Guest markbrick1 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 the person who started this topic must be an idiot challanging hancock dogs saying there is no good ones out there is a joke there are some ive even seen a couple and they are good dogs beleave me,but what do i know Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,231 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 its not so much there working ability, but the fact your lining the pocket of a pupy farmer. ASK YOURELFS THIS QUESTION. WOULD YOU GO TO A PET SHOP AND BUY A LURCHER PUPY................... THINK ABOUT IT , THATS ALL HANCOCK IS, HOW MANY OF YOU LOT WOULD BUY A LURCHER PUP FROM ........ PETS ARE US ??????????????????? Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 its not so much there working ability, but the fact your lining the pocket of a pupy farmer. ASK YOURELFS THIS QUESTION. WOULD YOU GO TO A PET SHOP AND BUY A LURCHER PUPY................... THINK ABOUT IT , THATS ALL HANCOCK IS, HOW MANY OF YOU LOT WOULD BUY A LURCHER PUP FROM ........ PETS ARE US ??????????????????? but if you did not saying do are i would what chance would you get of getting a good one 50/1?????????????how many does hancock breed a yr approx 750 so surely there has to be some good ones out there and for someone to put a i challange any hancock up shows what a dick he is,and for the record iam not supporting hancock are his puppy farm but there are some good ones out there in the right hands mark Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,231 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 MARK READ MY OTHER POST ON THE OTHER HANCOCK THREAD, I AGREE THERE ARE SOME GOOD ONES, OF COURSE. Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Sort the big fanny out Undisputed........I dont think he gets out much so it show him what someone more real deal can do!! Thats plenty from you WILF and im not a big fanny ,Ive got feelings you no Gaz I said dont turn this into a slagging match its nothing to do with inflated egos or macho pish as you call it . Just a genuine challenge to someone with a Hancock dog and like I said in my post I will be the first one to congratulate the man if his dog does the business . IMO good blood is the first and foremost when breeding but the Hancock lads dont seem to think so . The arguements go on and on about this subject on here so the only way I can see to sort this out is to run a dog that IMO is not well bred against one of mine that has generations of true workers in there make up . Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 hancock is a mass breeder i understand that .i didnt choose my dog due to its mother being one nor have i ever been to the farm and never will i have no need to.i have seen some good dogs running from what he sell so i cannot slate the guy.he may go about it in a bad manor he may not.iam happy with what ive got but can state theirs a few edges i want to improve and thats my choice to have a breed out of mine.and to keep my dogs going as i dont want to go down the route of looking up and down the country for dogs.ive got one good working lurcher one good working greyhound.and hopfully them 2 alone will keep me happy with pups and dogs i can work for a longtime. but on the other hand their must be people happy with what he is knocking out to sell so many pups over a year.and i also beleive he has a waiting list.so who are all the people taking them on Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 MARK READ MY OTHER POST ON THE OTHER HANCOCK THREAD, I AGREE THERE ARE SOME GOOD ONES, OF COURSE. i agree tomo but someone to challange any hancock dog is ludicrous,its like saying there is no good out there and we know thats not true mark Quote Link to post
DIGZY 4 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I am not a fan of puppy farmers but someone is obviously buying his dogs and lining his pocket so do you think he is ever going to stop breeding ? ps... Good luck to hancock if he ever joins this forum that man has stick to get Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 (edited) without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one of hancocks thats working well and breed from it and make them a working line agian,would also save him breeding as many?? Edited August 18, 2008 by ooty Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one thats working well and breed from it?? but to challange all hancock dogs and to say theres NO good ones is ludicous Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one thats working well and breed from it?? but to challange all hancock dogs and to say theres NO good ones is ludicous done in good humer i dont see the harm,hows that dog in your aviator bred?,proper like the look of him/her? Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one thats working well and breed from it?? but to challange all hancock dogs and to say theres NO good ones is ludicous done in good humer i dont see the harm,hows that dog in your aviator bred?,proper like the look of him/her? that dog in marks avater looks like yours ooty aint they the same hound ? also to say theirs no working stock in hancock 2 i think you have to look at the breeds collie bred for brains it in any of them,the greyhound if hes taking from track its got the prey drive so surley you pop the 2 together you have a dog that will work,given the correct training.but i do agree these breeder dont seem to get trialed first. but going back in time the lurcher is basically a mongrel a mix and i think hancock is breeding the safest bet the collie and the grey Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one thats working well and breed from it?? but to challange all hancock dogs and to say theres NO good ones is ludicous Why do you say that Mark ?. Im not saying there all not up to scratch but the Hancock threads go on and on and usually the thread get locks so this is the only way I can see to finally put the matter to rest . And I fell very strongly about breeding with goog blood You just never know I might have handy dogs . Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Gavmac,i too was not looking for a slagging match but cmon challenge anybody with a hancock...whats that all about,as i said why not arrange a day out with a hancock owner and see if they live up to the hype you seem to put on them not any hancock owners...i think to challenge is a bit ott if your curious of these dogs capabilities,and anyway whats the challenge....general mouch on all quarry or a coursing dogs forte on good hares which nobody claimed hancocks dogs are top notch at anyway? If you want to persist going down the road of a challenge i think what would be more interesting is a match up with another 3/4 bred collie or 1/2 cross or even 3/8 to get a comparision of equal standing as much as who is breeding the best collie lurchers as afterall these are what hancocks dogs are....have you a collie lurcher then gavmac to have a geniune challenge or have you a wee plan to see the hancock fail....i wonder Hancocks dogs are from good blood and the reason this is true is because he still is as he has done for many a year now produced decent collie lurchers but where you were maybe coming from and i accept this,is the blood is not tested now,cheers Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 without trying to upset anyone this time,i beleave people are sucked into the plummer books and hancocks book that plummer must of wrote him.those books were written to sell the dogs in the early days imo and where from workin stock at the time. the mans 70 now and those workers died 20 years ago.his son in law still takes the odd one out for the odd run is all.these days theres always an add in the countrymans and still people writeing about them so people are still buying them believeing that they are still working dogs from working stock and as the feller ses out of 750 dogs a year his going to have some gooduns,but i still say your better off getting working dogs from working parants,or finding one thats working well and breed from it?? but to challange all hancock dogs and to say theres NO good ones is ludicous done in good humer i dont see the harm,hows that dog in your aviator bred?,proper like the look of him/her? that dog in marks avater looks like yours ooty aint they the same hound ? also to say theirs no working stock in hancock 2 i think you have to look at the breeds collie bred for brains it in any of them,the greyhound if hes taking from track its got the prey drive so surley you pop the 2 together you have a dog that will work,given the correct training.but i do agree these breeder dont seem to get trialed first. but going back in time the lurcher is basically a mongrel a mix and i think hancock is breeding the safest bet the collie and the grey thas why i like it but no its not the same,mines a worker! Quote Link to post
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