retrieving. Trakker probably a springer.

 

Good Luck mate. What ever you decide.

 

Ian

[Guest ESS]

hi to all

I am considering another gun dog after many years . which with you experience would be a benefit?

i am looking for a well trainable, obedient, trakker, retrever, good alrounder for deer,duck,pigeon etc . Something not too hyper.

 

I was considering a Munsterlander, views please.

 

 

Not sure about a musterlander. But I would go for a lab for trainability, and retrieving. Trakker probably a springer.

 

Good Luck mate. What ever you decide.

 

Ian

 

 

Id go the other path Labrador IMO

 

regards Steve

[druimmuir 1]

from what I have heard munsters can be very slow maturing, not had personal experience, lbs can make biddable stalking dogs, so would go with a lab. I would normally say springer the maid of all work but they are not as calm as stalking dogs, but can;t beat them as hunters

 

Nicola

[kingfisher 0]

would anyone here recomend a lab as a first working dog cos was at game fair when i woman that trains retrevers etc said that they would be a good 1st to start with as springers are a bit to hyper

[Guest ESS]

Depends what you want to with it,,ESS Cockers are my personal choice but have labs to ..If rough shooting I would Rc a Spaniel ,they are hyper but thats why they are nice to have kicking round the kennels always eager to please and a true all rounder..Fearless in cover and good retrieving .there drive sets them apart from a lab,as long as you dont rush a Spaniel they will give you hrs of frustration and bad temper but in the long run they will repay your time and effort Lol

[kingfisher 0]

it,ll be a while yet til i get one so ill have to look into to it abit more. the other consideration is my little boy but you get good and bad tempered dogs in any breed

[kiwi 4]

hi to all

I am considering another gun dog after many years . which with you experience would be a benefit?

i am looking for a well trainable, obedient, trakker, retrever, good alrounder for deer,duck,pigeon etc . Something not too hyper.

 

I was considering a Munsterlander, views please.

munsterlanders are pretty cool dogs, sort of like a german version of an english setter, but able to work large game as well, there are some excellent bloodlines in the uk.

of the work you mention i take it you want a capable retrieving breed, ducks,pigeon and deer,tracking with an obediant and trainable nature, the german wirehair is the breed to look at, it has a more stable nature and a love of water and retrieving similar to a lab and the inbuilt desire to hunt deer, it's nature is alot less hyper than alot of hpr breeds.

springers and labs can do the job but not as natural as the gwp, for deer at least.

[xx-georgia-xx 15]

Hungarian Vizsla lol ours is a good gun dog but she can be abit hyper

 

all the best georgia x

[whippeter94 0]

I would go for a Black Labrador , good temperament and they are very good deer trackers i have herd, also work well with any game.

[november 2]

Hungarian Vizsla lol ours is a good gun dog but she can be abit hyper

 

all the best georgia x

 

vizsla are cowards.

 

as for the aforementioned german wirehaired - good dog, without doubt, but when it comes to trainability, well... you gotta be consequent. and tough sometime.

 

my recommendation, knowing only german breeds, would be:

 

german spaniel aka deutscher wachtelhund. they are a bit calmer than kl. münsterländer and work a lot better on deer and boar. very good allrounder

 

http://www.deutscherwachtelhund.org/What%2...Wachtelhund.htm

[xx-georgia-xx 15]

Hungarian Vizsla lol ours is a good gun dog but she can be abit hyper

 

all the best georgia x

 

vizsla are cowards.

 

as for the aforementioned german wirehaired - good dog, without doubt, but when it comes to trainability, well... you gotta be consequent. and tough sometime.

 

my recommendation, knowing only german breeds, would be:

 

german spaniel aka deutscher wachtelhund. they are a bit calmer than kl. münsterländer and work a lot better on deer and boar. very good allrounder

 

http://www.deutscherwachtelhund.org/What%2...Wachtelhund.htm

 

mate mine isent

[november 2]

Hungarian Vizsla lol ours is a good gun dog but she can be abit hyper

 

all the best georgia x

 

vizsla are cowards.

 

 

 

mate mine isent

 

all viszlas I saw and heard of were cowards. great dogs for birdhunting, no doubt - that's what they were bred for. but when it comes to retrieving a fox that isn't dead yet, you might want to not send the viszla as he will most probably dance around and bark. they retrieve in 99% of the cases the game alive. maybe I got other standards than you, but I would want a dog, that is a bit tougher than a viszla.

 

viszlas also are very sensitive, a loud word can undo 2 weeks of training.

[dickyboy 1]

Be honest with yourself, if you don't have loads of time or experience or rate yourself as confident in dog training and whatever it will throw at you then go for the labrador route, they are more forgiving more eager to please and you'll encounter less problems than with a HPR type dog

 

Also look carefully at what you will spend your time doing

 

Beating - spaniel for drive and exurberence

Retrieving/pigeon/wildfowl etc = lab for steadiness, patience, and strength on large game,

stalking = HPR for scenting and gameness on large game

 

But that is not to say they can't do the other jobs, just what they excel at

 

The HPR breeds are prob the worst out of the three types for lowland beating as they aare thorough but don't really go through heavy cover like a spaniel does(just because of size)

The spaniel breeds won't hunt a line as steadily as an HPR but will find small game and flush better(purely cos they are so busy

 

The labs are a jack of all trade but master retreiver not so good at working through thick brambles on shoots, or trailing and baying a red deer or fox but would pull a wounded roe

 

I have a spaniel for beating and a GSP/greyhound for lamping and retreiving shot foxes.......the spaniel came to a shootday having never done any shooting work but was very obedient and took to it with ease, pleasure to train........The GSP lurcher is great at what i do with him but it was a battle to get him to that point and i still can't trust him daytime with deer!! Very steady and will find foxes and deer after 800-900 yard runs then run them pull them and bay them till i get there(although he's hard on the deer and damages them and soft on the foxes, gets bitten and bays them, he's got it the wrong way round) but he does it well!!!

 

GWP if you've got the work and time, Lab if you want to enjoy it and have an easier ride

[eshielsgundogs 0]

would anyone here recomend a lab as a first working dog cos was at game fair when i woman that trains retrevers etc said that they would be a good 1st to start with as springers are a bit to hyper

 

 

Labs are great for picking up, sitting at a peg and trialling. I'm planning a litter very soon.

 

Ian