HANNCOCK

[fireman 10,934]

My Hancock dog gets slated all the time along with my plummers but i was out with him last night and with a long eared rabbit as well as a rabbit in the bag i don't give a t**s what others say about him i have fun.If you don't like them don't have one,every breeder has produced shit and some good stuff and if you really think bitching about Hancock being a puppy farmer is the right thing then your'll be giving up big mac's,2 for a fiver chickens and all other mass produced animal produce?.Didn't think so!.

[rick12345 181]

Never had a hancock dog but if he's using greyhounds that have coped with the track untill retirement then any 3/4 bred will have thousands of years of excellent breeding behind them. Any collie mixed in needs only to slow the racer enough for the resultant lurcher to become a catcher and so make a decent lamp dog in the right hands. After thousands of years of breeding greyhounds, salukis ect for breeders today to claim the abilities of their lurchers, especialy as most lurchers today are at least 3/4 sighthound, are down to their few years of breeding is madness. To claim more than a minimal input, without at least a large breeding programme over a number of decades, is just standing on the shoulders of those that went before madly waving their own flags.

 

Very well said.

[Guest ooty]

hello mate,wana go out tonight??il have to run cattle dog tho breeze still in season,we can have a match?? :wacko:

Edited August 20, 2008 by ooty

[Guest smashygadge]

hello mate,wana go out tonight??il have to run cattle dog tho breeze still in season,we can have a match?? :wacko:

 

 

you still here looking for a match ooty lol you dont give up mate.get on the road you will be here for dark and lets do it lol

[Guest ooty]

i fort just take the unfit cattle dog that hasnt done much out just to give him a chance,where do you think half the stick he gets for his hancock dog comes from ,make his dog look good,least then someone can say they beat somthing with a hancock,we didnt go in the end though,the cage fighting was on when i got there and we got carried away watching that,

[Crow 1]

This challenge would prove nothing either way because there are too many variables in the mix (not least the competance of the lurcher owner for a start)!

 

Gavmac, what would be a better thing to do is to breed yourself a pup from your own proven stock and purchase a pup from Hancock of the same age. Bring them on, enter them, work them and treat them both EXACTLY the same way and only then will you tell which is the best - out of those particular two anyway

 

Crow

[Guest smashygadge]

This challenge would prove nothing either way because there are too many variables in the mix (not least the competance of the lurcher owner for a start)!

 

Gavmac, what would be a better thing to do is to breed yourself a pup from your own proven stock and purchase a pup from Hancock of the same age. Bring them on, enter them, work them and treat them both EXACTLY the same way and only then will you tell which is the best - out of those particular two anyway

 

Crow

 

 

got to agree their crow .the guy i got mine off had the hancock and had another lurcher both were worked and both had their good and bad .hence why he bred both together to get the breed he and i have today and a better dog alround

[gavmac 0]

This challenge would prove nothing either way because there are too many variables in the mix (not least the competance of the lurcher owner for a start)!

 

Gavmac, what would be a better thing to do is to breed yourself a pup from your own proven stock and purchase a pup from Hancock of the same age. Bring them on, enter them, work them and treat them both EXACTLY the same way and only then will you tell which is the best - out of those particular two anyway

 

Crow

The dog I am running is bred by myself out of proven stock with generations of grafters on both sides infact there are dogs in his make that are often mentioned on this site and thats my point to the arguement .the parents or grandparents of Hancock dogs are not proven in the field season after season .

[sean.t 0]

Ive just read through the last Hancock thread on here but got bored 3/4 of the way through it but what I have noticed is that it is all the Hancock supporter that have the theory that you dont need good blood to breed workers .

Try telling that to all the men who breed the top horses ,cattle ,sheep ,digging terriers ,racing greyhound ,coursing dogs,pigeons ,chickens that theyve been doing it wrong for years and all this" its what you put into a dog it doesnt matter about the breeding ",if a dog doesnt have it it doesnt matter what time and effort you put into it ,you can get the best out of it but like someone has already said you cant polish a turd.

Talk is cheap so the only way I can see to finally put this matter to rest is .

I challenge anyone with there Hancock tyke to a wee comp I'm not on about agility or brains just an out an out hunting comp agianst any one of my well breed lurchers .

Im not too far away from you undisputed and you seem to be a Hancock supporter so its a good oppertunity for you to prove what his dogs can do .

Dont turn this into a slagging match and if someone rises to the challenge and there Hancock dog is victorious I will obviously be the first one to shake there hand .

ANYONE UP FOR IT PM ME

THE DOG MUST OF CAME FROM HANCOCKS KENNELS

i agree if a dog doesnt have it , it doesnt have it and theres nothing anyone can do about than a lurcher needs brains and balls ut if it comes from shite it wont be much the apple doesnt fall to ar from the tree

and if i was in england scotland or wales i wouldnt waste my time with lurchers if not gonny hunt what u want anyway you only hunt rabbits to get your dogs fit.

[Guest smashygadge]

Ive just read through the last Hancock thread on here but got bored 3/4 of the way through it but what I have noticed is that it is all the Hancock supporter that have the theory that you dont need good blood to breed workers .

Try telling that to all the men who breed the top horses ,cattle ,sheep ,digging terriers ,racing greyhound ,coursing dogs,pigeons ,chickens that theyve been doing it wrong for years and all this" its what you put into a dog it doesnt matter about the breeding ",if a dog doesnt have it it doesnt matter what time and effort you put into it ,you can get the best out of it but like someone has already said you cant polish a turd.

Talk is cheap so the only way I can see to finally put this matter to rest is .

I challenge anyone with there Hancock tyke to a wee comp I'm not on about agility or brains just an out an out hunting comp agianst any one of my well breed lurchers .

Im not too far away from you undisputed and you seem to be a Hancock supporter so its a good oppertunity for you to prove what his dogs can do .

Dont turn this into a slagging match and if someone rises to the challenge and there Hancock dog is victorious I will obviously be the first one to shake there hand .

ANYONE UP FOR IT PM ME

THE DOG MUST OF CAME FROM HANCOCKS KENNELS

i agree if a dog doesnt have it , it doesnt have it and theres nothing anyone can do about than a lurcher needs brains and balls ut if it comes from shite it wont be much the apple doesnt fall to ar from the tree

and if i was in england scotland or wales i wouldnt waste my time with lurchers if not gonny hunt what u want anyway you only hunt rabbits to get your dogs fit.

 

 

but has anyone mentioned these dogs dont take all .most that stand by their hancock dogs are happy their dogs are taking most quarry not just rabbit most dogs can take a rabbit my ped stafs had his fare share in the past and he is only 17tts and a fat fecker at that

[SKA 18]

i am not in to all this slagging off peoples dogs each to the own aslong as your happy with your own dont worry about other peoples !! i did go down to hancocks 3yrs ago however with the intenion of buying a three quater cross none were ready at the time but he had some older dogs about six off them not one off them would come out of the corner of pen all were shit scarerd of me the wife and the kids totally unsocialised i did not go back down for a pup i bought bull grey collie grey from cmw instead having said that i would still considered getting a hancock pup if i could get it no older than eight weeks old there is not many that pups about were you can say its genuiene cross atleast with hancock your 100 percent sure of what you are getting

[cumbye 36]

i have a hancock dog i run on all quarry and i will take up your challenge anytime you want mate im not into all this bollox my dog is better then yours etc but i know what my dog does and can show you for your self if you dont belive it.

 

where abouts you from????

 

w.h

good on you show him,

Mark why don"t you let your mate with "sally" know about this challenge,ive seen that dog run many a time and its a good un,theres also a few run on the levells that are good stock...I"m not biggin mr hancock up but let the mutts speak for themselfs